Mini 807 - Save the Mafia! (Game Over!)

[xRECKONERx]

CoCo needs to claim or I'll hammer.

[canadianbovine]

you just unvoted saying not to hammer him.
[quote=xRx]
CoCo needs to claim or I'll hammer. [/claim]

WHAT THE HELL, BATMAN?

[canadianbovine]

quotes fail i know

[Wickedestjr]

I mean that he should kill every chance he gets. Waiting to be positive (unless you're a 1-shot) is suboptimal play for a vig.

He's a five shot I think. Which will most likely be enough, but otherwise, why would you want the vig to take the risk of killing town? Do you think that he should kill if he isn't positive of who's scum or not?

[xRECKONERx]

Because I'm tired of how long Day 1 is. I went back and re-read, and I'm down for a Wicked or a CoCo lynch today.

[CoCo]

I am the

Mafia Spy

. Here to weed out those that have infiltrated us. In other words, my role is that of cop.

My scum list has consistently included DRK and Wicked. DRK for being in on every bandwagon, and Wicked for general scummy play. I also suspect Lobster, but I'm on the fence about it, although he did begin the CB bandwagon early in the game.

My playstyle has always seemed scummy. Eventually, in other places I play, its lead to me being a very hard to read player. This is my first game on this site, so I suppose that's why I'm under the gun right now. Some of the things I've said have been sarcastic, but the truth is, I've NEVER faced this much Day 1 pressure.

If this had taken place on Day 2 (as it has in the past), I'd know the flavor of vanilla townies and gambit by claiming that.

To put it in baseball terms, I can throw a good fastball, but its the curveball I've made my own.

[canadianbovine]

/headtodesk

this day will never end.

[ryan2754]

Ugh. RL calls again. It's late, I'm tired. I GUARANTEE a read tomorrow night.

[xRECKONERx]

Shit. Vig AND Cop out on D1? Not. Good.

We need a mass unvoting, and we need to figure out who is driving these wagons to L-1 for the claims. I was never confident on the CoCo wagon. Also, quick look shows:

Vote Count:

xRECKONERx – 5 (My Milked Eek,

lobstermania

, Conspicuous_other,

DeathRowKitty, nohandtyper

)
Wolframnhart – 1 (ChannelDelibird)
Wickedestjr - 1 (wolframnhart)
DeathRowKitty – 1 (CoCo)
Conspicuous_other – 1 (Wickedestjr)
qax42 – 1 (canadianbovine)


Not voting:

qax42, xRECKONERx

Vote Count:

CoCo – 6 (

nohandtyper

,

DeathRowKitty, lobstermania

, Wickedestjr, ChannelDelibird, canadianbovine)
canadianbovine – 1 (qwints)
Wickedestjr – 1 (CoCo)


Not voting:

ryan2754, Conspicuous_other, My Milked Eek, xRECKONERx

Notice the bold. Three people who were on both wagons to lead up to the two claims. NHT, DRK, and lobster.

[canadianbovine]

you weren't confident with the wagon on Coco, but you were about to hammer him, AND you were a part of the wagon before.

i'm getting sick of your contradictions Reckoner.

[ChannelDelibird]

Vote stands until CoCo does the first two things I asked of him.

[Conspicuous_other]

@ CoCo:

Provide flavor without quoting, please.

[stuntkeyboardist]

Okay,

unvote

. With the possibility of CoCo being Mafia Spy, I'd rather not have him at L1, but I also agree with CDB. I want answers. Please, for the love of God CoCo, just answer what was asked of you. You know, the same questions that have been asked for the past week (RT)...

No matter what you say or how you relate it to baseball, I still dont understand why you're trying to hold back useful information from the town.

[PsychoSniper]

Vote Count:

CoCo – 5 (DeathRowKitty, lobstermania, Wickedestjr, ChannelDelibird, canadianbovine)
canadianbovine – 1 (qwints)
Wickedestjr – 1 (CoCo)


Not voting:

nohandtyper, ryan2754, Conspicuous_other, My Milked Eek, xRECKONERx

[qwints]

unvote

Oops, didn't notice my predecessor had a vote out.

I really don't like Reckoner's post bemoaning the two claims: first, as has already been noted, he was ready to hammer. Second, stating the obvious in the way he did "Vig and cop out on D1, not good" feels scummy.

I also think it's strange we hit two strong power roles on our first two role claims. I don't think it's likely that both are true.

[xRECKONERx]

I don't like how CoCo hasn't provided flavor, actually. I don't know how I feel about this "Mafia Spy" business... but I'd feel much safer with a Wicked, NHT, or lobster lynch.

[DeathRowKitty]

Unvote

. For now. But I still want answers on what's been asked of you.

Three people who were on both wagons to lead up to the two claims. NHT, DRK, and lobster.

but I'd feel much safer with a Wicked, NHT, or lobster lynch.

I'm not asking to be put on your list but why aren't I there?

[xRECKONERx]

I considered putting you on there, but for some reason I've gotten a very pro-town vibe from you throughout the game. I cannot say the same for NHT or lobster.

[stuntkeyboardist]

xRx, can I just ask why you suspect both lobster and I? Just because we voted for you and CoCo doesnt mean that we're scum. I think it's easy to see that both were suspicious, and dont forget the fact that there were other people who voted for them too. Just because their vote wasnt on you or CoCo at L1, you're saying that they arent suspicious? I think you're being a bit narrow minded at the moment.

[stuntkeyboardist]

EBWOP: or wicked? You've never really voiced your opinion in any of the three of us, but you think we're scummy because we vote. Please explain.

[xRECKONERx]

I've... never voiced my opinion on Wicked?

lololololololololwut

[CoCo]

Vote Count:

canadianbovine - 5 (

nohandtyper

, Wickedestjr, xRECKONERx,

lobstermania

,

DeathRowKitty

)
nohandtyper - 1 (Conspicuous_other)
Wickedestjr - 1 (wolframnhart)
lobstermania - 1 (ChannelDelibird,)


Not voting:

My Milked Eek, qax42, CoCo, canadianbovine

This too, Reckoner.

The "weed out those that have infiltrated us" is flavor to my claim. I'll add "because the power base has been infiltrated, I'll have to put my skills to use once more."

I'll be back after I figure out what the hell kind of answer you people expect from the other questions. Honestly, I'm getting tired of trying to be honest only to be told its not fucking good enough.

[ChannelDelibird]

Vote stands until CoCo does the first two things I asked of him.

[qwints]

xRx, can I just ask why you suspect both lobster and I? Just because we voted for you and CoCo doesnt mean that we're scum. I think it's easy to see that both were suspicious, and dont forget the fact that there were other people who voted for them too. Just because their vote wasnt on you or CoCo at L1, you're saying that they arent suspicious? I think you're being a bit narrow minded at the moment.

This seems overly defensive to me; The same 3 people on 3 bandwagons is worth looking into.

vote: nohandtyper

[ChannelDelibird]

Overly defensive is NOT a scumtell. Town should get defensive as much as scum.

Rejecting the premise of a good argument is, though, and that is what NHT has done.

FoS: nohandtyper