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[SensFan]

@Adel, this post was from

before

we got our roles/alignments.

I'm pretty sure that's Adel's point.

Vote Count 1.1.6, as of post 239

(0) Roleblocker-
(0) Tracker-
(2) PGO- curiouskarmadog, Nuwen
(0) Bus Driver-
(0) None-

not voting:

Seraphim, crywolf, Ren Hoek, vollkan

4 to approve

Deadline for Day 1 is 6 PM EST August 4.

Approved

Tracker

[Yosarian2]

Yos: The only way the PGO poses a threat to the CEO is if he decides to use his one-shot ability to target the unknown PGO

today

. Since we've decided that the CEO shouldn't use his ability unless the CD dies or is otherwise compromised, there's no need for a new appointment to occur today barring the CD's death.

(nods) Yeah, I know. I just wanted to check and see if that was a threat or not, and apparently it is. Just something to keep in mind; i doubt it'll be an issue today.

Yos, you should know better than identifying the PGO. Not only does that neuter his ability to protect the role role he's paired with (either tracker or roleblocker), it allows scum to maneuver their kill to avoid his counter-kill.

Well...someone made a good point that identifying the PGO could be a problem since we won't know if the busdriver is town, and that's very valid; a scum bus driver who knows who the PGO is could lead to...problems.

That being said, if the bus driver is town, then identifying the PGO should completly prevent the scum from killing the CD or the tracker, unless they want to take a huge risk. Nothing else is as safe as "50% chance bus driver re-directs CD to PGO; 50% chance bus driver re-directs tracker to PGO"; that should completly stop the scum from killing either one.

[curiouskarmadog]

vote PGO

[crywolf20084]

v/la until further notice, my incision from my surgery is possibly infected.

[Yosarian2]

Sorry to hear that, cayke, I hope you feel better.

[crywolf20084]

Thanks Yos. Good news is i don't have to go to the hospital and things are getting noticeably better. So not V/LA atm. If things get worse, than maybe back to being in access limbo.

[Nuwen]

many

more details please. and quick.

That's all I've got; my memory is Swiss cheese. If Cay can find logs, nifty. Korts pitched the game in scumchat before typing up his signup thread, so we got to work through drafts and ask about little nuances like the order of action resolution.

Since no one seems to be keeping up with the fake vote count on role choices anyway,

Vote: Paranoid Gun Owner

.

[Nuwen]

Well...someone made a good point that identifying the PGO could be a problem since we won't know if the busdriver is town, and that's very valid; a scum bus driver who knows who the PGO is could lead to...problems.

How so? I'm under the impression that if the busdriver targets the PGO for a switch, the busdriver will be shot by the PGO. Scum or town, it's in the busdriver's survival interest

not

to target any of the creative teams for a switch.

Am I reading the busdriver's role correctly?

[TDC]

If the busdriver busdrives PGO and X he dies.
If the busdriver busdrives X and PGO he doesn't die.

[crywolf20084]

many

more details please. and quick.

That's all I've got; my memory is Swiss cheese. If Cay can find logs, nifty. Korts pitched the game in scumchat before typing up his signup thread, so we got to work through drafts and ask about little nuances like the order of action resolution.

Since no one seems to be keeping up with the fake vote count on role choices anyway,

Vote: Paranoid Gun Owner

.

[11:06:43] Mercuriala: So if I'm understand this right...
[11:07:02] kortskorts: i just see so many mods preparing their intros practically before they even have a good setup
[11:07:06] kortskorts: i'm nervous
[11:07:17] kortskorts: i don't want to half-ass it
[11:07:21] Mercuriala: Both departments are trying to eliminate each other, one using a role-writing mechanic that changes each phase, the other assigning written roles in the latter phase?
[11:07:33] kortskorts: no, they're both part of the town
[11:07:35] Mercuriala: Or are both of these town factions trying to eliminate
[11:07:36] Mercuriala: okay
[11:07:45] Mercuriala: Are they all confirmed town?
[11:07:47] kortskorts: alignment is role independent
[11:08:09] kortskorts: no-one is confirmed town, but the roles are public
[11:08:31] Mercuriala: oh okay, so there are some smalltown elements here too.
[11:08:46] kortskorts: that's what i said, 14p deep south smallton
[11:08:48] unsanitary999: korts
[11:08:49] kortskorts: *w
[11:08:51] unsanitary999: i half ass it all the time
[11:08:54] unsanitary999: don't worry about it
[11:08:59] kortskorts: yeah, but
[11:09:01] Mercuriala: Oh, I only caught the deep south part
[11:09:21] kortskorts: i think i only said deep south the first time around
[11:09:33] kortskorts: eh.
[11:09:42] Mercuriala: I'm pleased with that theme idea
[11:09:49] Mercuriala: I'll definitely be reading along, if not playing
[11:09:53] kortskorts: me too

