Newbie 814(over!)

[Sudai]

Sundai:
Sometimes. I look at some theme mafias just for the heck of it. Why did you ask?

I was just curious.

Is this your first game of mafia? Also, about how many have you watched? Just trying to get to know people since I missed the early game. :]

Atma, you were actually one of the people I wanted to hear from, but for some reason I didn't include you in the list. Thanks for giving it. I'm still mostly against a no lynch and when I brought it up, it was before my suspicions of Itvac had been increased even more by his lurking after we pressured him. I'm not still suggesting it, was merely throwing it out there as an option.

[Manzcar]

@ Lego my questions earlier that you still have not answered.

Lego your votes have seemed to jump around. Your current vote is on Itacv2 can you give me your reasons why your vote is on him?

Also can you explain why your voted Itacv2 and then FoS'd him?

Besides Itacv2 who would you consider to be your second suspect? And what are the reasons why you suspect them?

[Manzcar]

Sam wrote

You are scummy. I will vote you once GOTOR posts something or he gets replaced.

Sam wrote

I think I know both of the mafia. I'm going to vote itacv2 now that he's started lurking after the pressure started building up on him. Also he's been just really scummy the entire game. I'd prefer not to reveal my other suspect at this point, I'll do it soon.

Anyways itacv2 you are now at L-1. What do you have to say for yourself? Roleclaim or die.

I find your reasoning for voting itacvw quite strange Sam. It is strange because you have no reasoning. You have decided itacv2 is scum but you give no backing to your belief.

What are your reasons for believing him to be scum?

to be honest I find your actions in this entire game very strange.

You seem to be active lurking.
You are distracting people from trying to actively scum search by wanting them to build a case on you.
You are voting people and stating they are scum without giving reasons.
You make grande statements that you know who the scum are but then want to keep the info to yourself.

I find all this very noob like, but you are no noob at all. So it then begins to look like scum motives to me.

FoS Sam

[Manzcar]

Sam I didn't see you answer this question please do so now.

Sam why did you clear Vaya as scum in your iso post 5?

[legomaniac1128]

Manzcar, we'll go in the order in which you asked them:g

Lego your votes have seemed to jump around. Your current vote is on Itacv2 can you give me your reasons why your vote is on him?

It was simply joke voting, nothing more, nothing less. This is my first game after all. I voted on itacv2 for self defence and how down right scummy his moves were.

Also can you explain why your voted Itacv2 and then FoS'd him?

If my vote went no where, at least there was a FoS on him.

Besides Itacv2 who would you consider to be your second suspect? And what are the reasons why you suspect them?

I have multiple ideas whom it might be, so I'm not positive who it is, but sam seems suspicious, but I wouldn't say scummy. At least, not yet.

[Manzcar]

Lego what about his moves did you find down right scummy?

[legomaniac1128]

Sudai:
I've watched a few, I love how the most random things occur sometimes, like weird references and other shenanigans. Also, I'd like to moderate a few games, and have plans on doing some video game themed ones. I'd like to do a Sonic the Hedgehog themed mafia, see how it plays out. Yeah, this is my first game of mafia. Enough about me, lets get back to the scum hunt!

[Sudai]

One last aside, if you do that Sonic Mafia game, I so want dibs on a spot. :x I'll make you tell me the second sign ups go up for it. XD

Lego, if you could get us your reasoning for feeling that Itacv is scummy before you go, I'd appreciate that too. Just so we can have all of your thoughts for the last two real days of our day. :]

[legomaniac1128]

Of course!! Just pm me after the game cause' I want to do it soon and I'll probably forget who you are!! It'll basically be a collaboration of a lot of characters in a big mafia game. ( you'll see Sally. Scratch and Grounder, Antoine, Bunny, Cream, and all your majors.)

As for itacv2, every things already been said about him. He's been lurking as of lately, and that threat was extremely scummy. Any ways, I'll be off. If anyone has any last questions, ask now, before it's too late.

