Mini 808 - Rabbit Doubt Mafia: Over!

[Mastin]

Just in case.
Guy-who-loses-bets (Obvious) -- KMD.
Guy-who-used-to-make-massive-posts (Hopefully also obvious) -- Me, Mastin.
Guy-who-sees-things (Look at the name) -- Looker.
Ninja-guy-who-I-know (Hopefully he'll confirm this himself) -- Battousai.
Dr.House Guy (Hopefully someone will watch that program and know this guy's first name, which is the username. He replaced Arctic-Bird-Guy.) -- ?/Penguin.

you REALLY are easy manipulated

what if I said now I have a vote restriction. What if I don't vote for the rest of the game, and start lurking. What if my replacer doesn't vote eighter, because I didn't do that too. Would you believe I have a vote Restriction?

The story matches up, though.

btw, what is your style?

This explains it well,
Although that's not all.
Two other threads are the
"RVS thread"
And the "Fun in Mafia" thread---
Both of which contain major elements of my normal playstyle. (Too lazy to find the links.)

I've decided to slowly phase it out gradually. Do other things, more productive, more effective.
Works.

Also,

Mastin moves into room three

.
Going to other rooms is pointless.

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Really, really disliking Gregory by now.

[molestargazer]

Dr. House Guy

The others are correct.

[Mastin]

Ah.

[molestargazer]

Note to self:

I've FoSed a dead guy. Damn. Well, I can see why he got lynched. I'll avoid commenting on him in future, then.

[Mastin]

Lol. Mafia generally don't FoS dead people. (Their response would be "XX was scummy, deserved the lynch" and whatnot.)
What more do ya need for proof that guy's town?

[Gregory]

^ Is that style question directed at me or the guy you quoted?

to mastin

Do you believe my post restriction or not?

no, I didn't and I've still got no reason to do. Last time I was on 67, you've posted 3 times and nothing has changed.

Batoussai, why did you ask him? Maybe he would have read over the thing and did post a name, or just didn't the whole game. That would have told us a lot about the restriction. By asking him, he could not forget the point.

[molestargazer]

@Dr.House Guy

- Please explain how faking a post restriction would benefit scum ASIDE from being an excuse to post less, which I am clearly not doing.

I assure that if Ninja-Guy had not asked, the post restriction would still apply. I understand that isn't going to do much to convince you, but frankly, I really can't see why you think it's fake and/or a sign of scumminess.

[Battousai]

^ Is that style question directed at me or the guy you quoted?

to mastin

Do you believe my post restriction or not?

no, I didn't and I've still got no reason to do. Last time I was on 67, you've posted 3 times and nothing has changed.

Batousai, why did you ask him? Maybe he would have read over the thing and did post a name, or just didn't the whole game. That would have told us a lot about the restriction. By asking him, he could not forget the point.

I've played with mole before. If he fakes the restriction to lurk, I would know. Plus it gives him a chance to explain it.


Mastin- ... that is just crap. He is town because scum wouldn't get a post restriction that says they can't say names? BS. If you look back, you can clearly tell that his predecessor was the first person in the dark room. So, it is quite easily could be a room effect and whoever opened the door got it. So, next time you want to call someone town, make sure the case is correct.

[Mastin]

I don't have to have good reasoning. I'm Mastin. As long as I give it, it's fine. (Faulty Logic is not a scum tell. There's a thread about this.)

And there's gut as well on Stargazer.

[Battousai]

Faulty logic is a scum tell, depending on the repercussion of said logic. How could you have gut on someone who made only a couple of posts?

[Iecerint]

MSG, whether your restriction is real or not, its affect on your play is immaterial. Either it's real and was not intended for a specific alignment, or it is not real and was intended to justify minimal contributions from scum.

I agree with Gregory that Batt should not have pointed out the post restriction to MSG.

[Mastin]

I'm that good, Bat.
Also, predecessor seemed town.

[Battousai]

Based on what? His inactivity? His lack of scumhunting? His short posts?

[PhilyEc]

Faulty logic is a scum tell, depending on the repercussion of said logic. How could you have gut on someone who made only a couple of posts?

Someone reaching to make a point that if they attempted to make honestly, they'd look wrong. Basically, you can't tell the difference from a liar and a fool, still this is just like any other scumtell.

[PhilyEc]

Mastin, don't tell other players that your predecessor seemed town, thats for them to decide.

Batt, why are you so against Mastin thinking Mole is protown for his actions? Do you get null-tells from Mole?

[Mastin]

Not my predecessor.
Mole's.

Gut read, previous meta experience (ongoing game. KMD should know which).

[ZazieR]

1) Kmd4390 (2) - Mastin, Molestargazer

3) Mastin (1) - Iecerint
4) don_johnson (1) - Kmd4390
5) Looker
6) Iecerint
7) Molestargazer (2) - Battousai, Don_johnson
9) Tenchi
10) PhilyEc
11) Battousai
12) Gregory (1) - Looker

Not voting (3) - Tenchi, PhilyEc, Gregory

With 10 players alive, you''ll need 6 votes to lynch.
Green indicates closest to lynch.

