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[TDC]

I just noticed that the busdriver would be busdriving the protectee to someone else and not to himself anyway, so that scum wouldn't know whom to kill to get the protectee, duh.

So whether he can self-target is moot.

[Seraphim]

Seraphim's first post in the QT stated that one player on the team was scum.

The thought hadn't occurred to me, I hadn't read the rules yet. Now I read the rules, but I'm still somewhat unclear on the concept.

Seraphim knew right off the bat that there was scum in our group.

Misrepping at its finest. I never stated I knew there were scum. I asked, and I quote "Are any of you scum?" This was a JOKE to get discussion started. I never stated that and your blanant misrepping is FAR more scummy than anything I have done. I know exactly who to vote once we get to the voting phase.

@Nuwen

How is my "oppurtunism" any more oppurtunistic than Ren's? Ren, in our quick topic and here, has accused three different players of being scum.

Also, what makes you "certain" I am scum?

[Ren Hoek]

Seraphim's first post in the QT stated that one player on the team was scum.

The thought hadn't occurred to me, I hadn't read the rules yet. Now I read the rules, but I'm still somewhat unclear on the concept.

Seraphim knew right off the bat that there was scum in our group.

Misrepping at its finest. I never stated I knew there were scum. I asked, and I quote "Are any of you scum?" This was a JOKE to get discussion started. I never stated that and your blanant misrepping is FAR more scummy than anything I have done. I know exactly who to vote once we get to the voting phase.

I'm looking for the misrep.

I can't find it.

[Seraphim]

You stated that I stated that I knew that there was scum in our group. I can't find that either.

[Ren Hoek]

You asked if any of us were scum.

I had no idea what sort of masonry I was in, the PM doesn't name or most importantly enumerate the other members.

I strutted into the QT without a clue.

The last thing on my mind would be to barge in and ask who is scum, not knowing how many others there were, what we were doing, etc.

It was YOUR first thought.

[Seraphim]

You asked if any of us were scum.

I had no idea what sort of masonry I was in, the PM doesn't name or most importantly enumerate the other members.

I strutted into the QT without a clue.

The last thing on my mind would be to barge in and ask who is scum, not knowing how many others there were, what we were doing, etc.

It was YOUR first thought.

I do tend to wonder who is scum, yes. I always figured that hunting scum was one of the points of mafia. So, I thought I would ask if anyone in our group was scum. It may be the last thing on your mind but I fail to understand how this implicates me as scum.

You have still failed to prove that I KNOW there is scum in Accounting. I'll get to Nuwen's post later.

[Seraphim]

I can already say with certainty that Seraphim is scum. Our interaction in the QT makes it obvious:

Ren seizes Scot's "mostly random" bit.
Seraphim parrots "Exactly my thoughts. We definitely need to pursue this."

Wait, hold on. I "parroted" Ren? Where did I "parrot" Ren? If I recall, in the game and the quick topic, I was not only the first to notice it but the first to start attacking Scot for it. Reading is tech.

Seraphim asks "Do you think we've caught scum in Scot?"
Cay says both are overreacting.
Ren asks if she's explaining well enough, clarifies mounting case
Seraphim: Overreacting is fun! And we can replace him anyway
Cay continues to call Ren's case a stretch.
Ren implies Cay's only reason to attack the case so hard is that Cay is scum with Scot.
Seraphim calls Ren's newer accusations against Cay a reach and is now game for lynching either Ren or Scot, Ren preferred.

Opportunism at its finest.

I still fail to understand how I am somehow scummier from this exchange than Ren. And do you agree that Ren's case against Cayke is reaching?

[Ren Hoek]

You have still failed to prove that I KNOW there is scum in Accounting. I'll get to Nuwen's post later.

I can't prove that you did.

I rather believe that you did.

[Ren Hoek]

BTW, you yourself implied that *I* must have KNOWN that you're scum, after I suggested that you just confessed scum.

[Adel]

I figured out that role assignments should be Tracker, bussdriver, PGO.
scot should assign PGO+Tracker to the same creative team, and busdriver to another.

