Mafia 95 - Quick & Dirty - Game Over!

[cateraction]

No lynch? Are you crazy?

[Xylthixlm]

No lynch is normally the right play with 6 alive and probably 1 scum, but the presence of a roleblocker muddies things. If reckoner gets a correct roleblock, then we'll get an extra lynch; no lynch would throw that away.

[scotmany12]

You seriously don't see how no lynch will help us? I'm not going to go into the specifics because that is going to help the scum. No lynch is the right play right now.

[Xylthixlm]

If we're going to no lynch, we should avoid too much discussion beforehand. No sense giving the scum extra info to decide their kill.

[xRECKONERx]

We need to have a set of questions everyone should answer in order to 1) gain information after the next night kill, and 2) help me determine who to block next.

[scotmany12]

Vote: No Lynch

The least we discuss today the better it is. You guys just have to trust me. I think it would be best for reck to block me but I'm going to leave that decision up to him.

[Xylthixlm]

I'll vote no lynch after ConsonantM and lazaruthmoth say something.

[lazarusmoth]

Just got back from V/LA. Reading and posting soon.

[xRECKONERx]

Vote: No Lynch

The least we discuss today the better it is. You guys just have to trust me. I think it would be best for reck to block me but I'm going to leave that decision up to him.

Umm. What?

[Xylthixlm]

The least we discuss today the better it is. You guys just have to trust me.

I agree.

[ConsonantM]

We need to have a set of questions everyone should answer in order to 1) gain information after the next night kill, and 2) help me determine who to block next.

How about

Who do you suspect?
Who do you think is town?
and
Where were you on the night of the 23rd?

---

On to some thoughts:
What's worrying me is that both of one Mafia faction flipped goon, while one of the flips from the other was a power role.
It has gotten me thinking that, in theory, we might have six total scum, a power role on each mafia side and 2 mafia goons each. i think i am getting a bit paranoid, tho.

i also am actually disappointed that the block was successful--i mean, if the kill got through, it would narrow down our suspect pool by 1 player, and there's the chance that sam would've shot the other Mafia, 4 an easy town win.
---
4 the moment, tho, i will be reanalyzing the wagons thusfar in the game 2 see what i can make of them.

[Xylthixlm]

vote: No Lynch

[ConsonantM]

Bronx will b in purple.
Brooklyn will b in red.
Town in green.
Blue will b very likely town.

Vote Count: 8 to lynch

Lamont_Cranston: 2 (BloodCovenent,

xRECKONERx

)
Xylthixlm: 2 (

DizzyIzzyB13

,

sam.samhorn

)

Papa Zito

: 2 (Xylthixlm,

inHimshallibe

)
ConsonantM: 1 (

Lamont_Cranston

)

Kise: 1 (Papa Zito

)
Phoebus: 1 (

Kise

)

Not Voting: 5 (ConsonantM,

Phoebus

, lazarusmoth, cateraction,

Lowell

)

Vote Count: 8 to lynch

Kise: 3 (Papa Zito, Lamont_Cranston,

xRECKONERx

)

Lamont_Cranston: 2 (BloodCovenent, Kise)

Xylthixlm: 2 (

DizzyIzzyB13

,

sam.samhorn

)

Papa Zito:

2 (Xylthixlm,

inHimshallibe

)

inHimshallibe

: 1 (ConsonantM)

Not Voting: 4 (

Phoebus

, lazarusmoth, cateraction,

Lowell

)

Vote Count: 8 to lynch

Lamont_Cranston: 3 (BloodCovenent, Kise

, Xylthixlm)

Kise: 2 (Papa Zito

,

xRECKONERx

)
Xylthixlm: 2 (

DizzyIzzyB13

,

sam.samhorn

)

Papa Zito: 1 (inHimshallibe

)

inHimshallibe

: 1 (ConsonantM)
xRECKONERx[/color]: 1 (lazarusmoth)
sam.samhorn[/color]: 1 (

Lamont_Cranston

)

Not Voting: 2 (

Phoebus

, cateraction,

Lowell

)

Vote Count: 8 to lynch

Kise: 6 (inHimshallibe, Lamont_Cranston, BloodCovenent

,

Phoebus

,

DizzyIzzyB13

,

Kise

)
Xylthixlm: 2 (

sam.samhorn

,

xRECKONERx

)

inHimshallibe

: 1 (ConsonantM)

xRECKONERx

: 1 (lazarusmoth)

BloodCovenent

: 1 (cateraction)

Not Voting: 4 (

Lowell

,

Kise, Papa Zito

, Xylthixlm)

Vote Count: 8 to lynch

Kise: 6 (inHimshallibe, Lamont_Cranston, BloodCovenent[/color],

Phoebus

,

DizzyIzzyB13

,

Kise

)
Xylthixlm: 2 (

sam.samhorn

,

xRECKONERx

)

inHimshallibe

: 1 (ConsonantM)

xRECKONERx

: 1 (lazarusmoth)

