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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:16 am

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Christ.
Porkens wrote:Have I missed something or does it just boil down to "he changes his vote a lot for reasons I don't think are good"?
VP Baltar wrote:Honestly, I'm just trying to be fair in my questioning. Nothing has changed me wanting Santos dead at this point. It's pretty obvious what my stance on your vote swapping is, but perhaps
you could put a little bit of an effort into answering their posts.
Things like quoting and explaining reasoning further are always good.

Clar, last post 4 days ago.
Porkens, last post a day ago.

Chiarosicada, why, towards the end of the day, in post 373 you quoted me make me the entire reason why I must be lynched? Because of exactly what I said? That's frickin hilarious that I would instigate my own death by saying that because that was purely my intention! :)
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:17 am

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Zorblag wrote:Mod Note: As per the rules, prods are given if a player goes three days without posting or a prod is requested. Claramata has been prodded as of this morning PDT (i.e. post 337.)
I would at least expect a courtesy post from an IC instead of a lurking IC before I die today if I'm truly the one to die today.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:18 am

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Chiar wrote:I'm willing to hammer Santos. I want Clara to post on both Santos and Porkens though, and I'm willing to wait until deadline for her or her replacement to respond.
I believe this is a smart play.

@Santos--I need to look at that one specific quote, but if I did indeed misread it, I withdraw that point.

Regarding you throwing a hissy fit and demanding I restate the case against you, sorry but you can read the thread. That's where the proof is at.

I think it is funny how you are now acting like you did the town a favor by putting ein at L-1. The reason he wanted "throw in the towel" as you say is because you guys were railroading him over complete BS and he was acting like a noob. I have a strong feeling that if I had prevented it, he would have been a mislynch. You did not help the situation at all, so please stop trying to claim that you did.

I'll fetch your quotes later after I eat dinner.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:18 am

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Santos wrote:He wanted to throw in the towel, but I put him at L-1 to make him participate, not to just lynch him.
If you put a player at L-1, you're forcing him to claim. This is ok if you find him scummy enough to lynch, but if you want him to just participate more, there are better ways. Ein had enough pressure at L-2.

I think it was VP and I that got him to participate.
VP wrote:You're not lynched Einlanzers. I'm actually arguing against it, but you're not helping by being pouty and saying you want to quit. I know it's not fun when everyone's on your case, but that's part of the game. All you can do is answer questions and state who you find suspicious and why.

Sometimes you get lynched for bad reasons or because you say something that came out wrong. It just happened to me in a game I was in with Porkens. You just can't take it personally and have to keep playing the game as best as you can.
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Frankly, it's difficult for me to tell whether you're newbie town or newbie scum. Either way, rolling over and giving up because you're at L-1 isn't going to help your cause. Please try to answer the questions other players have asked you, because your answers will help the town even if you end up lynched today.

I definitely don't buy your case against my predecessor. Why do you think johnny (now me, Chiarosicada) is scum?
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:20 am

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So if you and VP are advocating not lynching Ein because he is not scummy, would those certainly be pro town traits?
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:21 am

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Also, your accusations of Porkens lurking or 'needs to come say something before your death' are pretty ridiculous if he just posted yesterday. Not everyone is on the computer all day long. we have several days until deadline, I am quite certain he will post.
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:22 am

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Oh, 'active lurking' Sorry.
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:23 am

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Porkens wrote:Have I missed something or does it just boil down to "he changes his vote a lot for reasons I don't think are good"?
"he changes his vote a lot for reasons I don't think are good"?
Quality post from an IC. Even though you and I are against each other this day, he certainly contradicts what is supposed to be 'helpful' in a newbie game.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:23 am

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It's not active lurking either. Do your homework. He hasn't posted anywhere on the site since that post, ie he hasn't even been on MS to read what you've been saying about him.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:24 am

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Dude, I've been talking about him this entire DAY
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:25 am

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*facepalm*

I'm going to make falafel. I'll check back later.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:25 am

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Santos wrote:Chiarosicada, why, towards the end of the day, in post 373 you quoted me make me the entire reason why I must be lynched? Because of exactly what I said? That's frickin hilarious that I would instigate my own death by saying that because that was purely my intention!
Well, perhaps you didn't know that it would instigate your death? The fact that you thought your statement was innocuous (whether you're scum or town) doesn't mean everyone else will think the same thing.

