Mafia 93 - A Roccisi Summer - Over!

[Seraphim]

V/LA from today until Friday.

[ekiM]

With six players left I think the right move is to not lynch today. If we do that, we shouldn't discuss anything else to avoid informing the scum. Also if we finish today quickly we can bank some time for tomorrow.

Vote: No Lynch

[HowardRoark]

vote ekiM

I believe that lynching ekiM is the way to go for today.

The no lynch option increases our odds of winning by 10% if we are seeking one scum; the increase is 7% if we are looking for two scum. Both of those statistics are based upon random lynches.

Kison can investigate Seraphim as he is NK immune and we won't have the same situation as we did with last nights actions crossing.

Thoughts?

[populartajo]

vote ekiM

I believe that lynching ekiM is the way to go for today.

The no lynch option increases our odds of winning by 10% if we are seeking one scum; the increase is 7% if we are looking for two scum. Both of those statistics are based upon random lynches.

Kison can investigate Seraphim as he is NK immune and we won't have the same situation as we did with last nights actions crossing.

Thoughts?

Er, why are you voting for an option that doesnt increas our odss?

[populartajo]

Vote: no lynch.

[HowardRoark]

The odds are based on random lynches which makes them a bit less useful. Do you understand that a 7-10% increase is not that significant? This game cannot be played by straight odds alone. Do you realize that random lynches in the F11 setup with no doctors results in a 70% scum win chance? It's about play as well as odds.

[TDC]

Vote Count

No Lynch (3): Seraphim, ekiM, populartajo
ekiM (2): charter, HowardRoark

Not Voting (1): Kison

[ekiM]

Why are you bringing up odds then dismissing them as irrelevant?

[ekiM]

Kison, can you hammer No Lynch, please? Unless you have some compelling reason not to.

[charter]

Kison, can you hammer No Lynch, please? Unless you have some compelling reason not to.

This sounds like he's worried he'll get lynched. I think he's trying to wiggle his way out of this.

[ekiM]

The sooner we finish today the more time we bank for tomorrow. Kison already supported NL so unless he's changed his mind he should hammer it ASAP.

The only people not supporting NL were you and HowardRoark and neither one of you gave a reason.

[TDC]

Prodding Kison

[HowardRoark]

After an isolation read of ekiM and charter . . .

unvote
vote charter

iso1: votes OGB for his guess the alt game
iso 2: "I think Caboose, Seraphim, and OGB are all scumbuddies." no reasons
iso 3: "Add Mufasa to that triangle, and I get you a scum quartet." no reasons
iso 5: votes Mufassa still no reasons
iso 6: "Caboose is scum too by the way." no reasons
iso 8: "Prolly copied from the front page. Good catch. Lynch Mufasa, then lynch Caboose." uses another's reasons
iso 9: "Not only did he claim in his not first post of the day, but his claim has changed twice since he made it." finally a bit of his own reasoning
"I'm actually seeing Seraphim/Caboose as marginally scummier, but that's just splitting hairs at this point." no reasoning
"Keeping my vote on whichever of Seraphim and Mufasa currently has the most votes. Seraphim because he is definately scum, and Mufasa because if kept alive he will become a trainwreck and an unacceptable detriment to the town." no reason for Seraphim
iso 10: to Seraphim, "You'll get your case later when it's your turn to be lynched."
also a rehash of his lynch Mufassa campaign
iso 17: "Actually, inHim moves straight on up to full fledged scumbag. Has switched his vote in every single post, and I believe it was always for a current voteleader or someone under a lot of scrutiny. He has also contradicted himself pretty glaringly a few times that I see. I'll be pointing them out in a little bit." the best case he's brought forth (though the contradictions part was never explained) and no vote
iso 18: "271- Starbuck jumps off Mufasa after the wagon is getting some attention and stalling. Scummy post. Just jumps off, doesn't do anything else."
"Starbuck's response in 283 to legitimate points is incredibly scummy."
iso 19: "Starbuck is currently my second choice for a vote, but I'm not giving up hope just yet." and continues Mufassa campaign
iso 20: "inHim has cemented his position of scumbag with his latest post." yet still no vote
iso 21: throws a couple of scum team members ideas out there and switches to OGB
iso 24: follows roflcopter by going after Axelrod
iso 26: "I don't see what Seraphim has done as scummy as opposed to just bad." could this change be because a NK attempt on him failed?
iso 29: thanks whoever killed Mufassa
votes darkdude "for his last ditch attempt to save alvinz"
"Should rofl's mason buddy claim? I think he should." = role fishing
iso 30-32: provides reasons for mason partner to claim
iso 35: votes Seraphim for asking Caboose who he was going to investigate
is 36: votes darkdude, "darkdude is still obviously scum."
"Lynching Seraphim at the first chance after this I get though."

Currently thinking ekim or tajo is scum. Tajo's first read of everyone had both ThAd and inHim as prob town. For whatever reason, was devoid in lynching Alvinz.

ekim, his darkdude vote, 484, I feel like that was a giant pile of trying to fit in. He never mentioned inHim. He had this wierd addition to my back and forth with ThAd day one.

vote ekim

Think he's more likely to be scum.

iso 44: "X just jumped up in scumminess." no reason
iso 46: votes populartajo "720's- tajo claiming he's not suspicious of Caboose but leaving his vote on there. Also, he's doing more pointless setup speculation rather than giving us who he is suspicious of now. tajo is scum."

charter and I are mason buddies, though I cannot vouch for his towniness. Only mine.

