The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Lamont_Cranston]

Mod Votecount please

Ok so lets make a list of people that haven't claimed about the doll:

Rocka, Naomi, Sironi, Zwet, Amished

[Lamont_Cranston]

@Hohum:

Do you have the doll?

[Stephoscope]

The lies:
-Innocent isn''t allignment. When this was pointed out, it got changed to ''anti-spirit''. Also, in this game, it''s also very strange if somebody''s allignment would be ''pro-town''.

That's a misrepresentation of things I have said. My role PM specifically states "fellow Innocents". My Naomi investigation PM specifically states both "pro-town" and "anti-Spirit", strange as you may think it to be. I have been entirely consistent, and nothing has "changed".

-Naomi states that her role is ''gentelman thief'', which is what Stepho claimed before changing it to ''infamous gentleman thief''

That I said "gentleman thief" first is irrelevant, since I EBWOP'ed it a minute later because I forgot the "infamous" part. My PM states "infamous gentleman thief". If I were making up something safe, don't you think I would have stopped at "gentleman thief"? A quick Google search for "Trilby gentleman thief" gives back lots of results, but searching for "Trilby infamous gentleman thief" doesn't seem to bring back anything with that choice of words except for this game itself. And was Pablo's untimely death not evidence that I'm not lying about my investigations? I don't believe that Pablo hinted at his Innocent role, which is one reason why I chose to investigate him...because I thought he might be scum.

-No role PM so far claimed has ''an fellow Innocents''. All the others have claimed ''and fellow humans''.

This is basically it regarding Stepho.

That the PMs are apparently inconsistent does not make me a liar. And Amished (who seems to be the most familiar with the series) has already described why the choice of wording may be deliberate and make sense.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Vote Count

Rockatansky: 3 (Lamont_Cranston, dramonic, populartajo)
dramonic: 1 (Setael)
Naomi_Saotome: 1 (ZazieR)

[Devestation]

Can someone remind me about the reasons why people are voting for Rockatansky?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Well now you can add definitely lurking to the list but he was acting anti-town whey back there; he took a shot at trying to derail the town vig & really didn't help much. There was one post that seemed helpful but it wasn't leading the way; someone else had pointed out the same thing earlier. No helpful posts at all, generally anti-town attitude.

[Setael]

@zazier - is there anything Naomi has done that is not explained by the fact that this is her very first game? If she is scum, stepho is also scum since he claimed an innocent on her. That would mean we have TWO fake claiming cop roles and no real cop.

Haven't had a chance to look at that link. Will do asap.

I do have something I need to post. I received a couple pms from the mod after asking for clarification. The matches are not transferable. I have to keep them and I must be alive at end game for a town win. If I'm not alive at endgame the best the town can get is a draw. The mod also confirmed that the scum do not need the matches to win.

This seems pretty messed up to me but I guess it's evened out since we have a multiple protect doc. I thought about not sharing these pms since it paints a NK target on my forehead but I don't think we can risk me being NKd anyway for whatever reason, not having shared this info with the town.

So yeah. Doc, you need to protect me tonight.

[Stephoscope]

Mod: Are the matches transferable?

[Lamont_Cranston]

I do have something I need to post. I received a couple pms from the mod after asking for clarification. The matches are not transferable. I have to keep them and I must be alive at end game for a town win. If I'm not alive at endgame the best the town can get is a draw. The mod also confirmed that the scum do not need the matches to win.

OMGOSH, I'm calling horseshit here. I need to know right now why set shouldn't be lynched immediately.

[Stephoscope]

I do have something I need to post. I received a couple pms from the mod after asking for clarification. The matches are not transferable. I have to keep them and I must be alive at end game for a town win. If I'm not alive at endgame the best the town can get is a draw. The mod also confirmed that the scum do not need the matches to win.

OMGOSH, I'm calling horseshit here. I need to know right now why set shouldn't be lynched immediately.

It is conceivable that the Manor needs to be burned down to win.

[dramonic]

Are we actually supposed to buy that crap Set?

Unvote
Vote: Setael

[Stephoscope]

It's also worth noting that what Setael is claiming is in line with Pablo's request for protection.

[Lamont_Cranston]

WHY OH WHY OH FREAKING WHY DOES THIS GAME NEVER EVER EVER GO NORMALLY!?

I need to throw a tantrum with cying and screaming and everything.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Hey, you signed up for it.

[hohum]

I have nothing in inventory. No doll. No matches.

[dramonic]

but it makes no sense to put an item on which the whole fate of the town's victory depends. I think Set is lying

On the other hand, if she IS telling the truth and we lynch her...

[Pyromaniac]

Lynch Seteal

Pablo died. Matches lived on.

[populartajo]

Unvote Vote : Setael.

1. An item alone shouldnt be that important for towns victory. Specially when its too early in the game.

2. If we assume Setael is town and is telling the truth, what would have happened if this item had been claimed by scum? Yes, town would only fight for a draw. Makes sense? No.

More likely is that Setael lied about what it did and thats why he doesnt want to transfer it and came up in the meanwhile with a fakeclaim that could give him his ticket to endgame.

Not buying it.

[Lamont_Cranston]

but it makes no sense to put an item on which the whole fate of the town's victory depends. I think Set is lying

On the other hand, if she IS telling the truth and we lynch her...

Ya that's me.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Lynch Seteal

Pablo died. Matches lived on.

This is me too.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Not buying it.

This is me.

Unvote, Vote Setael

[dramonic]

Is that you?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Ya. :/

[hohum]

Unvote, Vote Setael

I like this wagon.

[Devestation]

vote: Setael

Doesnt add up one bit.

If the moderator is trying to mindscrew us out of making decisions, its time we started making em cus each time we dont make one we get a lot closer to losing.