The busdriver should target any two players who aren't a member of the other creative teams. The busdriver should not tell his creative team partner who he targeted until the next day when a full disclosure of all movements is made.

The scum will be limited to targeting a player who isn't on a creative team (for fear of hitting the PGO, or outing that they knew who the PGO was) and either the CEO or the CD will be a likely target for the busdriver.

Essentially, this plan will tie the scum hands to killing a member of the accounting team, the most vanilla members of this game.

[Seraphim]

BTW, you yourself implied that *I* must have KNOWN that you're scum, after I suggested that you just confessed scum.

I think you're bullshitting.

And if you know I'm scum, clearly, judging by your previous arguments, YOU must be scum therefore.

[Seraphim]

Allow me to restate that. If you knew that I was scum, you must be scum.

[Adel]

so these people:

• vollkan - Head of Account Services
  crywolf20084 - Account Executive
  Ren Hoek - Account Executive
  Nuwen - Account Executive
  Seraphim - Account Executive
  curiouskarmadog - Account Executive

can read the QT where this took place right?

How about Ren & Seraphy stop flooding the thread until the other accounting people weigh in?

[Seraphim]

I think the CEO is also privy to the quicktopic. But yes, I'm willing to comment on the task at hand.

That's a gutsy plan. If you were the Creative Director, who would get which abilities?

[Ren Hoek]

That's a gutsy plan. If you were the Creative Director, who would get which abilities?

Answers to this question would be gold for the scum, if they assume that a significant proportion of these answers would be carried out.

I suggest that it be left unanswered, in the tradition of "don't direct the vig."

[Ren Hoek]

How about Ren & Seraphy stop flooding the thread until the other accounting people weigh in?

Roger. I will say no more.

[Seraphim]

That's a gutsy plan. If you were the Creative Director, who would get which abilities?

Answers to this question would be gold for the scum, if they assume that a significant proportion of these answers would be carried out.

I suggest that it be left unanswered, in the tradition of "don't direct the vig."

I think Adel is perfectly capable of deciding for himself if he wants to answer that question or not.

And you know what they say...assume makes an ass out of you and me.

[crywolf20084]

so these people:

• vollkan - Head of Account Services
  crywolf20084 - Account Executive
  Ren Hoek - Account Executive
  Nuwen - Account Executive
  Seraphim - Account Executive
  curiouskarmadog - Account Executive

can read the QT where this took place right?

How about Ren & Seraphy stop flooding the thread until the other accounting people weigh in?

Correct, and I see nothing wrong with what Ren said about Sera. specificly:

Seraphim's first post in the QT stated that one player on the team was scum.

The thought hadn't occurred to me, I hadn't read the rules yet. Now I read the rules, but I'm still somewhat unclear on the concept.

Seraphim knew right off the bat that there was scum in our group.

I read that him wanting to know who was scum, as if he *knew* there was scum in our group.

That's a gutsy plan. If you were the Creative Director, who would get which abilities?

Why in gods name would you privy that information?

[Adel]

I suggest that it be left unanswered, in the tradition of "don't direct the vig."

i agree.

[Adel]

That's a gutsy plan.

what is "gutsy" about it?

[Seraphim]

Earlier in the thread, the "safe" bet was to take two trackers and a roleblock. You are suggesting something radically different.

[Adel]

Earlier in the thread, the "safe" bet was to take two trackers and a roleblock. You are suggesting something radically different.

why were you happy to go along with that consensus?

[Seraphim]

Earlier in the thread, the "safe" bet was to take two trackers and a roleblock. You are suggesting something radically different.

why were you happy to go along with that consensus?

I thought it to be a solid opening plan for the first day.

[Adel]

why? which alternatives did you consider and why did you reject them?

[Seraphim]

why? which alternatives did you consider and why did you reject them?

No alternatives were considered at that time, or at least not in any of the channels I saw.

I did consider, briefly, a roleblocker, tracker, and Bus Driver combo but thought the double trackers provided a better option. Chances are, at least one of the trackers would end up in town hands.