[legomaniac1128]

Manzacar:
I believe Vaya said it best:
Vaya said:

As for itvac2, there are a lot of things he's done that makes him seem scummy. With lego's odd behavior, if he's not scum, he is a perfect scum target. When itvac2 first voted for lego, he claimed it was because he didn't want 'an easy manipulated around when it come to identify mafia', but then he suddenly thinks he's scummy.

Then the case he built up had plenty of bad reasoning. He claims lego going away for a bit is scummy, that him not accusing a certain person is a sign of them being scumbuddies(this early in the game, when plenty of people have yet to accuse each other), and criticizes him for a vote from the RVS not having reason behind it.

Once he was accused of being scummy, instead of attempting to refute it, he just gets upset and accuses samhorn of being scum for seemingly no good reason. I believe he does this because he knows that lego isn't really scum and that he can't defend his false case against him.


My opinion is exactly the same as his.

[Manzcar]

Lego that is interesting.

Do you think parroting others could be a scum tell?
Do you think avoiding to make case could be a scum tell?
Do you think bandwagoning and piling on could be a scum tell?

[Sudai]

Despite this all being true, Manzcar, you have to realize that this is a newbie game and Lego's proven himself to be fairly newbie-ish atm. I compiled a list earlier of the things his comments would infer whether he be a newbie or a scum pretending to be newbie. Sadly, I'm at my friend's house right now so I don't have access to it. I will some time tonight, however so I can get it up before the end of D1 no problems. Sadly Lego won't be around to counter point probably. ><

[Sudai]

Forgot to mention, that said I'm leaning more towards scummy than newbie right now. Just like before, I want everyone to see all options.

[legomaniac1128]

Manzacar:
1.Sometimes, however Vaya explained it better and I simply would be saying the same reasons.
2. Definitely.
3. No not really in the beginning of the game, but later on, yes.

This is interesting as itacv2 has disappeared. Where is he? Is he lurking? There are still questions he needs to answer.

[Sudai]

I'm tempted to just hammer him since we're moving so slow on the last bit of D1. I want to milk the time so bad though.

[legomaniac1128]

Who Sundai? itacv2? I'm not saying anything about you is scummy,
(At least not yet! ) but I would like to know.

[Manzcar]

Dont hammer there are a lot of questions still out there that haven't been answered.

[Vaya]

We should hurry up and hammer itacv2. We only have a day left until deadline. I want a claim, but we shouldn't let time run out waiting for it. Manzcar your questions don't really relate much to itacv2's lynch, there's no reason you can't ask them Day 2.

[Manzcar]

I was actually talking about the questions to itacv2. If itacv2 doesn't want to defend himself in the next couple of days then to me that is scummy.

[legomaniac1128]

LAST CALL:
Does anyone have any questions that involve me before I go to sleep, if so, ask NOW!!!

[legomaniac1128]

Alright, I'll see you all on day two. Night all.

[atma]

Alright, I'll see you all on day two. Night all.

thanks for giving us all of 12 minutes to check this topic. see ya scum.

[Manzcar]

Mod the deadline is 8/2 just to clarify does the hammer have to fall by a specifc time on 8/2 . With different time zones I am never quite sure. Thanks

[sam.samhorn]

I find your reasoning for voting itacvw quite strange Sam. It is strange because you have no reasoning. You have decided itacv2 is scum but you give no backing to your belief.

What are your reasons for believing him to be scum?

I thought it was obvious why he's mafia. I'll have why I think he's mafia coming up later today, I don't have time right now.

You seem to be active lurking.
You are distracting people from trying to actively scum search by wanting them to build a case on you.

I only did this when discussion stalled in order to get discussion going.

You are voting people and stating they are scum without giving reasons.
You make grande statements that you know who the scum are but then want to keep the info to yourself.

I will also reveal my reasoning for why I think I know the other mafia player too in my next post. Also, I make grand statements first and vote in every single game I play before spewing content...it's just the way I tend to operate.[/quote]

[sam.samhorn]

I'm going to be V/LA this weekend until Monday the 3rd.