Mini 808 - Rabbit Doubt Mafia: Over!

[Kreriov]

@Myko - Yup, why do you think I removed my vote? Anyway, you asked. None of those scum suspicions are very strong. One reason I am not voting for anyone Will be interesting to see what others have to say.

[Kmd4390]

@Mykonian - Ok.

My suspects are a as follows with a brief reason why.

Tenchi - Jumping wagons for little or no reason.
PhilyEc - Being way to defensive about mistakes
Mykonian - This whole weird KMD back and forth thing
Kmd - Pushing a bad case
Ztife - Lurking

So you suspect one less than half the game. Awesome. And two of those (obviously not yourself) match mine. And yet I'm suspicious for pushing a bad case?

@Myko - Yup, why do you think I removed my vote? Anyway, you asked. None of those scum suspicions are very strong. One reason I am not voting for anyone Will be interesting to see what others have to say.

^Spaghetti tactic.

[Iecerint]

Back again. No more running off for awhile:

Iecerint moves to the Corridor.

Iecerint moves to Room 4

Tenchi - Jumping wagons for little or no reason.
PhilyEc - Being way to defensive about mistakes
Mykonian - This whole weird KMD back and forth thing
Kmd - Pushing a bad case
Ztife - Lurking

Tenchi and Phily I can understand categorically, but those aren't the best reasons out there in my view. The same could go for myko. And Kmd is suspicious for pushing a case against a player that you yourself think is scummy (granted, a poor one)? This is not the list I would have expected to see. Particularly, could you clarify your view of myko and Kmd? Are they both scum? Is one of them scum?

Gregory, I was referring to your set-up speculation that restrooms might protect female players.

[Looker]

Myk's Post 519 - Sorry, but trying to handle RL matters simultaneously. Either way, I would appreciate it if you, Gregory, & Ztife could come up with some suspicions or something to get the game moving. Aren't we still under deadline? Are we intentionally heading for a no-lynch?

Still waiting for a Bitchibee replacement, but...

Back again. No more running off for awhile:

Iecerint moves to the Corridor.

Iecerint moves to Room 4

Tenchi - Jumping wagons for little or no reason.
PhilyEc - Being way to defensive about mistakes
Mykonian - This whole weird KMD back and forth thing
Kmd - Pushing a bad case
Ztife - Lurking

Tenchi and Phily I can understand categorically, but those aren't the best reasons out there in my view. The same could go for myko. And Kmd is suspicious for pushing a case against a player that you yourself think is scummy (granted, a poor one)?

This is not the list I would have expected to see

.

Particularly, could you clarify your view of myko and Kmd? Are they both scum? Is one of them scum?

Gregory, I was referring to your set-up speculation that restrooms might protect female players.

·

What list would you have expected to see? Can you express your suspicions with a vote?

@Myko - Yup, why do you think I removed my vote? Anyway, you asked. None of those scum suspicions are very strong. One reason I am not voting for anyone Will be interesting to see what others have to say.

So you don't think anyone else is scum? You have no suspicions of others? Does anyone have any suspicions of you?

[Iecerint]

I expected to see a list with different reasons, and/or conditional scum relationships. The suspects themselves are fine, except that I find Kmd-myko improbable. I don't think Kre is necessarily positing such a pairing, but the post is ambiguous.

I'm ashamed to say that I don't really have strong reads in this game. If I were forced at gunpoint to vote a player, it would be Tenchi both because Batt's characterization of Tenchi's attack on him seemed plausible to me and because his activity dropped dramatically after I questioned whether his high activity was causing problems for him. The second is partially explained by V/LA, but not wholly.

[mykonian]

@Mykonian - Ok.

My suspects are a as follows with a brief reason why.

Tenchi - Jumping wagons for little or no reason.
PhilyEc - Being way to defensive about mistakes
Mykonian - This whole weird KMD back and forth thing
Kmd - Pushing a bad case
Ztife - Lurking

So you suspect one less than half the game. Awesome. And two of those (obviously not yourself) match mine. And yet I'm suspicious for pushing a bad case?

