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Battle Mage · Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:27 am

Battle Mage wrote:wait, did Mastin replace his alt here? lol

BM

i need this answered before i can reread effectively.

Porochaz · Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:28 am

yes, I believe so.

Sir Tornado · Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:30 am

Ok.

Waiting for Mastin claim. I do believe that Mastin lynch is the way to go there.

Ether's case against Kise is interesting. The problem I have with it is:

- Ether replaced Wiirdo. I suspected Wiirdo of being scum.
- Kise really didn't need to claim semi-PGO when he did. The only reason a scum would have claimed PGO was if he was afraid of being target of a cop investigation, and (I am NOT role fishing here) I don't see Kise as a prime-N1 cop investigation target at the time he made his claim. I do concede though, that this is a bit subjective, and scum are, as a rule more paranoid than town and may think they are scummy when they are not, but I think the claim was premature even considering that.
- Kise's role description seems accurate with what a real PGO role description would be in a boost mafia, notwithstanding Patrick's alleged dislike of PGOs.
- If you assume Kise is scum, then there was a real risk of a counter claim. There was no need to take this risk.

Battle Mage · Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:38 am

Porochaz wrote:yes, I believe so.

so surely this must be a gambit to get himself a clean slate? I've done that before as scum.

Unvote, Vote: Mastin

Despite it going against my read, this alone is enough to warrant his lynch.

BM

OhGodMyLife · Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:40 am

Thanks Sir T for the cleaner and more concise reasons to dislike the Kise-hate.

Porochaz · Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:46 am

I know BM is against this but I am quite angry that he is voting before the boosts have been resolved which is what almost everyone else wants. (or at least havent complained about) so can someone please unvote Mastin as soon as possible.

OhGodMyLife · Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:50 am

Porochaz wrote:I know BM is against this but I am quite angry that he is voting before the boosts have been resolved which is what almost everyone else wants. (or at least havent complained about) so can someone please unvote Mastin as soon as possible.

Not necessary. We can resolve the boosts with Mastin at L-2. Do you really think a quickhammer is likely before all boosts are resolved?

Porochaz · Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:52 am

Pretty sure its L-1 and I dont think its worth the risk. Would rather be safe.

Porochaz · Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:53 am

Sorry, my mistake, never mind then.

Ether · Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:00 am

It's like everyone in this town except me is a PGO and doesn't want to let it on.

Sir Tornado · Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:03 am

Ether wrote: It's like everyone in this town except me is a PGO and doesn't want to let it on.

I already claimed Vanilla.

If I were PGO, I would have claimed doctor.

Ether · Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:08 am

Post 1067, Mastin wrote:Don't like this post at all.

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KMD, Ether, OGML, and Semioldguy all have bad reads from me at this point. My read on Ether is weaker, OGML, stronger, KMD, the same, Semi's new to the list.

Uh, nevermind.
Dislike Ether addressing Semioldguy in this way.

Why?

It's been on my to-do list to yell at you for this habit for a while. When you respond to a post while linking to it, please always name the person and post number.

Why hasn't this behavior of yours been documented in completed games?

Why do you think of my Kisehate?

Ether · Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:28 am

unboost: OhGodMyLife

Maybe later.

semioldguy · Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:15 am

Battle Mage wrote:As i said above, boosting 1 player a day is preferable, as we'll take it far more seriously, and the boosted person will have for more attention on them, if they are scum. Plus, if we boost 1 person, we are statistically less likely to boost scum, then if we give 3 boosts. I guess nobody is gonna bite here, but i stand by my judgement.

BM

Does this mean that once someone is boosted you aren't going to boost-vote any more people for that day?

Porochaz · Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:33 am

1) zwetschenwasser
5) Empking
7) MissTake
12) cateraction
18) Sajin

Mod, Can you prod these people above?

Battle Mage · Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:37 am

Porochaz wrote:I know BM is against this but I am quite angry that he is voting before the boosts have been resolved which is what almost everyone else wants. (or at least havent complained about) so can someone please unvote Mastin as soon as possible.