tadaaaaa

[Nuwen]

If the busdriver busdrives PGO and X he dies.
If the busdriver busdrives X and PGO he doesn't die.

I thought order only mattered for

tracking

purposes. A tracking role would only see the first target. The PGO's role indicates that any player who

targets

him will kick it.

Korts, clarification? If a Busdriver targets the PGO, will order affect whether or not the PGO's ability kills the busdriver?

[Yosarian2]

Well...someone made a good point that identifying the PGO could be a problem since we won't know if the busdriver is town, and that's very valid; a scum bus driver who knows who the PGO is could lead to...problems.

How so? I'm under the impression that if the busdriver targets the PGO for a switch, the busdriver will be shot by the PGO. Scum or town, it's in the busdriver's survival interest

not

to target any of the creative teams for a switch.

Am I reading the busdriver's role correctly?

That's what I thought at first too, but I did check with the mod a few pages ago:

So, the bus driver has to TARGET two players, and if one of them is the PGO, then the bus driver would die, right?

For targeting purposes, only the first target of the Bus Driver is taken into account.

So, it sounds like the second target of the Bus Driver does not cont as a target. So, if I'm reading this right, the bus driver can re-direct someone to the PGO safely.

[Nuwen]

How on Earth did I miss that.

Revising my diagram of doom, one second.

[Goatrevolt]

Driving to the PGO is still a bad plan, regardless. I believe I pointed this out already.

If the Bus Driver drives to the PGO, then the tracker can't target anyone who could possibly be the Bus Driver's primary target or they will seriously risk getting PGOwned. So, if someone like FL or Scot is scum, then they could make the kill without having to worry about the tracker targeting them.

[Korts]

Vote Count 1.1.6

(0) Roleblocker-
(0) Tracker-
(2) PGO- curiouskarmadog, Nuwen
(0) Bus Driver-
(0) None-

not voting:

Seraphim, crywolf, Ren Hoek, vollkan

4 to approve

Deadline for Day 1 is 6 PM EST August 4.

Approved

Tracker

[crywolf20084]

Vote: PGO

[Seraphim]

Should I hammer?

[crywolf20084]

May as well the town p much agrees.

[Seraphim]

Vote: PGO

[Korts]

Vote Count 1.1.7

(0) Roleblocker-
(0) Tracker-
(4) PGO- curiouskarmadog, Nuwen, crywolf, Seraphim
(0) Bus Driver-
(0) None-

not voting:

Ren Hoek, vollkan

4 to approve

Deadline for Day 1 is 6 PM EST August 4.

Paranoid Gun Owner ability has been approved.

[Korts]

Vote Count 1.1.8

(0) Roleblocker-
(0) Tracker-
(0) Bus Driver-
(0) None-

not voting:

Ren Hoek, vollkan, curiouskarmadog, Nuwen, crywolf, Seraphim

4 to approve

Deadline for Day 1 is 6 PM EST August 4.

Approved

Tracker, PGO

[curiouskarmadog]

vote bus driver.

[curiouskarmadog]

FL, thoughts?

[FaerieLord]

Thoughts regarding what? I already said that I think adel's plan was the best one. I didn't like sera asking before the hammer, and hammering just after one answer, but I think I may be reaching on this one.

[curiouskarmadog]

well, you wanted everyone to "fake" vote...but there was little to no response to that...I wondered what your thoughts were on that.