@Myko - Yup, why do you think I removed my vote? Anyway, you asked. None of those scum suspicions are very strong. One reason I am not voting for anyone Will be interesting to see what others have to say.

^Spaghetti tactic.

agreed. Though it was a weak case that you continued too long.

[mykonian]

Myk's Post 519 - Sorry, but trying to handle RL matters simultaneously. Either way, I would appreciate it if you, Gregory, & Ztife could come up with some suspicions or something to get the game moving. Aren't we still under deadline? Are we intentionally heading for a no-lynch?

eh, why am I put in a list with ztife and Gregory. And why should I seek scum for you? and why do you threaten us? what makes you think a no-lynch is even possible?

[PhilyEc]

Okay I'm seeing alot of patting on eachothers backs for cases and even more contradictions, some making little sense (ie Kre finding Kmd scum for bad cases on people he thinks are scum).

Has a deadline been set though? I looks like many view the same people as scummy but dont want to agree with eachother because they suspect those people too.

@Looker,
I've just realised that I've not heard much opinionation from you, who do you suspect yourself and why?
@All,
Who would you be willing to see lynched today and why? (assume you control the hammer)

[mykonian]

ztife would be the "save" lynch for me (in case everything fails), where I expect this to be Tenchi from the rest. I am against a tenchi lynch.

I rather have KMD, or Kreviov at the moment. I think. Need a reread (and sleep), but that should be the general way I'm thinking. I don't want phily anymore.

[Battousai]

Deadline be the 20th of July. At deadline, the person with the most votes is lynched and if it is a tie, the person who has been at that number of votes the longest, will be lynched (highlighted in green in the vote counts).

KMD-

Battousai wants to move to room 1

. Why do you keep your door locked?

Battousai moves to room 10

Battousai moves to room 6

Myk- Why do you refuse to give your suspicions?

My top lynch candidate would be either Tenchi or mykonian, where bitchibee would be my safe lynch (not save Myk ).

[PhilyEc]

ztife would be the "save" lynch for me (in case everything fails), where I expect this to be Tenchi from the rest. I am against a tenchi lynch.

I rather have KMD, or Kreviov at the moment. I think. Need a reread (and sleep), but that should be the general way I'm thinking. I don't want phily anymore.

You dont want me? </3

On a serious note, whats dispelled your doubts upon Tenchi? You were willing to vote for him earlier..

[Kmd4390]

@Mykonian - Ok.

My suspects are a as follows with a brief reason why.

Tenchi - Jumping wagons for little or no reason.
PhilyEc - Being way to defensive about mistakes
Mykonian - This whole weird KMD back and forth thing
Kmd - Pushing a bad case
Ztife - Lurking

So you suspect one less than half the game. Awesome. And two of those (obviously not yourself) match mine. And yet I'm suspicious for pushing a bad case?

@Myko - Yup, why do you think I removed my vote? Anyway, you asked. None of those scum suspicions are very strong. One reason I am not voting for anyone Will be interesting to see what others have to say.

^Spaghetti tactic.

agreed. Though it was a weak case that you continued too long.

Because it took that long to get a reaction.

And why should I seek scum for you?

Um, isn't that the main goal for a townie?

@All,
Who would you be willing to see lynched today and why? (assume you control the hammer)

I want to lynch Tenchi or Myko. I'd be more than happy to lynch Kreriov. I'd be willing to lynch you. I wouldn't be upset lynching Bitchi, Zt, or Gregory. Anyone else, not my top choice, but I'd take over a no lynch.

ztife would be the "save" lynch for me (in case everything fails), where I expect this to be Tenchi from the rest. I am against a tenchi lynch.

I rather have KMD, or Kreviov at the moment. I think. Need a reread (and sleep), but that should be the general way I'm thinking. I don't want phily anymore.

Funny, I thought you suspected Tenchi. And note the distancing from Kreriov here.

KMD-

Battousai wants to move to room 1

. Why do you keep your door locked?