Room 1: Male Restroom
Room 2: Female Restroom
Room 3: Library - Mastin
Room 4: Hospital Room

Room 5: ???

Room 6: Dark Room - Iecerint
Room 7: Storage Room - Don_johnson
Room 8: Great Hall
Room 9: Bedroom
Room 10: Empty Room

Room 11: ???

Room 12: Crime Scene Room
Room 13: Exit Room

Room 14: ???
Room 15: ???
Room 16: ???

Black means that that the door is open.
Red means that the door is closed.
Room 14 is in darkred, as it's its door in a different room, which got locked by Iecerint. So nobody, except for Iecerint (who can't use his barcode on it) can get to this door. So nobody can open this door until Iecrint unlocks his door.
Then there's purple. Room 7 also had an extra door in it. This one was opened by Mykonian. As Mykonian didn't leave this room when PhilyEc closed Room 7 and as Mykonian's door isn't locked, both Mykonian and PhilyEc can still move between these two rooms.

Corridor - Kmd4390, Looker, Molestargazer, Tenchi, PhilyEc, Battousai, Gregory

NOTE: When you open a room, you''ll automatically enter it.

[Iecerint]

Iecerint moves to Room 1
Iecerint moves to Corridor
Iecerint moves to Room 2
Iecerint moves to Corridor
Iecerint moves to Room 4
Iecerint moves to Corridor
Iecerint moves to Room 6
Iecerint moves to Corridor
Iecerint moves to Room 7
Iecerint moves to Corridor
Iecerint moves to Room 8
Iecerint moves to Corridor
Iecerint moves to Room 9
Iecerint moves to Corridor
Iecerint moves to Room 10
Iecerint moves to Corridor
Iecerint moves to Room 12
Iecerint moves to Corridor
Iecerint moves to Room 13
Iecerint moves to Corridor
Iecerint moves to Room 3

[molestargazer]

moves into room three.
Going to other rooms is pointless.

Could you please explain why? Still a bit curious about this whole room thing.

Still waiting on a response from Dr.House-Guy Re: this post. But it hasn't been that long.

Think I'll do a tad more catching up shortly.

[Battousai]

Batt, why are you so against Mastin thinking Mole is protown for his actions? Do you get null-tells from Mole?

My read on mafiamann/molestargazer is irrelevant to these questions. Mastin seemed to blurb out mole is town for no reason, so I'm trying to figure out why.

Not my predecessor.
Mole's.

Gut read, previous meta experience (ongoing game. KMD should know which).

So basically, no reason that you can share with me...

FoS: Mastin

Mole - FomS is the finger of minor suspicion. Basically they did something a little bit scummy, but I'm not sure enough to give it the full FoS.

[molestargazer]

I really don't see how the Double-vote thing Re.Dead-Guy-Who-I-FoSed is really relevant enough to prevent a case or even spend time discussing over. Yes, he made 2 votes in a post (Or I'm assuming that's what happened), and was perhaps careless in such post - but I don't see how it can be interpreted as a scumtell.
I will agree with Dublin-guy that his reaction to the resulting pressure was scummy, though.
Afraid there's not much else relevant to comment on regarding alive players that I've spotted up to midway through P19. So, onwards.

I'm not I like Dr.House-Guy's Post 472.
- Fails to pick up on Ninja-Guy's joke regarding the smelly restroom, and goes on to say that a room Ninja-guy was in was "suspicious". How can a room be suspicious?
- The next 2 points seem quite wishy-washy. "NO, what if..." to "I see, OK". And then "Agree", but "dublin-guy should calm down".
He doesn't seem to be taking a solid position on really anyone here.

Avatar-bet-loser makes a good point about Glasses-guy's IIoA catch up post. Whether it's worth anything, I don't know.
Although I don't like Avatar-bet-guy's amazing defensiveness about why he won't open his door around Page 22, and just says he doesn't see a reason.

@Avatar-Bet-Guy

- What's with that? Why didn't you unlock your door for Ninja-guy for so long, and just responded with jokes? Is there a reason you didn't unlock it for so long?

Also don't like Dr.House-guy's Post 563.
- "He's probably wrong, but why does that make him scum?". This is a blatant defence of avatar-bet-guy with no real reasoning behind it. Making up slips to try and get pro-town people lynched is something scum do.
- More wishy-washiness regarding Gut and the use of Meta.

k, Gregory is town.

...

Now reached the end of P23. So from what I've seen up 'til here,

Vote: Dr.House-Guy

- I don't like your wishy-washiness.
- I don't like his gunning at Ninja-guy for moving to a "suspicious" room.
- Blatant buddying with Avatar-bet-guy.

This vote is also pending his response to my post restriction question, and of course pending his response to these reasons for voting.

@Ninja-Guy

- Understood, thanks.

[Gregory]

guys, will answer tomorrow

brother's bd

[Kmd4390]

Molest of all people wants to know why I wouldn't let anyone join me in the restroom. That's funny because of his username.

[Battousai]

His name is mole- stargazer. Get it right or pay the price

Yet you didn't answer his question. Avoidance again?

[Kmd4390]

I shorten usernames. So if I leave the end off, it's Molest.