Boost Mafia 2 (Game Over)

[Porochaz]

I myself am going to have a reread soon(ie. today at some point) focusing on Mastin and millar13/ I honestly dont understand the case on Mastin himself, beyond having an annoying predecessor(if your to believe that ConsM and Mastin are different people) and them both lurking ironically. Im also going to take the oppurtunity to read up on millar and the people he suspects. However for now I am happy with my vote on millar all his posts in the past few days have been nothing short of scummy. My boosts by the way have almost been decided so

boost kmd and sajin

. Both of them have had contentful posts and have shown an active interest in scumhunting whilst not looking scummy themselves. I am still deciding on my 3rd boost.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Mastin (7) -- Kmd4390, OhGodMyLife, Sir Tornado, Empking, Kise, millar13, MissTake
millar13 (3) -- cateraction, semioldguy, Porochaz
OhGodMyLife (1) -- Sajin

Not voting: populartajo, Mastin, Wiirdo, zwetschenwasser, Battle Mage
16 alive, 9 to lynch.

Boosting

Kise (1) -- Sajin
Battle Mage (3) -- Sajin, Kise, Empking
Porochaz (6) -- Sajin, Sir Tornado, Empking, MissTake, Kise, cateraction
Sajin (6) -- Kmd4390, cateraction, Sir Tornado, Kise, semioldguy, Porochaz
MissTake (2) -- Kmd4390, OhGodMyLife
Kmd4390 (6) -- cateraction, OhGodMyLife, Empking, millar13, MissTake, Porochaz
populartajo (1) -- millar13
semioldguy (1) -- OhGodMyLife
zwetschenwasser (1) -- millar13

[Empking]

Mastin: Who's scum?

[Kmd4390]

KMD = Scum. No reason for him to have a go at ConsonantM for self-boosting, when self-boosting is logical for town.

Hmm. I don't remember doing this. I happen to agree with you that if self-boosting were allowed, it would be logical.

KMD = Scum. Blowing smoke at ConsonantM. Overdefensive in Post 46.

Blowing smoke? I call it "being suspicious" of him, but either way, why is it scummy? And what is overdefensive? Calling obvOMGUS?

KMD = Scum. Why in god's name would you hide your activity on MS? Smells of scum.

So people don't make crap arguements that I'm online and not posting and must be scum. I've been hidden for over a year. All of my accounts (except my hydra with Zazie) are hidden. Why is this scummy?

I really dont like the way KMD feigns aggression in Post 57.

TBH, not sure what this means.

Haha, KMD plays on SA? xD That figures.

What's that supposed to mean?

130 by KMD is ridiculously stupid. Statistically, the expected number of boosts going to town would not be 3. I doubt it would even be 2.

If we were to boost randomly, I'd agree with you. But we are boosting people who we think are town. It takes good play by scum or poor play by town for a scum to be boosted. I still think it's more likely that we boost 3 town than it is that we boost scum. That being said, I prefer to boost 3 players each day.

So you want him lynched because you think he makes the game less fun and NOT because you think he is scum?

At first yes. I now suspect him to be scum.

Why?

I was lurking due to a combination of RL and other games that were in later stages.

I am guilty of voting conso regardless of alignment, because at the time, he made the game unenjoyable for me.

To your defense on lurking, fair enough.

If you vote someone for making the game unenjoyable, do you really think that is the proper play in a team game where it hurts your chances of winning if you don't even think the player is scum?

Also, please elaborate on your reasons for voting Mastin and boosting Porochaz.

[Kmd4390]

Oh, and BM? Zazie says hi.

[Sajin]

Still waiting for OGML to respond to allegations.

[cateraction]

I am not voting Mastin, I am voting Millar as I think he is scummy. Boosting Porochaz was based on him being fairly level headed, doing legitimate scum-hunting and being one of the ones to really push Mastin (along with KMD). I think Mastin is scummy because of the reasons those two have put forth, but I think Millar is scummier.

KMD: Why do you think Millar is townie as hell?

[populartajo]

I havent read all what I missed yet but I did skim some.

I strongly disagree with boosting KMD again for reasons that should be obvious to everyone.

[populartajo]

Some things that caught my attention day 2.

1. This is the wagon that lynched Mufasa

Mufasa (10) -- semioldguy, Porochaz, Kise, Papa Zito, Sir Tornado, Wiirdo, populartajo, cateraction, Sajin, millar13

Now that we know that Mufaa was scummy town, its extremely possible we have at least 1-2 scum in the wagon, . Still too many people alive to make a proper analysis but thought this would be important to point.

