The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

ZazieR · Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:47 am

I''m not sure, but does this site tell us that it can be used or not?

Pyromaniac · Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:52 am

I know. That is why it won't work. We should try it anyways though.

Pyromaniac · Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:53 am

You shouldn't, according to wikipedia, be able to fit a 8-bore shell into a 12 bore shotgun.

ZazieR · Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:55 am

It''s the other way around.
We have a 8-bore shotgun and a 12 bore shell.

Stephoscope · Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:55 am

For the love of God...

I am Janine. I am an investigative reporter, and am Innocent.

I can check one player each night, and learn his or her role and alignment.

I investigated Naomi last night. Her roleclaim was legitimate. She is Trilby.

Please protect me tonight.

ZazieR · Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:03 am

Isn''t Innocent the same as Vanilla Townie?

Xtoxm · Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:04 am

Not buying it.

Devestation · Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:06 am

unvote

Иисус Христос.

ZazieR · Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:10 am

Devestation wrote:
unvote

Иисус Христос.

What did you write in that foreign language?
And do you agree or disagree with post 2155 and why?

Xtoxm · Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:11 am

"Jesus Christ"

Setael · Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:46 am

One thing Steph's claim makes clear is that Naomi is town. Either Steph is telling the truth and Naomi's claim is true, or Steph is scum who knows Naomi is telling the truth about her claim and is therefore using this to "confirm" himself.

Steph certainly shouldn't be killed today just in case he's telling the truth. He should be allowed at least one more night's investigation and Naomi should use her investigation tonight to. Those who were planning on a Naomi wagon need to decide on a new lynch candidate.

mod: is Amished being replaced?

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:54 am

He should be, but I forgot to request the replacement. >_>

populartajo · Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:55 am

Cop claim.

Im leaning to believe it. It could explain why Steph suddenly changed her mind about Naomi. I also dont see scum confirming someone that was so easy to lynch. Why did you investigate her? How did you get your result?

Xtoxm, why dont you believe it?

ZazieR · Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:55 am

Setael wrote:One thing Steph's claim makes clear is that Naomi is town. Either Steph is telling the truth and Naomi's claim is true, or Steph is scum who knows Naomi is telling the truth about her claim and is therefore using this to "confirm" himself.

Steph certainly shouldn't be killed today just in case he's telling the truth. He should be allowed at least one more night's investigation and Naomi should use her investigation tonight to. Those who were planning on a Naomi wagon need to decide on a new lynch candidate.

mod: is Amished being replaced?

I believe that either Amished or Stepho is lying. Amished mentioned ''the Gatekeeper'' with his claim. Nothing about being Innocent, while Stepho did.
Also, the role PM says ''

an

Innocent''. I don''t believe that somebody can both be a role an an innocent, as I think ''an innocent'' = townie. Therefore, I think he''s lying.

The thing is that as of now, only Naomi and Amished can confirm this.

Xtoxm · Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:58 am

"I am an investigative reporter, and am Innocent."

Innocent means VT. He scum with a botched up claim.

Apart from that, what rolecop gets alignment too? That's not how it works...He scum. Kill plox.

ZazieR · Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:02 am

Xtoxm wrote:"I am an investigative reporter, and am Innocent."

Innocent means VT. He scum with a botched up claim.

Apart from that, what rolecop gets alignment too? That's not how it works...He scum. Kill plox.

Tox, in all those games that I have been mean to you, please forgive me <3
He''s caught scum. Vig ahead please.

Stephoscope · Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:04 am

My PM provides my role and my alignment. I learn others' role and alignment when I investigate, as I made clear.

It should be obvious why I investigated Naomi.

I don't think it's WIFOM to say my actions between yesterday and today would have made no sense if I were scum. Why would I have tried so hard to save Naomi after my attacks on her yesterday?

Stephoscope · Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:05 am

Knight of Cydonia wrote:3. Innocents win if they destroy all Evil players. The Evil characters win when they have a majority, and are deemed powerful enough to over-power any and all remaining factions.

ZazieR · Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:10 am

Stephoscope wrote:My PM provides my role and my alignment. I learn others' role and alignment when I investigate, as I made clear.

It should be obvious why I investigated Naomi.

I don't think it's WIFOM to say my actions between yesterday and today would have made no sense if I were scum. Why would I have tried so hard to save Naomi after my attacks on her yesterday?

Allignment? It only says that I''m an innocent. You''re caught scum.

ZazieR · Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:11 am

Stephoscope wrote:
Knight of Cydonia wrote:3. Innocents win if they destroy all Evil players. The Evil characters win when they have a majority, and are deemed powerful enough to over-power any and all remaining factions.

How nice of you.
If this is true, there are no powerroles.
Three scum caught already then.

Stephoscope · Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:13 am

ZazieR wrote:
Stephoscope wrote:
Knight of Cydonia wrote:3. Innocents win if they destroy all Evil players. The Evil characters win when they have a majority, and are deemed powerful enough to over-power any and all remaining factions.
How nice of you.
If this is true, there are no powerroles.
Three scum caught already then.

Are you out of your mind?

ZazieR · Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:16 am

Stephoscope wrote:
ZazieR wrote:
Stephoscope wrote:
Knight of Cydonia wrote:3. Innocents win if they destroy all Evil players. The Evil characters win when they have a majority, and are deemed powerful enough to over-power any and all remaining factions.
How nice of you.
If this is true, there are no powerroles.
Three scum caught already then.
Are you out of your mind?

Nope.

Setael · Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:17 am

In my opinion, only scum would push for a Stepho vig right now. Yes, there's a chance he's lying. Only scum know for sure if he is or not. However, if he's telling the truth and we vig him we have lost a key power role. No townie will be sure enough he is lying to push his vig through.

FOS: zazier and xtoxm

@Stepho - is there anything in your role pm that indicates your power will diminish at any point like amished claimed his will? Also, once amished claimed yesterday, why didn't you claim (especially when it looked like you might be the deadline lynch)?

Stephoscope · Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:19 am

ZazieR wrote:
Stephoscope wrote:
ZazieR wrote:
Stephoscope wrote:
Knight of Cydonia wrote:3. Innocents win if they destroy all Evil players. The Evil characters win when they have a majority, and are deemed powerful enough to over-power any and all remaining factions.
How nice of you.
If this is true, there are no powerroles.
Three scum caught already then.
Are you out of your mind?
Nope.

I think you are, if you're convinced that:

- that rule actually spells out that there are no power roles
- the roleclaims of Amished, Naomi, and myself are all false (I am 99% convinced that they are all legit)
- a game like this would have no town power roles

Come on now.

Stephoscope · Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:21 am

Setael wrote:In my opinion, only scum would push for a Stepho vig right now. Yes, there's a chance he's lying. Only scum know for sure if he is or not. However, if he's telling the truth and we vig him we have lost a key power role. No townie will be sure enough he is lying to push his vig through.

FOS: zazier and xtoxm

@Stepho - is there anything in your role pm that indicates your power will diminish at any point like amished claimed his will? Also, once amished claimed yesterday, why didn't you claim (especially when it looked like you might be the deadline lynch)?

No, I have nothing like that. And I was certainly prepared to claim if put at L-1. I was waiting accordingly this time around too, but decided it was time to go ahead and claim when people started saying "just try it" and things like that with no one having brought up that I should have a chance to claim.