Boost Mafia 2 (Game Over)

[Sir Tornado]

And Mastin, what is your role name?

[Porochaz]

boost tajo and ether

choosing ether over sajin simply because I want him to answer my question.

[Kmd4390]

I noticed no one has commented on Mastin's claim...... Anyone care to?

Someone said that that role existed for both alignments in the first game. If he's scum, he's probably telling the truth about everything except alignment. If he's town, his role basically just means that

if

he were to ever get a boost, all he does is give it straight to someone else anyway. I'd still support his lynch.

Boost Battle Mage and MissTake

[cateraction]

After reading the roles from the other game, I'd say that Mastin is lying. Townie PM's are more vague, and you don't know what boosts do to you. Scum knows exactly what happens when they are boosted.

[populartajo]

Mastin not claiming a role name and only abilities means that he is prob not lying about his abilities but has a scum rolename.

Also what semioldguy said. I would have expected a massive post with breadcrumbs and such (knowing Mastintown) after all the waiting not an "Im going to check with the mod" BS.

We have our lynch.

Lets proceed with boosting Sajin and Misstake.

Boost : Sajin.

Boost : Misstake.

[cateraction]

Boost: Misstake

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[populartajo]

Or this.

Please view this to see why Mastin is now obvscum

[Battle Mage]

Yes, i disagree. The numbers speak for themselves. Take into account the role of scum as an INFORMED minority, i think it's probably 50-50 at best, and that still isnt great for town. With 3 boosts a day, scum should have no trouble getting 1 and staying out of the limelight. With only 1 a day, if scum want it, they will be far more likely to have to fight for it.

I'm just generally sceptical about the Boost mechanic. Has anyone claimed results from boosts yesterday?

BM

Hmm. Guess you're right that scum can influence it in that way. Still, boosting 2 town, like you say we'll do statistically, is beneficial.

Look. If we boost one person, we have 2 possibilities:
1) We boost scum.
2) We give scum a NK target.

Neither is good.

What if we have a Doctor?

BM

[Patrick]

Votecount

Mastin (6) -- Kmd4390, OhGodMyLife, Sir Tornado, Empking, Kise, MissTake
millar13 (3) -- cateraction, semioldguy, Porochaz
OhGodMyLife (1) -- Sajin
cateraction (1) -- populartajo
Kmd4390 (1) -- Mastin

Not voting: Ether, zwetschenwasser, millar13, Battle Mage
16 alive, 9 to lynch.


Boosting

Kise (1) -- Sajin
Battle Mage (4) -- Sajin, Kise, Empking, Kmd4390
Sajin (5) -- cateraction, Sir Tornado, Kise, semioldguy, populartajo
MissTake (4) -- semioldguy, Ether, Kmd4390, populartajo
Kmd4390 (5) -- cateraction, OhGodMyLife, Empking, millar13, MissTake
OhGodMyLife (1) -- Ether
Ether (2) -- OhGodMyLife, Porochaz
populartajo (1) -- Porochaz

cateraction needs to specify an unboost before his new choice can count.

[Sir Tornado]

boost Battle Mage

[Ether]

Uh, can someone explain to me why BM and especially Sajin are being considered for boosts?

Ether, what are the reasons for PGO being a bad role (according to Patrick)?

Probably what I just said? It's not like we argue about it.

[Battle Mage]

Okay, so I'm having MS.net access problems at home, and my current computer can't copy and paste. <_<

Fortunately, I made it brief enough and the mod gave it approval.

With one boost, I can give a player a boost at night.
With two boosts, I can give two.

Want more details? 'Twould take more conversation with the mod to make sure it's still within the boundries.

Lol, i thought boosts were distributed during the day? Surely a role cant give players boosts in the night phase, as that would be the same time boosts are being used. Seems pretty odd to me.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Uh, can someone explain to me why BM and especially Sajin are being considered for boosts?

Ether, what are the reasons for PGO being a bad role (according to Patrick)?

Probably what I just said? It's not like we argue about it.

*shrug* i'm blates town. I dont really care about fighting for the boosts, but i think boosting me is a particularly smart move for the town. *breadcrumb*

Thoughts on Mastin claim?

BM

[Ether]

You haven't...

done

that much outside of theory arguments, as far as I can tell. Feel free to explain how I'm supposed to read you.

I'll

boost: Battle Mage

just because you asked, though I don't think that's good play.

As I've already said at least twice, he claimed scum.

