The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Stephoscope]

It makes me scratch my head a little bit that you apparently were in this thread and got the matches via PM without actually making a post here that day...but unless there is a counterclaim regarding the matches, I don't see any reason not to believe you.

[Setael]

Don't know what I'd have posted other than "Ima gonna try and get me them matches and that there dolly." I think the thread is better off with that little tidbit.

[dramonic]

but then why did Pablo vote me without any explanation?

[Setael]

Who are you asking? If me, all I can tell you is that it had nothing to do with the matches. He probably just noticed how scummy you've been. Maybe he read amished's or my case.

[Devestation]

well thats 1 item located. But burning down the house will result in everyone else's deaths, and probably your own from falling roof tiles xD

[dramonic]

Well, if he's townie he COULD kill all the scum and others inside, resulting in a town win XD

But I doubt we can escape the manor right now.

[ZazieR]

When the dust settles, the matches are gone, and no-one will admit to taking them.

Setael

, could you explain this?

[ZazieR]

It makes me scratch my head a little bit that you apparently were in this thread and got the matches via PM without actually making a post here that day...but unless there is a counterclaim regarding the matches, I don't see any reason not to believe you.

Believing that she has them isn''t hard. That''s most likely correct.
Believing that she''s telling the truth about what the matches do, is a different story.

[ZazieR]

Mod, can you prod Naomi and Rockatansky?

[Stephoscope]

Setael, would you be willing to try to give the matches to Elmo?

We still have him another day, right?

[Setael]

My interpretation of the pm is they can only be used by someone who survives to endgame. Therefore I don't know if we should give them to Elmo. If that's what the town wants though I'll certainly comply. It might be a good way to verif that what I said about them is true.

@ zazie: I asked the mod about that before I said in thread that I have them since I thought it meant I wasn't supposed to say it in thread. He gave me permission so I did.

[dramonic]

Well, if the matches are supposed to be used to burn the house, they'll make it to endgame. Also, their bearer dying doesn't seem to change anything, look at Pablo.

[Lamont_Cranston]

The question is, what would scum do with the matches? And what defines endgame anyway? I guess the matches and the whole issue are kind of useless.

It is the doll we should be focusing on.

[Pyromaniac]

I think the doll has malevolent effects.

[dramonic]

Well, if the theory about the doll possessing the user is correct we'll probably have proof during the night.

[Pyromaniac]

Well, I still think that John DeFoe is a serial killer team.

[ZazieR]

My interpretation of the pm is they can only be used by someone who survives to endgame. Therefore I don't know if we should give them to Elmo. If that's what the town wants though I'll certainly comply. It might be a good way to verif that what I said about them is true.

@ zazie: I asked the mod about that before I said in thread that I have them since I thought it meant I wasn't supposed to say it in thread. He gave me permission so I did.

Yes. I want you to give them to Elmo if possible.

[ZazieR]

Why do some players think that Setael might be speaking the truth?

[ZazieR]

Well, if the theory about the doll possessing the user is correct we'll probably have proof during the night.

This. If the doll is indeed the idol of the game and has the soul of DeFoe in it, we''ll find out during the night.

[ZazieR]

Well, I still think that John DeFoe is a serial killer team.

I don''t think so. A serial killer works on his own. Even if there are more, they all work on their own. So it''s not possible for them to be a team.
And speculating on it doesn''t help. We''ll find out during the night.

[Setael]

@zazier: what reason do you have to think I'm not telling the truth?

I guess Elmo can always give them to whomever the town decides on before he dies.

give matches to Elmo

[Stephoscope]

Why do some players think that Setael might be speaking the truth?

The whole "can only be used by someone at endgame" is certainly mighty convenient, given that Elmo is our confirmed townie and he's apparently not going to make it that far. However, to her credit, Setael offered to try giving them to Elmo right away, and has followed through on that (even when not nearly everyone has chimed in about it)

All indications are that both Pablo and Setael were told *something* about the matches, so there's no reason to think Elmo won't also be told the same thing if/when the matches are in his possession.

It's not outside the realm of possibility that both Pablo and Setael were lying about the matches for perceived pro-town (and/or self-serving) reasons...so Elmo, if there's some reason why you shouldn't speak up about the matches, please just tell us "no comment" instead of lying. You don't have to worry about being scummy.

[Pyromaniac]

Well, I still think that John DeFoe is a serial killer team.

I don''t think so. A serial killer works on his own. Even if there are more, they all work on their own. So it''s not possible for them to be a team.
And speculating on it doesn''t help. We''ll find out during the night.

Political mafia.

[dramonic]

But Pablo had no reason to want to appear town, he WAS town.

[Devestation]

The whole point of this game is to look down, Dramonic