2. Why did scum prefer Zito over me or Kmd? Was Zito more dangerous that me or KMD? Prob going into WIFOM territory here but still something to notice.

[populartajo]

Scumlist

Prob town
2) Sir Tornado
4) Battle Mage
7) MissTake
9) millar13
14) Kise
16) Porochaz
18) Sajin

Neutral
1) zwetschenwasser
3) OhGodMyLife
5) Empking
8) Kmd4390
11) semioldguy
13) Wiirdo

Prob scum
12) cateraction (but prob not scum with Mastin)
15) Mastin (but prob not scum with cateraction)

Boost : MissTake, Battle Mage, Sajin.

I would support the Mastin wagon and will prob join it later but boosts still havent resolved and I think there is a lot to discuss. Lets go for this avenue.

Vote : cateraction.

[populartajo]

Also, Mastin is at L-2 so he should probably consider claiming.

Kmd, why do you think millar is obvtown and why do you think prozac is scummy?

[Porochaz]

1) zwetschenwasser
2) Sir Tornado
3) OhGodMyLife
4) Battle Mage (replacing BloodCovenent)
5) Empking
7) MissTake
8) Kmd4390
9) millar13
11) semioldguy
12) cateraction
13) Wiirdo
14) Kise
15) Mastin (replacing ConsonantM)
16) Porochaz
6) populartajo
10) Sajin

Ok list above is the 16 alive players. I am going to do a PBPA on everyone (hopefully) but not all tonight. So going to choose my first few by dice roll.

Original Roll String: 1d16

1 16-Sided Dice: (7) = 7

[Porochaz]

Fuck it, I tried to be smart on my dyslecia software and it fucked up. Because my computer is a piece of absolute fucking garbage and likes to autopress the back button every fucking ten minutes. Sorry will try again later except I will just write notes on everyone.

[Porochaz]

Ok trying again. Calmed down a bit.

People
I. Sir Tornado
Empking questions Sir T based on lurking

claims Vanilla votes mufasa
A. Boost Day 1
1. papa zito

2. kmd

3. cons M/Mastin

admits to not reading posts word for word. Gets general gist of what he is saying

No explanation for vote day 2
B. Boost Day 2
1. OGML
2. Sajin
3. Poro
C. Votes Attacks Day 1
1. Wiirdo
Votes Wiirdo based on pattern.

Votes Wiirdo again for post 422.
2. Kise
thinks Kise is town after claim
D. Votes/Attacks Day 2

1. cons M/Mastin

Through out this game, sirT has been fairly quiet. He has voted and boosted but hasnt really gotten into the game. Im interested to know his reasons for his uturn on Mastin, boosting him day 1, voting him day 2, without an explanation. Im also wanting to hear his thoughts on kmd, why are you not boosting him today after boosting him yesterday? I am also interested in your thoughts on Wiirdo at the moment.

[populartajo]

Cateraction

iso 0. So annoying, not helpful.
Vote: ConsonantM

voting not for a scumtell.

iso 1. Quickly boosting after Sajin said that its scummy to keep posting without boosting anyone

iso 2. What about BloodCovenant? He's been lurking just as hardcore as me.

Deflecting.

iso 4. I'm voting him purely outside of any win condition. He makes the game unenjoyable for me. The long posts full of meaninglessness are "this". I admit that this may not be the most pro-town attitude, but I really don't care.

Agressive stance but defending a scummy position.

iso 6. Lol at kise.
"Oh, I don't know if I want to claim a power role, but I am one, I mean, I probably shouldn't claim"

IIOA - Active lurking.

iso 10. Umm, if you recall, I was voting for Conso because he's annoying pain in the ass, not because I particularly thought either way about his alignment. Changing my vote to someone I think is scum is hardly scummy.

Jumping into the bandwagon without giving reasons or talking about him before.

Posterior isos are millar hate for a reason that I find weak. I think millar is prob town so yeah.

iso 19. Boost: Battlemage, KMD, Sajin

Why did you pick these targets? Why did you feel the pressure to do this again as soon as Sajin pointed out?

iso 21. As to my lurking, I was. I was in a bunch of games, and just kinda sitting back and watching.

Admits active lurking. Nice.

Summary : votes on someone he thinks he is not scum, heavy active lurking, jump in a wagon of a flipped town with no reasons, quickly boosting when pressured.

Yeah, we have active lurker scum here.

Cateraction, besides miller, who do you think is scum/neutral/town?