BloodCovenent

: 1 (cateraction)
lazarusmoth: 1 (

Papa Zito

)

Not Voting: 3 (

Rhinox

,

Kise

, Xylthixlm)

Kise: 8 (inHimshallibe, Lamont_Cranston, BloodCovenent

,

Phoebus

,

DizzyIzzyB13

,

Kise

, lazarusmoth,

xRECKONERx

)
Xylthixlm: 1 (

sam.samhorn

)

inHimshallibe

: 1 (ConsonantM)

BloodCovenent

: 1 (cateraction)

lazarusmoth: 1 (

Papa Zito

)

Not Voting: 2 (

Rhinox

, Xylthixlm)

Bolded may be important, considering Zito's fate.
Neway, that's day 1.

[ConsonantM]

What i find concerning is that both of the blus, whose claims i say make it likely that they're town, have both consistently voted right around the same point in a bandwagon as the purples do.

They also never voted 4 each other. Onto do the d2 vote counts.

[lazarusmoth]

No lynch it is then.

Vote: No Lynch

The least we discuss today the better it is. You guys just have to trust me. I think it would be best for reck to block me but I'm going to leave that decision up to him.

I'm not seeing how this plays out.

[xRECKONERx]

To answer the questions:

I most suspect lazarus, I'd say.
I think scotmany is the most town, but that's not saying much.

[scotmany12]

Unvote

I need to think this out for a second.

[xRECKONERx]

And I still don't understand why someone would ask me to block them, but...

Vote: No Lynch

[scotmany12]

You blocking me is the less risky play. That's all I'm going to say with that. Not the biggest reward, but less risk. The problem is wether or not we are dealing with 1 scum left or 3 scum.

[ConsonantM]

Same colorings.

Vote Count: 6 to lynch

inHimshallibe

: 5 (

sam.samhorn

, ConsonantM, lazarusmoth, cateraction,

xRECKONERx

)

DizzyIzzyB13

: 1 (

Rhinox

)

xRECKONERx

: 1 (

inHimshallibe

)

Not Voting: 3 (Xylthixlm,

Phoebus

,

DizzyIzzyB13

)

Worrisome is how Reck has been on both bandwagons.

Vote Count: 6 to lynch

inHimshallibe

: 5 (

sam.samhorn

, ConsonantM, lazarusmoth, cateraction,

xRECKONERx

)

xRECKONERx

: 3 (

inHimshallibe

,

Rhinox

, Xylthixlm)

Not Voting: 2 (

Phoebus

,

DizzyIzzyB13

)

Rhinox and Xyl vote together again (Though Xyl said he would've voted 4 Kise, they were the only two unvoted at the end of the day), and again, the blue and the purple end up being the only 2 unvoted.

Vote Count: 6 to lynch

inHimshallibe

: 4 (

sam.samhorn

, lazarusmoth, cateraction,

xRECKONERx

)

xRECKONERx

: 3 (

Rhinox

, Xylthixlm, ConsonantM)

lazarusmoth: 1 (

inHimshallibe

)

Not Voting: 2 (

Phoebus

,

DizzyIzzyB13

)

Current Deadline: Saturday June 13th, 10 PM Eastern

Just a note--but the bolded is a very strong link to Laz being mafia. inHim was voting Laz, inHim dies. This might not be significant, tho, considering how i was voting Laz yesterday and didnt die.

Vote Count: 6 to lynch

inHimshallibe

: 2 (lazarusmoth, cateraction)

xRECKONERx

: 2 (

Rhinox

, Xylthixlm)
lazarusmoth: 1 (

inHimshallibe

)
Xylthixlm: 1 (

xRECKONERx

)

Not Voting: 2 (

Phoebus

,

DizzyIzzyB13

,

sam.samhorn

, ConsonantM)

Again, alarming patterns. Xyl and a proven Red together a good portion of the time, blues constantly being paired with purples, and possible OMGUS-kills from Laz. This seems 2 me 2 indicate 6 scum instead of the 4 i had thought, if u put any meaning into it. However, that would be large 4 this size of a game, so i am far from thinking this 2 b the case.

Vote Count: 6 to lynch

inHimshallibe

: 2 (lazarusmoth, cateraction)

xRECKONERx

: 2 (

Rhinox

, Xylthixlm)
Xylthixlm: 2 (

xRECKONERx

,

Phoebus

)
lazarusmoth: 1 (

inHimshallibe

)

Not Voting: 3 (

DizzyIzzyB13

,

sam.samhorn

, ConsonantM)

Vote Count: 6 to lynch

Xylthixlm: 3 (

xRECKONERx

,

Phoebus

,

iinHimshallibe

)

iinHimshallibe

: 2 (lazarusmoth, cateraction)

xRECKONERx

: 2 (

Rhinox

, Xylthixlm)

Phoebus: 1 (sam.samhorn

)

Not Voting: 2 (

DizzyIzzyB13

, ConsonantM)

i am starting 2 see a pattern...

