The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Lamont_Cranston]

i.e. I mean lynching her bc she really isn't a PR anymore right?

[ZazieR]

Look, were being mod-mind-screwed. The claims aren't going to make sense. Amished's is proven & Stepho-Naomi's are linked.

Something just occurred to me. Naomi is no longer a PR right? I mean she said she has no other powers than being non-NK right?

So if she can prove Stepho's claim that would be like awesome right?

Is there anything I'm missing here? (I don't care about all this role PM crap and obscure rule interpretation crap)

You are right about Naomi. Which is why I've been saying that in case Stepho is telling the truth, we should lynch naomi instead of Stepho after he has investigated Setael. Therefore, Naomi should be today's lynch.

[populartajo]

Look, were being mod-mind-screwed. The claims aren't going to make sense. Amished's is proven & Stepho-Naomi's are linked.

Something just occurred to me. Naomi is no longer a PR right? I mean she said she has no other powers than being non-NK right?

So if she can prove Stepho's claim that would be like awesome right?

Is there anything I'm missing here? (I don't care about all this role PM crap and obscure rule interpretation crap)

You are right about Naomi. Which is why I've been saying that in case Stepho is telling the truth, we should lynch naomi instead of Stepho after he has investigated Setael. Therefore, Naomi should be today's lynch.

I think I like this plan.

Unvote Vote : Naomi.

[Lamont_Cranston]

I'm in.

Unvote, Vote Naomi

[dramonic]

I'm all for it

unvote, Vote Naomi

[Stephoscope]

Oh well. She's Trilby, I tell ya, but this should allow us to be more productive and save having to get a replacement.

Unvote
Vote: Naomi

[Lamont_Cranston]

lol I was just thinking the same thing too.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Mod votecount please.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Vote Count

Naomi_Saotome: 5 (populartajo, Zazier, Lamont_Cranston, dramonic, Stephoscope)
ZazieR: 2 (Amished, Setael)
Setael: 1 (Devestation)

Naomi has failed to pick up her prod, and will be replaced. Sironigous has failed to re-appear for 72 hours after his V/LA, and will be replaced, as he has not been on the site since the 4th.

[ZazieR]

Vote Count

Naomi_Saotome: 4 (populartajo, Lamont_Cranston, dramonic, Stephoscope)
ZazieR: 2 (Amished, Setael)
Naomi_Saotome: 1 (ZazieR)
Setael: 1 (Devestation)

Naomi has failed to pick up her prod, and will be replaced. Sironigous has failed to re-appear for 72 hours after his V/LA, and will be replaced, as he has not been on the site since the 4th.

Mod - There is only one Naomi >.< And what about Rocka?

[Knight of Cydonia]

I prodded him later than Naomi, he still has until about 2am GMT.

[populartajo]

Vote Count

Naomi_Saotome: 4 (populartajo, Lamont_Cranston, dramonic, Stephoscope)
ZazieR: 2 (Amished, Setael)
Naomi_Saotome: 1 (ZazieR)
Setael: 1 (Devestation)

Naomi has failed to pick up her prod, and will be replaced. Sironigous has failed to re-appear for 72 hours after his V/LA, and will be replaced, as he has not been on the site since the 4th.

Mod - There is only one Naomi >.< And what about Rocka?

Zazie, are you voting Naomi?

[zwetschenwasser]

steph is putting too much emphasis on clearing setael by his own investigation and nothing about actual towniness, and he's assuming that we're all forced to believe him.

I don't like this comment at all. I think this makes a stronger case that Set is scum & you too. How about that?

Um... I see no reasoning.

[zwetschenwasser]

@Everyone

Please state if you agree or not that the following rules show that there are only Innocents:

3. Innocents win if they destroy all Evil characters. The Evil characters win when they have a majority, and are deemed powerful enough to over-power any and all remaining factions.

The win cons are stated here. The mod has chosen to word it that Innocents win if they destroy all Evil characters. If there are town powerroles, then why would he have used Innocents and not Town or something like that?

13. There will be crazy shit, descriptions of unpleasant actions, and things you may well not understand at all in this game. It is not intended to be particularly fair, nice, or easy for the town/innocents. You may be required to actually think, instead of playing follow the *insert role/s here* Get used to it.

This rule says 'town/innocents'. To me, this seems that the town=innocents.


So if you disagree, say no. If you agree, say yes.
Only the claimed powerroles must state their reasons for their answers. After that, I want to hear it from the other players.

:-0

Unvote; Vote: Amished

[zwetschenwasser]

Actually, I'm seeing Amished more of a neutral alignment from the power he claims to have. Like one of tar's dreaming gods.

[zwetschenwasser]

Can innocent also be an overarching theme for all pro-town (like, well, pro-town in a normal mafia game)? Yes. You know why I ask that? It's because I win when threats to the

humans

have been destroyed. So far, the humans seem to be all innocent, as the only "scum" that's dead has been a spirit. By your own explanation, town = innocents, so substituting that into 3: Town wins if they destroy all Evil characters. Seems straightforward enough and says nothing about there being power roles or not.

This adds to my suspicion that he's neutral, not scum.

[zwetschenwasser]

Unvote

I'm suspicious that Lamont is still alive and going overboard defending steph. I'm seeing steph, lamont, and setael as scum.

[Lamont_Cranston]

steph is putting too much emphasis on clearing setael by his own investigation and nothing about actual towniness, and he's assuming that we're all forced to believe him.

I don't like this comment at all. I think this makes a stronger case that Set is scum & you too. How about that?

Um... I see no reasoning.

Well, how about trying to diminish the value of the town cop's investigative powers (the essential Set peek) & get him lynched?? Is that good enough for you?

It is an EXTREMELY anti-town post.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Its making me think that both you AND Set are scum together.

[dramonic]

I think we can worry about Zwet's scumminess once we have an investigation result :3

[Lamont_Cranston]

Ya, that's the point. He's trying to say it will be wrong in advance.

[dramonic]

Theorically, we'll know very quickly if Steph is lying scum or not.

I mean, if Naomi flips scum, he is scum.
If she flips town, he is town.

If he had said she was an innocent he could be scum even if she's town, but he stated a SPECIFIC role, so I doubt he could hit it dead-on on the first try. It'd be a ridiculous gambit.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Oh ya I forgot. Zwet doesn't play ridiculous gambits.

[hohum]

I approve of the direction you guys are headed. You're all thinking a little more clearly now.

Vote, Naomi

[dramonic]

Oh ya I forgot. Zwet doesn't play ridiculous gambits.

I was saying Steph was making a ridiculous gambit, not Zwet.