Unvote

Nobody has commented on my Mastin vote reasoning, and im getting cold feet. will review after my infinitely small shift at work

BM

Patrick · Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:39 am

Prodding MissTake and cateraction. The rest are all on some kind of V/LA.

Kise · Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:03 am

Mastin, you said elsewhere that you never lie about your role, although you will lie about alignment. So, what is all this fuss about getting the mod to approve your claim? Just give us the name of the role, not the description... unless it's an original idea the mod created.

Mastin · Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:26 pm

Okay, so I'm having MS.net access problems at home, and my current computer can't copy and paste. <_<

Fortunately, I made it brief enough and the mod gave it approval.

With one boost, I can give a player a boost at night.
With two boosts, I can give two.

Want more details? 'Twould take more conversation with the mod to make sure it's still within the boundries.

Ether · Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:56 pm

I was all "grr hiss fume I hope he really is town that'll show those motherfuckers," but he's confirmed scum after all. So that's cool, too.

semioldguy · Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:12 pm

"Mastin" and "brief" are not a match.

cateraction · Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:20 pm

Sorry for the absence, RL issues, will be catching up tomorrow.

MissTake · Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:11 pm

So, my wireless internet slaughtered itself. Just got the interbutts back today, and the prod. Will be catching up.

Also, Ether, sorry I didn't get a chance to post. My net died five minutes after that last time.

Ether · Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:24 pm

Mastin can still claim encryptor! My previous offer stands.

Boost: MissTake

because if Kmd says she's acting like she does as town, that's kind of a step up.

Boost: OhGodMyLife

because okay fine. I could go for a Chazboost, too. Like I said earlier, I think it's better to give as many separate people single boosts as possible right now, and bother with Level 3 later.

Can someone with experience with Zwet explain his meta to me?

Seriously, though. Kise is Day 3--Mastin being scum should only make this even more obvious than it already was.

Post 1077, Tornado wrote:- Ether replaced Wiirdo. I suspected Wiirdo of being scum.
- Kise really didn't need to claim semi-PGO when he did. The only reason a scum would have claimed PGO was if he was afraid of being target of a cop investigation, and (I am NOT role fishing here) I don't see Kise as a prime-N1 cop investigation target at the time he made his claim. I do concede though, that this is a bit subjective, and scum are, as a rule more paranoid than town and may think they are scummy when they are not, but I think the claim was premature even considering that.
- Kise's role description seems accurate with what a real PGO role description would be in a boost mafia, notwithstanding Patrick's alleged dislike of PGOs.
- If you assume Kise is scum, then there was a real risk of a counter claim. There was no need to take this risk.

-My alignment should be pretty obvious at this point to anyone with half a meta. OGML, are you seriously concerned about this one?
-He didn't, no, this is true. He's still scum.
-Um, no, it doesn't sound anything like a Level 1 role in a Patmod Boost game. It sounds like a standard PGO.
-Yeah, because there's a token PGO in every game. You know how unnightkillable claims are stereotypically something scum are tempted to make, because they provide an excuse for not dying, can't really be contradicted by previous behavior, aren't likely to get countered and can't force them into awkward positions later like many other roles will? This is sort of like that, only even less common, and with yet another obvious perk.

MissTake · Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:35 pm

KMD wrote:I always dig myself into a hole when people start suspecting me.

Old habits die hard?

Porochaz wrote: I wont read it. And neither will most other people.

Agreed. I'm sorry, but mega posting can get rather grating, and I have a busy summer.

I probably missed something - I'm skimming at the moment, but are we basing the assumption that Kise is lying about his claim on the fact that you (Ether) personally know the mod?

If that's the case, I'm sorry, but I don't trust you enough to go with what you're saying. You can get away with murder by claiming that you know the mod of this game. Just because you know

him

doesn't mean that you're town.

Ether wrote:I was all "grr hiss fume I hope he really is town that'll show those motherfuckers," but he's confirmed scum after all. So that's cool, too.

Who are we talking about here?

Ether wrote:-My alignment should be pretty obvious at this point to anyone with half a meta. OGML, are you seriously concerned about this one?

I'm new to the board, I have no meta opinion of you. Want to link me to a scum game and a townie game? Thanks in advance.

Also - Kise, jock riding? Really?