Vote Count: 6 to lynch

Xylthixlm: 4 (

xRECKONERx

,

Phoebus

,

inHimshallibe

, cateraction)

inHimshallibe

: 2 (lazarusmoth, Xylthixlm)

xRECKONERx

: 1 (

Rhinox

)

Phoebus: 1 (sam.samhorn

)
lazarusmoth: 1 (ConsonantM)

Not Voting: 1 (

DizzyIzzyB13

)

And that's the end of day two. Lots of patterns that i can see w/o even posting this.

[ConsonantM]

Conclusion:
Reck's very likely not scum with Rhinox; that vote was consistent throughout day two, with the exception of the early Dizzy vote.
IF Reck is scum, he'd be scum with Phoe and Sam.
Same goes for Dizzy.
Altho i am leaning towards them both being town.

4 a 1-man scum team, i'd think either Laz or Xyl would be it, tho cat comes in third.
4 a 2-man scum team, i'd think it'd b both Laz and Xyl, actually.

If the latter is tru, for the last of the other mafia, it'd likely b one of the blues (most likely Reck, due to Izzy's one-shot vig claim), or Cateraction.

[Xylthixlm]

ConsonantM, in your experience, do scum usually vote together?

[ConsonantM]

Day three. No green, no red, but otherwise, coloring's the same.

Vote Count: 5 to lynch

lazarusmoth: 2 (ConsonantM,

xRECKONERx

)

DizzyIzzyB13

: 1 (cateraction)

Not Voting: 5 (Xylthixlm,

sam.samhorn, Phoebus

, lazarusmoth,

DizzyIzzyB13

)

Conclusion:
Reck really likes voting for the leading bandwagon...

Vote Count: 5 to lynch

lazarusmoth: 3 (ConsonantM,

xRECKONERx

, Xylthixlm)

DizzyIzzyB13

: 1 (cateraction)

xRECKONERx

: 1 (

Phoebus

)

Phoebus: 1 (sam.samhorn

)

Not Voting: 5 (lazarusmoth,

DizzyIzzyB13

)

Conclusion: If three scum per team, it would not surprise me if they were doing a double-decker bus. (Sam bussing Phoe, who is bussing Reck.)

It also points to Xyl not being partnered with Laz, as Xyl doesnt buss, via meta.

Vote Count: 5 to lynch

lazarusmoth: 2 (ConsonantM, Xylthixlm)

Phoebus: 2 (sam.samhorn

, cateraction)
cateraction: 1 (

Phoebus

)

sam.samhorn

: 1 (

xRECKONERx

)

Not Voting:

5

(lazarusmoth,

scotmany12

)

Conclusion: The mod isn't paying the closest amount of attention 2 the vote counts.
More seriously, tho, there is, again, definitely the possibility of a bussing circle.
Reck could be bussing Sam, bussing Phoe, who is voting 4 some1 not a member of their mafia.
Alternatively, Sam's bussing Phoe, who is bussing Cateraction, a possible third member.

This, again, relies on the three-scum theory, tho.

Vote Count: 5 to lynch

Phoebus: 3 (sam.samhorn

, cateraction, lazarusmoth)

sam.samhorn

: 2 (

xRECKONERx

, Xylthixlm)
lazarusmoth: 1 (ConsonantM)
cateraction: 1 (

Phoebus

)

Not Voting: 1 (

scotmany12

)

Vote Count: 5 to lynch

Phoebus: 4 (sam.samhorn

, cateraction, lazarusmoth,

xRECKONERx

)
lazarusmoth: 1 (ConsonantM)
cateraction: 1 (

Phoebus

)

Not Voting: 2 (

scotmany12

, Xylthixlm)

Vote Count: 5 to lynch

Phoebus: 5 (sam.samhorn

, cateraction, lazarusmoth,

xRECKONERx

, Xylthixlm)
lazarusmoth: 1 (ConsonantM)
cateraction: 1 (

Phoebus

)

Not Voting: 1 (

scotmany12

)

Conclusion: Cateraction is either not a member of the Bronx mafia, or the Bronx mafia LOVES double-decker busses.

[Xylthixlm]

This actually brings to mind Lynch All Lurkers (see discussion starting here), where two of the scum kept voting together, but there were also three pairs of townies who kept voting together.

Anyways, let's shut up if we're no lynching, k?

[ConsonantM]

Yes.

Lynch all Lurkers contains examples of this.

Neway,

-If two mafia r left on the Brooklyn team, then it's likely that Xyl or Laz are 1 of the 2, but not both.
-If the above is tru, then Cateraction is most likely the second member, based off of my conclusions.
-If only one, tho, it's still most likely Xyl or Laz.

-If two Brooklyn mafia r left, there's 1 Bronx mafia left, who is most likely going 2 b either Reck, or Cateraction.

From this, i can deduce that all four of them are very possible scum, but under the 1-scum left theory, it is most likely either Laz or Xyl.