Well, this seems to be the least violent prod yet...
hasdgfas wrote:image wrote:I too am suspicious of Elvis for reasons Empking can't recall; this seems like a very iron-clad case, and I'm wondering why Elvis hasn't been lynched yet.[/sarcasm]
I'm leery of an Empking lynch because he hasn't done anything scummy; more generally, he hasn't done anything. It seems like it is going to give the scum a free ride through day two. That being said, Empking, if you're going to continue playing like this (or not playing, as the case may be) then you will be a necessary lynch today. So please, if you are town, be more helpful.
SCUMMY POST ALERT.
First off, we have the /sarcasm tag. While I understand that people use this, I always find it scummy, because one thing that I've found is that subconsciously, scum want to tell you they're scum, and will say something only scum would say, but hide it as a joke.
However, that pales compared to the second part. Full wishy-washiness on Empking. "empking's not scummy, but he's also not town because he's not here. oh, and empking, be helpful if you're town. This entire post REEKS of scum hinting to their buddy that they have to bus them, or at the very least, scum trying to act town by telling the town lurker to be more helpful.
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"I too am suspicious of Y for reasons Empking can't recall" seems, to me, like something not even a scum would want to say seriously, subconsciously or otherwise. This is the problem I have with Empking's play: it doesn't even fit with how I would expect the most transparent scum to behave; it just seems like bad play. It is not providing any reasoning, merely an assertion. And this is my ultimate problem with Empking: he has not done enough, one way or another, for me to get any sort of read on his alignment, and from my understanding of his meta, he plays this way regardless of his alignment. It seems to me like lynching him would yield an n/11 chance of hitting scum, where n is the number of scum in the game.
I ask Empking to talk more not because I know his alignment and want to look good for helping the town lurker out/warning my buddy I'm going to bus him/whatever, but simply because if he talks more, I can try to gauge his alignment. I would certainly
not
take an increase in his posting, on its own, as any indication of towniness.
Of course, if Empking continues to post as little as this, I very much don't want him around in endgame. Yes, I realise I'm flip-flopping. This is because I simply don't know how to deal with a player like Empking.
@Empking: Yesterday, when both the PP wagon and the Pesco wagon were roughly the same size and we were nearing deadline, you joined the PP wagon, stating a reason that applied to both equally. Why?
X wrote:Why are people voting Juls instead of Empking? As far as I see, all of the reasons for Juls to be scum amount to buddying with Empking. And if we're wrong about them being buddies together, I'd prefer to remove Empking from the game than Juls.
If I understand correctly, people are voting Juls because her interaction with and attitude towards Empking seem unnatural. If Empking flips town, I don't see this as dispelling arguments against Juls, no more than I would see Empking flipping scum as confirming them. Something weird has been going on between Juls and Empking.
So, who do I find suspicious at the moment? Juls for weird interaction with Empking.
Also, Forbiddanlight for some weird play yesterday: she spent most of the day pushing an Emp wagon, while making small attacks at VPB, EK, and Pesco, putting these four as her top four vig's. She then places PP as her second pick for a lynch, conveniently right around the time he becomes the second largest wagon. It seems a bit like she is trying to cover all of her bases, making sure to cover all of yesterdays major vote-getters with blanket suspicion that will allow her to reasonably jump on any of those wagons should it become large enough.
Empking would not be an unacceptable lynch, but I do not see this as the ideal lynch; at least, not yet.
"Have you noticed how people's intellectual curiosity declines sharply the moment they start waving guns about?"
--The Doctor
I also brought it up once before, glad you were paying attention. 
