The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

[dramonic]

I know that, I mean it's not like anyone had real suspicions on him from what I can tell.

In fact, his vote without an explanation made him sound scummier.

[ZazieR]

@zazier: what reason do you have to think I'm not telling the truth?

I guess Elmo can always give them to whomever the town decides on before he dies.

give matches to Elmo

-Items found during the day must be used before the lynch. The only exception so far was the shell as it had to be combined with a gun.
-It came at the same time with the doll. It seems to me that the two are connected. Flavour of the game reinforces this if it's the idol as the idol was destroyed due to a fire.
-Both town and scum don't need to burn down the mansion for their win condition. In other words, it means the matches would be used for flavour if you are correct. This seems very unlikely to me.

[ZazieR]

But thanks for giving the matches to Elmo.

Mod, can we have a prod on him as well?

[ZazieR]

Setael

, this

[ZazieR]

Well, I still think that John DeFoe is a serial killer team.

I don''t think so. A serial killer works on his own. Even if there are more, they all work on their own. So it''s not possible for them to be a team.
And speculating on it doesn''t help. We''ll find out during the night.

Political mafia.

What?

[Pyromaniac]

Well, I still think that John DeFoe is a serial killer team.

I don''t think so. A serial killer works on his own. Even if there are more, they all work on their own. So it''s not possible for them to be a team.
And speculating on it doesn''t help. We''ll find out during the night.

Political mafia.

What?

Has a serial killer duo.

[ZazieR]

Link?

[Pyromaniac]

Sorry, US election 08.

[Pyromaniac]

viewtopic.php?t=10122

[Knight of Cydonia]

Good game, that. We wuz robbed.

Prods that were requested have been sent. Elmo is due to go on holiday on the 22nd, so I'm avoiding prodding him and seeing if I can get hohum to re-replace earlier, since no-one opposed it via PM.

[dramonic]

what is we wuz robbed supposed to mean?

[Knight of Cydonia]

I was on the losing Mafia faction in Election '08.

[Elmo]

Yeah, I'm sorry, I was going to put together a care package but life has been pissing all over me recently. I support hohum replacing in now, in any case; I might get round to it but I wouldn't bet on it.

Good luck y'all!

[ZazieR]

So both the mod posted and the player to whom it was posted to give the matches to, and we still don''t know if they have been received >.<

Good luck, Elmo. I''ll miss you.

[Devestation]

Then we continue without bothering with the matches for now IMHO.

[Elmo]

I don't have notification of anything. I don't know what that means. (shrug)

[ZazieR]

Then we continue without bothering with the matches for now IMHO.

No. Because if they are indeed combined with the doll, they will be important.
And if you don''t want to bother with the matches, then why don''t you bring something up you want to discuss? Because I''m waiting for Naomi to state her flavour and explain why she chose you for investigation when she says she has seen your claim and flavour claim. And I''m waiting on the doll claim.

[ZazieR]

I don't have notification of anything. I don't know what that means. (shrug)

Probably that you don''t have them.
I wonder why.

[Lamont_Cranston]

I wonder if everyone should do a doll claim.

I don't have it

[Knight of Cydonia]

hohum returns in place of Elmo, effective immediately.

[Setael]

-Items found during the day must be used before the lynch. The only exception so far was the shell as it had to be combined with a gun.
-It came at the same time with the doll. It seems to me that the two are connected. Flavour of the game reinforces this if it's the idol as the idol was destroyed due to a fire.
-Both town and scum don't need to burn down the mansion for their win condition. In other words, it means the matches would be used for flavour if you are correct. This seems very unlikely to me.

where are you getting that all items must be used during the day? Weren't we even told we could have used the shotgun later if we'd have waited for the right size shell? Seems like that "must use today" assumption is incorrect.

I see no basis for thinking they are tied. That also is all based on assumption.

I do not know that the town HAS to burn down the house. I think that may be what Pablo thought and therefore why he asked for protection. You're really stretching here.

It really looks like you're trying to paint me as scummy based on some convoluted logic. I don't like it. I took them to keep scum from having them. I gave them freely to Elmo. IGMEOY for this attempt to get the town to disbelieve and suspect me.

I also think Dev is spot on saying we should get to scum hunting instead of wasting time discussing items AGAIN when this has lead to a no lynch TWICE. I'll be rereading looking at zaz as soon as I have a chance.

[Pyromaniac]

I don't have it

[ZazieR]

You asked me why I think that you are lying. I gave my reasons for it. And some are indeed based upon assumptions.

Check the rules. See 7. Seems I am correct that items found during the day must be used before a lynch.

I''ve just explained the basis for thinking they are tied. If you disagree, state why.

Town doesn''t have to burn down the house. If you are town, you should know this. So explain why there is a so-called item in play which isn''t needed for either town or scum if you are correct.

As long as Elmo (now Hohum) doesn''t state that what you are saying is correct, I have no reason to believe you. I have given three reasons why it''s likely you are lying. All are still valid.
The only reason why I''m considering you telling the truth is because you came up with the idea of giving them to Elmo. Nothing else you have said about it, makes me consider it.

[ZazieR]

Hohum

, did you receive the matches? If so, what do they do?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Claim Tally

(don't have it)
Lamont
Pyro