If scum never made mistakes, mafia would just be a game of chance.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:27 am

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Chiarosicada wrote:If scum never made mistakes, mafia would just be a game of chance.
What is a mistake? You're implying what I said to be a scum mistake? :) Doesn't that seem a bit of a stretch to make?
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:00 pm

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Unvote

Vote: Porkens


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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:50 pm

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Vote Count 1.14

The numbers by the voters indicate the order in which the vote was cast. If two or more players are tied for the most votes to lynch at the deadline the tiebreaker will be the player who has the earliest active vote.

Santos: 4: Porkens (15), Head_Honcho (17), VP Baltar (18), jammer (25)
Porkens: 4: Chiarosicada (23), Hurleys_Van (24), Einlanzers (27), Santos (28)

Not voting: Claramata

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Currently Santos would be lynched at deadline. Deadline is 6:00 PM EDT/3:00 PM PDT on Tuesday, July 7th.

Mod Note: As a reminder, the deadline is this coming Tuesday. The following weekend includes the Fourth of July so activity might be low but I won't extend the deadline for that, however if we end up needing a replacement today I will extend the deadline to 3 days past when someone replaces in.


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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:27 pm

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You're jumping on anyone you can to save yourself.
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:12 pm

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And you're not doing anything today. Do something.
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:14 pm

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are we serious? People keep citing "hammer ein and be a town hero", do we not realize that was a joke? Did we not see the context? Why are we talking about ein as an undisputed townie just because he didn't get lynched?

Porkens case makes little to no sense. I'd prefer to see santos strung up just because that's the way we're going, but chia's just posting so fishy that that I would almost rather lynch him. He keeps throwing out these vague claims about which bandwagon is scummier, and is hedging his bets to lynch anyone (i.e. omg I would lynch 4 people! post). Additionally, I don't know, I get the feeling he's just being careful while trying to get his foot in the door on every possible lynch. I especially didn't like when he popped in and told Jammer how much he liked his posting, especially when jammer flips wagons in almost the same manner porkens did, but chia disregarded it because... He seemed less convinced of the lynch in the first place?

This is ridiculous. Santos, you didn't remove your vote because Ein posted, you removed it beforehand because you caught flack. You keep twisting the facts and I want to lynch you so hard. If santos flips town, I think chia is probably scum. I suppose I'm slightly biased, but I find it suspicious that Santos is acting so scummy yet people are reluctant to hammer him. I may have mentioned earlier that I didn't necessarily think scum was on the bandwagon, and that's because I'm slightly worried that Santos is just a really scummy looking townie so people want to be able to go 'drat!' tomorrow and wash their hands of his lynch. I must know his role though.

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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:16 pm

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And you're not doing anything today. Do something.
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:21 pm

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Whoops, double post.
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:24 pm

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Actually,
unvote
calling it. Chia/Jammer. Read over their games, see their interactions.

vote: chiarosicada
I am not as certain about jammer, he is not reciprocating the love as much as chia's giving it.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:47 pm

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Whoa, you just opened a whole new can of worms...care to elaborate on why you'd change it now this close to the deadline?
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:01 pm

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H_H, why is no one hammering Santos necessarily a bad thing?

The reason I didn't hammer Santos before is becouse I wanted to hear from Porkens something besides one liners and especially from Clara who may even have forgotten about the game by now.
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:35 pm

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I think clara is a lost cause. Jammer: I typed that post out basically without any revision, so I'm definitely going to try to clarify it a bunch later, I'm gonna need to put some time in to get that sorted out though so I'm gonna try to do it tomorrow.

Deadline's approaching though and I've been getting a really bad feeling about lynching Santos for some reason. I really, really felt like he was scum earlier, and it's hard to get this close to a lynch and then back off, but I'm becoming more and more convinced this is just how he plays, especially as the game goes on and I'm getting more used to how he posts.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:04 am

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Clara has like an half an hour to post, or to be replaced. :|

Looking forward to the reasoning for your switch so close to deadline. I doubt it will have any effect on my vote, though.

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