Just thought I'd throw that out there, if anyone cares.

Name of the masonry.

Why do you think he is not town?

Also, charter please confirm, deny.

This guy is scum.

no reason
iso 52: "If someone else moves on to Spyrex, I could do a Spyrex lynch over a tajo lynch, but I'm not going to unvote yet, as that would help a Lowell lynch, which I'm 100% against." SpereX for parroting populartajo on not killing Caboose
iso 54: "It's either tajo or Spyrex or both. We need to be lynching them."
iso 55: restates case on populartajo
iso 59: defending Lowell as town
"I'm vanilla, except for being a neighbor with Lowell." a question, does your neighborhood have any abilities?
iso 63: votes SpyreX for setting up a chain lynch on him if Lowell flips town
iso 72: votes ekiM "Well, a vanilla doesn't mean anything, so process of elimination"
iso 73: "Don't like these Lowell votes one bit. He's town, I'm telling you guys."
iso 75: votes ekiM "Pretty much the only person left since I don't think Lowell is scum."

[charter]

Thanks for a bunch of my quotes, but you gave "no reasons" for me being scum.

[charter]

No, our neighborhood doesn't have any abilities, that is what vanilla means.

[Kison]

The odds are based on random lynches which makes them a bit less useful. Do you understand that a 7-10% increase is not that significant? This game cannot be played by straight odds alone. Do you realize that random lynches in the F11 setup with no doctors results in a 70% scum win chance? It's about play as well as odds.

Do you think Seraphim is scum? Do you think my investigations are inaccurate? If the answer to both of those questions is no, then there is absolutely no reason you shouldn't want a no lynch today, because it will guarantee the game ends with the unconfirmed players either lynched or investigated, with the exception of Seraphim.

Vote: No Lynch

Sorry for the delay.

[TDC]

Final Vote Count of Day 6

No Lynch (4): Seraphim, ekiM, populartajo, Kison
ekiM (1): charter
charter (1): HowardRoark

Status

It is now Night 6.
Time saved for tomorrow will be calculated from what the actual deadline would've been.
Considering I'll be leaving on Sunday, this Night will be slightly shorter than normal. Hope that's okay with everyone.
Deadline: Sunday, July 2nd, 01:00 CEST (GMT+2)
That's 60 hours from now.

[TDC]

A herd of alpacas runs through the town. That can only mean one thing.
What?
Alpacas don't live in herds?

Death: populartajo

populartajo, Deputy, Town:

• Active Abilities:
  • Cop:
    • Backup
• Passive Abilities:
  • none
• Groups:
  • none
• Victory Condition: You win when all anti-town forces are eliminated.

Status

It is now Day 7.
As announced previously, I'll be V/LA starting pretty much now.
In the mean time hohum is going to look over this game. He has access to all game-relevant information.
Deadline: Saturday, August 15th 12:00 CEST (GMT+2)
3 to lynch

[Seraphim]

Fantastic. About time they started killing the coppers.

As expected, there are now five of us.

Seraphim
ekiM
Howard Roark
Kison
charter

Among this list, HR is still confirmed...and I am very close to being confirmed town or at least highly unlikely scum. Kison, who did you investigate last night? What was that result? It will most definitely determine today's lynch.

[Kison]

I attempted to investigate ekiM, and it failed.

If someone received Korts' amnesiac watcher ability and used it on me, now would be the proper time to claim the results.

[Seraphim]

Vote: Kison

Caught between a rock and a hard place are we?

[charter]

Vote: Kison

Caught between a rock and a hard place are we?

This is what I'm thinking.

[Kison]

Really, folks, it's not unreasonable. After repeated prodding,

nobody

claimed to have received an ability from Korts, which only suggests he was blocked instead of me the night before last, and unless you think I am scum with the abilities of blocking, killing,

and

investigating, I can't see how I could be to blame for the lack of its delivery.

[charter]

Really, folks, it's not unreasonable. After repeated prodding,

nobody

claimed to have received an ability from Korts, which only suggests he was blocked instead of me the night before last, and unless you think I am scum with the abilities of blocking, killing,

and

investigating, I can't see how I could be to blame for the lack of its delivery.

Well, what doesn't make sense to me is why this is the first we are hearing of there being a roleblocker. Why did they let you investigate all these other nights, but now all of a sudden decide to block you? I don't think there's a roleblocker at all. With all the claims we've had, NONE of those people ever got blocked? I think not.

Plus, if you're scum, then I don't see where you have any roleblocking. This argument is a really poor one, coupled with how this is 100% different how you played in the endgame of that deep south game, and I am going with a

vote Kison

[Kison]

How am I playing any differently than the Deep South game? I don't know that I am.

Anyways, I obviously don't have any good explanation for why I haven't been blocked until now, but I can only guess that this mislynch was a part of it. Had I been blocked any earlier I doubt there would be this much of a reaction to such a claim because the timing wouldn't be as 'convenient', but this is obviously only something that makes sense from my perspective. The only thing I can think of to make that evident is the fact that I have made my order of suspicions clear ever since I entered the game, and both ekiM and Charter were not very high on my list, and Seraphim was way down at the bottom.

I can't really prove the roleblocking beyond what I have said already. Unless someone fesses up about having received an ability from Korts, then something happened to prevent that from going out. He said he forgot to submit the action the night before, and I doubt he would have fogotten a second time. Seriously, before you guys jump the gun on this, think that through. This will be a town lynch, and we'll only one more fuckup after this.