Open 131 - Nightless Vanilla (Over) before 767

[Furry]

I am always concerned about getting lynched as town since it really doesnt help the town. Sure scumhunting is priority one, but not getting lynched is pretty high up there as well.

So you're concerned about town getting lynched, but don't give a damn about town getting modkilled?

I can actively stop myself from being lynched, I can actively stop others from being lynched. Replacements being modkilled are beyond my control.

[Netlava]

Nor will you like the tone of this:

Stop being dismissive and actually defend yourself. That you don't like what you're getting is not an excuse.

Correct. Now run along.

[Netlava]

Shocker. You wouldn't like that considering I'm calling out what you said as pretty anti-town. Messing around is pretty stupid in my opinion.

Hmm... I meant that I found the tone of it kinda scummy.

[Netlava]

You've now just

proved yourself scum

by trying to

strengthen the very weak connection between me and Jazmynn.

And by not liking the tone of this, I meant that:

a) "proved yourself scum" followed by "we can have our differences" seems like a drastic difference
b) "strengthen the very weak connection" as opposed to make it seem like there is some sort of scumteam connection in the first place

[Netlava]

Bleh, that was really unclear. Basically, I don't like the "strengthen the very weak connection" part. Catch my drift?

[Netlava]

Stop being dismissive and actually defend yourself.

Oh yeah, my defense is in post 924. Notice how empking is trying to make me look bad.

[Lowell]

@skitzer- I don't understand the mastin vote. So it's your contention that the TWO leading wagons yesterday were both scum? So in a game with 4/11 scum we had at least 8/11 voting

for

scum? Keep in mind the scum likely can't talk to each other since there's no night phase... you think they all suddenly decided to bus each other?

[skitzer]

Only replying to Lowell's post for now. Will get to the other stuff later.

I don't see what's so wrong with that. Mastin was voting for hewitt: not a major case. Empking was voting for me: not a major case. Jazzmyn wasn't voting: nuff said. There was likely some bussing. My Mastin vote is because he made the biggest attempt to derail the Empking wagon.

[Lowell]

I feel like you tried pretty hard to not lynch emp yourself...

[StrangerCoug]

Stop being dismissive and actually defend yourself.

Oh yeah, my defense is in post 924. Notice how empking is trying to make me look bad.

How does asking for your feelings do that?

[Furry]

My Mastin vote is because he made the biggest attempt to derail the Empking wagon.

So you voted for the player you thought was derailing a wagon. This means you saw it as a scumtell which means you saw Emp as scum. However this also means instead of voting for scum, you voted for the player trying to dereail a scum wagon. While derailing a scum wagon is a scum tell, ive seen town do it before on bad reads.

[hewitt]

Shocker. You wouldn't like that considering I'm calling out what you said as pretty anti-town. Messing around is pretty stupid in my opinion.

Hmm... I meant that I found the tone of it kinda scummy.

Oh I know that, or at least I knew that would be your reasoning. My point is of course you would call it scummy because it's directed at you. The tone isn't scummy at all.

You've now just

proved yourself scum

by trying to

strengthen the very weak connection between me and Jazmynn.

And by not liking the tone of this, I meant that:

a) "proved yourself scum" followed by "we can have our differences" seems like a drastic difference
b) "strengthen the very weak connection" as opposed to make it seem like there is some sort of scumteam connection in the first place

Are you still talking at me? You're posting very sporatically.

[Netlava]

How does asking for your feelings do that?

It just seemed like he was singling me out for not being on his wagon. And asking me as if I'm supposed to know his alignment. I did see his post (never got around to actually responding to it), but I was going to, with something along the lines of "how would I know? I think you're not scum and all but I don't know for sure (obviously). skitzer on the other hand... blah blah blah." Basically, it seems like he's trying to emphasize me not being on his wagon by making me post something along these lines.

I mean, what's the point of asking for someone's feelings when you get lynched as scum? He's trying to make me look bad.

Oh I know that, or at least I knew that would be your reasoning. My point is of course you would call it scummy because it's directed at you. The tone isn't scummy at all.

You are making assumptions about my reasons. I also find this scummy.

Are you still talking at me? You're posting very sporatically.