[Porochaz]

People
II. zwet
doesnt like random boosting
A. Boost Day 2
B. Boost Day 1
1. OGML
unboosts due to OGML being lazy and not boosting based on his own opinions. No problems here.
2. Kmd
3. Papa Zito
C. Votes Attacks Day 1
1. MissTake
A vote for apparent OMGUS. Dont see it myself.

Unvotes unwillingly after kmd explains it was a joke vote
2. Battle Mage
Again not sure why hes voting BM
D. Votes/Attacks Day 2

E. Likes
1. MissTake
Likes a post of hers on page 13 cant assertain which though

Zwet is another player who I cannot put down mostly because he does not explain any of his moves. Throughout my reread I have disagreed with some things I agree with others but mostly I just dont understand. Like sirt I have a neutral read on zwet. I would like him to explain his boosts and votes thus far.

[Porochaz]

III. OGML
Away a lot Day 1. Hands vote over to kmd and zito, isn’t used

Doesnt like Mufasa wagon

Seems to dislike tajo but doesnt vote
A. Boost Day 1
1. Papa Zito
trusts to use boost well
a. Unboost
lost confidence
2. Sir T
trusts to use the boost well
3. Kmd
Kmd apparently obvtown
4. Mufasa
disagrees totally with the voting wagon
B. Votes Day 1
1. ConsM
C. Questions
1. Sajin
Unwillingness to Vote
D. Votes Day 2
1. Mastin
E. Boosts Day 2
1. Sir T
a. Unboost
People tell him Sir T claimed vanilla
2. semioldguy
town read
3. kmd
town read
4. MissTake
town read

OGML is yet another one with minimal posting. However he has actually explained a few of his actions and his very clear dislike of the Mufasa wagon makes me think he is town. OGML what are you feelings on tajo's play, day 2?

[Porochaz]

Not using my dyslexia software for BM and BC simply because there is nothing there. Waiting for BM to post something now that he has got his role PM. Still have a problem with people boosting him despite having no real posts to speak of (unless you count the one[two] he got before his role pm). Whilst I am open to the idea of boosting BM I wont be considering it until he has made a couple of posts which show his current thoughts and feelings and has dispelled my fears that the few posts BC did make were just "sheep posts". As for everyone else, I dont care if your boosting him (or anyone else for that matter) but I want a reason for it.

[Incognito]

Ether replaces Wiirdo effective immediately.

I don't believe I've said hi to this thread yet... I'm the backup mod btw.

[Ether]

Hi. I'm here to bring an end to the space pirate menace and all that nice stuff, but I haven't actually read the thread yet. What's the Mastinwagon about? Who's town? I need to know so I can sheep.

[cateraction]

12) cateraction (but prob not scum with Mastin)

Why?

Summary : votes on someone he thinks he is not scum, heavy active lurking, jump in a wagon of a flipped town with no reasons, quickly boosting when pressured.

Guilty. Guilty. I gave reasons for my vote on Mufasa, and reasons for not voting him immediately when I thought he was scummy. Coincidence, and I explained my boosts when asked to.

[Ether]

By the way, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the Mastinwagon probably sucks. As much as I hate reading his posts and dread continuing to read them. I'm certainly not saying I read stuff, but what I did read makes this whole thing look like more of a false dilemma than I'm comfortable with.

I mean, Tornado's 641 and 753. Wow. I'm aware of his vanilla claim and that's the only thing restraining me at all here. Tornado, you'd gambit like that as scum anyway, right? I'm not really sure how you play, but you should give me permission to lynch you.

[Kise]

The Mastin wagon is not based on eliminating his huge text (well, it is for cateraction, though). It seems like there is more than 1 reason others are voting for him. My reason is due to him misrepresenting a few of the players here and not being able to quote/prove what he's saying. We're still waiting to see a relevant reply from him after over a week. He should have made his return tonight. Hopefully tomorrow he'll update.

But I really do want an explanation as to why we're blowing past other suspects. In all honesty, I

shouldn't

be voting on Mastin out of principle, but I think he's scummy. I do think that millar13 is

scummier

, and ConsM is still scum. So, if this one flips townie I'm going to slaughter a few of them; and probably my husband too. :rara:

I'll probably be hiding at my mistress' house if that ever happens.

Oh yeah... do you feel that the wagon Mastin is some sort of policy lynch, or something similar? And where do the scum-vibes come from; what is it that Mastin did that made you believe he was maf'?

[Porochaz]

Grandpa had a heart attack suffice to say I will be finding out about that before I do anything

[Porochaz]

Empking - Nothing much here either. He posts mainly to vote and boost. It fits his meta but I would like at least something from him. Even if its just an explanation for his boosts.