Why do you want to come into the bathroom with me? O_o

[Iecerint]

^ I've wanted to come into the bathroom since page 12 or so. Why didn't I ever get a funny face?

[Battousai]

Why do you answer my question with a question?

[mykonian]

thank you for telling. I guess the lurking helps on me

at least, tomorrow I should have for the first time this weak had enough sleep. A reread and a final decision should be done by me. Because I would rather like this day to end.

[Kmd4390]

^ I've wanted to come into the bathroom since page 12 or so. Why didn't I ever get a funny face?

[Battousai]

Still not telling us why you haven't unlocked the door...

[Kmd4390]

I'd like to know why you want in first.

[mykonian]

Because it took that long to get a reaction.

uhm, no I defended quite early. I later attacked you on it.

And why should I seek scum for you?

Um, isn't that the main goal for a townie?

So I seek them for myself. But looker shouldn't ask me who is scum when she doesn't say a thing herself.

I want to lynch Tenchi or Myko. I'd be more than happy to lynch Kreriov. I'd be willing to lynch you. I wouldn't be upset lynching Bitchi, Zt, or Gregory. Anyone else, not my top choice, but I'd take over a no lynch.

4 top picks. not upset by 3. uhm...

ztife would be the "save" lynch for me (in case everything fails), where I expect this to be Tenchi from the rest. I am against a tenchi lynch.

I rather have KMD, or Kreviov at the moment. I think. Need a reread (and sleep), but that should be the general way I'm thinking. I don't want phily anymore.

Funny, I thought you suspected Tenchi. And note the distancing from Kreriov here.

expect me to change it. Though after the discussion with Phily I got more convinced of Tenchi town, mostly by myself. And I am worried by Kreviovs picks.

the problem is, I see scum anywhere, but I don't want to pick 7, like KMD does. So sorry for that post that was too early, maybe I should have stayed calmer. KMD still is top pick for early game, that remains.

[Kreriov]

@Icerint & Phily - The bad case Kmd is pushing is against me. He consistently lists Tenchi, Myko, and I as scum. His cases against either of those two I feel is wrong, but I do follow his logic. It is the one against me that is bad. (Basically he somehow thinks I am partnered with them. I am still not really sure exactly why. At best he is pissed because I was the first to get off the Tenchi wagon and he is reacting with emotion, not logic. At worst, he is scum just stirring up crap.)

At this point I would not be surprised if Myko or Kmd are scum. Both? Well, I don't really see it yet. They certainly have the expertise to set something like this up and carry it through. Without evidence or reason to beleive that, however, its just something to keep in mind.

[Battousai]

It is the only room I haven't gained entrance to yet, that has been uncovered.

[Kmd4390]

I'm not saying GOGOGO Bitchi wagon now. That's just my order of preference. My top 3 are my real suspects. Phily is bothering me a bit, so if I'm wrong on a suspect, he could very well be scum. My next preference is someone not contributing (Bitchi, Zt, Gregory). After that, everyone is pretty townie, so they only get my vote over a no lynch.

[Kmd4390]

@Icerint & Phily - The bad case Kmd is pushing is against me. He consistently lists Tenchi, Myko, and I as scum. His cases against either of those two I feel is wrong, but I do follow his logic. It is the one against me that is bad. (Basically he somehow thinks I am partnered with them. I am still not really sure exactly why. At best he is pissed because I was the first to get off the Tenchi wagon and he is reacting with emotion, not logic. At worst, he is scum just stirring up crap.)

Not at all. You are free to vote who you want, when you want. Just have good reasons for it. You say you unvoted Tenchi due to V/LA. I don't understand why that makes sense. If it did, optimal play for scum would be to go V/LA at every deadline.

It is the only room I haven't gained entrance to yet, that has been uncovered.

Why is it important to go to every room?

[Battousai]

I answered your first question, now you answer me why you won't unlock it.

[Kmd4390]

I answered your first question, now you answer me why you won't unlock it.

Because I don't see a good reason for anyone to come in.