Nope, to anyone in particular. But I also find this quote (by you) somewhat scummy.

[StrangerCoug]

How does asking for your feelings do that?

It just seemed like he was singling me out for not being on his wagon. And asking me as if I'm supposed to know his alignment. I did see his post (never got around to actually responding to it), but I was going to, with something along the lines of "how would I know? I think you're not scum and all but I don't know for sure (obviously). skitzer on the other hand... blah blah blah." Basically, it seems like he's trying to emphasize me not being on his wagon by making me post something along these lines.

OK, I see where you're coming from here.

I mean, what's the point of asking for someone's feelings when you get lynched as scum? He's trying to make me look bad.

I don't know. Maybe he expected you to bus him if you're scum?

Are you still talking at me? You're posting very sporatically.

Nope, to anyone in particular. But I also find this quote (by you) somewhat scummy.

I don't see how bringing up something someone's doing is scummy. If you're town, then you're letting other people push your buttons, not something you should be doing.

[Furry]

So are people not commenting on what I have up on skitzer just to drive me insane or is there some other reason here?

[StrangerCoug]

So are people not commenting on what I have up on skitzer just to drive me insane or is there some other reason here?

I see the skitzer case, but I'm busy attacking Netlava right now. He's awfully defensive over the slightest thing.

[Netlava]

I don't know. Maybe he expected you to bus him if you're scum?

I think he was already hammered by that point.

I don't see how bringing up something someone's doing is scummy. If you're town, then you're letting other people push your buttons, not something you should be doing.

I'm not sure what you mean here. But I'm pointing out that I'm finding hewitt scummy now when he wasn't on my radar originally.

I see the skitzer case, but I'm busy attacking Netlava right now. He's awfully defensive over the slightest thing.

Geez, weren't you telling me to defend myself earlier

So you voted for the player you thought was derailing a wagon. This means you saw it as a scumtell which means you saw Emp as scum. However this also means instead of voting for scum, you voted for the player trying to dereail a scum wagon. While derailing a scum wagon is a scum tell, ive seen town do it before on bad reads.

I think skitzer only voted mastin in hindsight of the emp lynch.

[hewitt]

Netlava you keep calling me scummy but you're not giving any reasons as to how I'm being scummy. You're good at name-calling but you're not defending your words adequately.

[StrangerCoug]

I don't see how bringing up something someone's doing is scummy. If you're town, then you're letting other people push your buttons, not something you should be doing.

I'm not sure what you mean here. But I'm pointing out that I'm finding hewitt scummy now when he wasn't on my radar originally.

You find hewitt scummy for what, pointing out that you're scummy? That's the only thing I see from you on him.

I see the skitzer case, but I'm busy attacking Netlava right now. He's awfully defensive over the slightest thing.

Geez, weren't you telling me to defend myself earlier

Defending yourself is responding to accusations directed at you. Being defensive is a nice way of saying "panicking".

[Lowell]

I think furry, mastin, and SC are town. If I'm right I dont' really care about the rest...

[Furry]

So you voted for the player you thought was derailing a wagon. This means you saw it as a scumtell which means you saw Emp as scum. However this also means instead of voting for scum, you voted for the player trying to dereail a scum wagon. While derailing a scum wagon is a scum tell, ive seen town do it before on bad reads.

I think skitzer only voted mastin in hindsight of the emp lynch.

Yeah your right, I thought he was on that "unofficial mastin wagon" thing yesterday. Even if you take out this part, I still like the skitzer lynch more then a you lynch right now.

[farside22]

Rishi is back and taking over again.
Also I had a replacement contact me. Rishi will decide who's role the person will take over.

[hewitt]

I think furry, mastin, and SC are town. If I'm right I dont' really care about the rest...

You obviously aren't contributing anything to scumhunting so why are you just calling out random people as town without giving any reason?

[Rishi]

Yes. I am back. I am giving the player the option of which role to take over.

I'll give a few days for the other replacement, but farside22 said it's okay to consider a modkill if the replacement doesn't show.

[Furry]

Furr-ay! the mod is back. Now, lets lynch skitzer, or I will make more bad puns using my name.

@Net - Any chance of going back to the skitzer wagon?