Thoughts on Kise?

[semioldguy]

Lol, i thought boosts were distributed during the day? Surely a role cant give players boosts in the night phase, as that would be the same time boosts are being used. Seems pretty odd to me.

BM

The last Boost Mafia had a role that distributed boosts during the night phase, so I don't see why it wouldn't happen again here. That doesn't keep Mastin's claim from being a load of BS though.

[Battle Mage]

Was just reading him in iso to try and find the claim. On the surface, i cant see how the claim can be scummy, given it basically means we HAVE to lynch him at some point. Thats pretty retarded for scum. Moreover, he doesnt strike as an obvious cop target, or a 3rd party kill. Was his claim made under pressure?

As far as content goes, i'll try and do some more when i have time.

Re

Vote: Mastin

. My pre-game read was obviously WAY off.

That's -2.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Lol, i thought boosts were distributed during the day? Surely a role cant give players boosts in the night phase, as that would be the same time boosts are being used. Seems pretty odd to me.

BM

The last Boost Mafia had a role that distributed boosts during the night phase, so I don't see why it wouldn't happen again here. That doesn't keep Mastin's claim from being a load of BS though.

why do you think his claim is false?

BM

[semioldguy]

@Ether
You only have two boosts now that the first one was resolved and your two are already on MissTake and OhGodMyLife, you can't also be boosting Battle Mage unless you unboost one of the other two.

I also don't like the boosting of Battle Mage currently as I don't think he has contributed much to the game, aside from posts where he admits to making the analysis before knowing/reading his role.

[Battle Mage]

Lol, i thought boosts were distributed during the day? Surely a role cant give players boosts in the night phase, as that would be the same time boosts are being used. Seems pretty odd to me.

BM

The last Boost Mafia had a role that distributed boosts during the night phase, so I don't see why it wouldn't happen again here. That doesn't keep Mastin's claim from being a load of BS though.

why do you think his claim is false?

BM

to add to this. Did Mastin play in the first game? Would he have any way of knowing of the existence of this type of role? Did Patrick say the role was a success when he used it last time?

BM

[Ether]

Hi, BM. Could you answer my questions about Kise and why you're blatantly town? I should boost you, though I really don't want to.

[Ether]

A scumbag messed up his claim in the exact same way last time.

Semioldguy, why are you boosting Sajin?

[Battle Mage]

@Ether
You only have two boosts now that the first one was resolved and your two are already on MissTake and OhGodMyLife, you can't also be boosting Battle Mage unless you unboost one of the other two.

I also don't like the boosting of Battle Mage currently as I don't think he has contributed much to the game, aside from posts where he admits to making the analysis before knowing/reading his role.

"admits"? You make it sound like a such a bad thing. If anything, it's a sign of outright open-ness of character. Hate to do everyone's work for them, but i think my play has been pretty scummy on balance. Lurking for me is generally a scumtell. I havent stuck with my original read on Mastin, and im wavering on my read on KMD too. And my participation hasnt been too hot. So, as far as i see, anyone voting for me is either scum, town just looking for a fairly easy-to-read player to boost, or town with a genuinely good read on me.

Obviously i'm slightly more wary of the nay-sayers who dont like me being boosted, because there's no value to scum of me being boosted, and im not boosting people anyway, so there isnt any real merit to scum for voting me. So in fact, you can dub everyone boosting me as likely town.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Hi, BM. Could you answer my questions about Kise and why you're blatantly town? I should boost you, though I really don't want to.

1140 and 1146. You love me really.

BM

[Ether]

How so, and what does that have to do with Kise?

[semioldguy]

why do you think his claim is false?

BM

Mastin isn't brief by any means and I would expect any claims from him as town to follow suit of past town claims, which are super elaborate, point to breadcrumbs, etc. His being brief also just doesn't fit with him in general. This claim was not that at all. His role also does not match up with the kind of roles given out to town in the previous Boost Mafia game, and although this isn't the most solid reasoning as the way roles work aren't necessarily going to remain unchanged, I still find it to be a point against his claim. Also apparently what Ether just said in 1145, though that was not part of my initial reasoning.

to add to this. Did Mastin play in the first game? Would he have any way of knowing of the existence of this type of role? Did Patrick say the role was a success when he used it last time?

BM

No, I don't think he played in the first one (neither did I). Anyone could read through the first game and know all the roles from it. Porochaz even linked the role list from that game a page or two back.