Open 150 - Crossfire - Game mod abandoned

[Kmd4390]

Vote Zachrulez

. Case was posted yesterday.

[Zachrulez]

Vote Zachrulez

. Case was posted yesterday.

Modified the quote for easier access to your "case."

Dunno why you couldn't have provided that to make it easier for everyone to see...

Anyway, more later.

[VP Baltar]

Don't weep for me! My corpse has been cast in a 1980s cross-over remake of the Police Academy films and Weekend at Bernies. I'm going to be a multi-thousandaire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kmd4390]

Vote Zachrulez

. Case was posted yesterday.

Modified the quote for easier access to your "case."

Dunno why you couldn't have provided that to make it easier for everyone to see...

Anyway, more later.

Does it matter? It's not hard to find.

[lazarusmoth]

Keep in mind that Ash and VP have just been NK'ed as you read this...

unvote
vote AshMC1984

for voting me for pretty much no reasoning...

Since you <DS11>seem to need my post fleshed out:
The first post - a cop-out - like it or not the RVS is there. Next time if you don't like it, pop in and post something to kick it into the real game proper. Not seeing anything scummy to comment on doesn't fly. It's called scumhunting.
Your first question is fluff - saying you hoped for a scum role is worse and is a slight scum-tell.
Your wording of your second question allows you to imply that you 'claim' vanilla (the only pro-town roles in this game -

shock

).

Second post: You request immunity from active lurking cos that's the way

you

roll.

Now adding OMGUS to your rap-sheet.

DS - sorry if I came off as insulting. I don't think you're stupid. I do think it's a slight scum-tell when someone makes the unproveable claim of being pro-town in such a subtle way. Not an official "Claim - I am ____", but statements such as "Well, being a townie as I am....." ping my scumdar.

ok, had time to properly read over the Ash/darkstrike exchange.

Conclusion:

Ash=awesome

I wasn’t meaning to “claim” by it at all.

You implied you were town. Fairly directly.

Posting more would actually make you seem a lot less scummy when you do post. I don't like how you keep trying to excuse your lurking.

I think right now I would be good with the following lynches: Kise/Darkstrike and to a much lesser extent Fernando (who I would rather is replaced).

To sum up:
(1) DS_11 made a softclaim
(2) DS_11 made an excuse for active lurking
(3) DS_11 made OMGUS vote.
(4) Ash and VP expressed their scum tells about DS_11. Guess who died on N1.

vote: DS_11

[Kmd4390]

While I agree that Darkstrike is scummy, he didn't softclaim. Not in a game with all vanillas. And he only could have killed one of Ash/VP, not both.

[lazarusmoth]

The other scummy player that springs to mind is dvdkid. I think either VP or Ash or both also pointed it out. I'll try to make a summary for him too.

[Zachrulez]

Vote Zachrulez

. Case was posted yesterday.

Modified the quote for easier access to your "case."

Dunno why you couldn't have provided that to make it easier for everyone to see...

Anyway, more later.

Does it matter? It's not hard to find.

What probably matters more is that once again the 4th point in your case was and is a lie.

On the Darkstrike case:

1. Is a non point

2. The active lurking concerns me the most.

3. OMGUS being a scumtell? It's certainly not an example of good play.

4. Is WIFOM.

[Huntress]

My main suspects left from day one are Dvd, Fernando, Kmd with the possible addition of Darkstrike. I've looked at the case against Zach but I can't really see it. I'll take another look at them all tomorrow when I'm a bit more awake.

[Darkstrike_11]

To sum up:
(1) DS_11 made a softclaim
(2) DS_11 made an excuse for active lurking
(3) DS_11 made OMGUS vote.
(4) Ash and VP expressed their scum tells about DS_11. Guess who died on N1.

vote: DS_11

1) It wasn't a soft claim. When I say that I said the whole policeman/townie thing was meant as light relief, believe me.
2) yup...just cos this game is boring/not fun for me, doesn't mean im mafia
3) How is OMGUS a scumtell? I really don't see it! I voted ash because he refused to give reasoning for voting me. He explained, then I took the vote off. I really think people are trying to see scummy things in my posts where there aren't.
4) This is a WIFOM attack. Perfect for you because I can't defend against it. I could always say that since I am the biggest suspect, it would make sense for the mafia groups to kill people who attacked me in the hope of getting me lynched (which, lets face it, is probably going to happen)

No doubt people will now scream "oh my gawd he used a wifom defence he must be scum now"...go on punk, make my day.

[lazarusmoth]

vote darkstrike

reasoning should be obvious enough, but I will lay it all out when I have time

Furry, what are your reasons for voting DS?

My main suspects left from day one are Dvd, Fernando, Kmd with the possible addition of Darkstrike. I've looked at the case against Zach but I can't really see it. I'll take another look at them all tomorrow when I'm a bit more awake.

Huntress, mind telling us who your main suspects are now and why?

And where are these people?
- ZazieR
- Khamisa
- dvdkid13
- FeRnAnDo

[Zachrulez]

So who's standing out to you right now Darkstrike?

[Kmd4390]

Darkstrike, just because something is WIFOM doesn't mean you can't defend against it. It just means your defense will be just as WIFOMy. I don't see what is wrong with that.

[Khamisa]

I like the looks of the Darkstrike_11 case but we have to remember that the scum are possibly smart and without knowing it, both teams intended to make him look worse.

[Kaiveran]

ZazieR, dvdkid13, and FeRnAnDo

have been

prodded.

[Furry]

Hey, I just remembered im in this game. Might be able to get a case up tonight, more likely tomorrow though. Major stall mode going on right now though.

[Zachrulez]

This game is moving at a crawl's pace.

Vote: Darkstrike

Reasons:

- Active lurking
- OMGUS attacks (Which we've now seen a pattern of in the way he responded to Lazarus.)
- Failure to scumhunt (See post 261 posted two days ago.)
- Every post he's made has been a response to attacks. Even his first post was a response and assertion that he was not lurking in the face of being accused as such. (A subpoint of failure to scumhunt)

I will be perfectly happy with Darkstrike being the lynch today if he continues failing to address these four points.

[Khamisa]

Zach, I find it interesting that you don't point out the night kills, isn't that the central point of the case?

[Zachrulez]

Zach, I find it interesting that you don't point out the night kills, isn't that the central point of the case?

No, it's not. The night kill point is WIFOM as I already pointed out.

Anyone could have killed VP or Ash, for any reason. Speculating on it or using that specific point against Darkstrike is not scumhunting, it's just being silly.

[Darkstrike_11]

This game is moving at a crawl's pace.

Vote: Darkstrike

Reasons:

- Active lurking
- OMGUS attacks (Which we've now seen a pattern of in the way he responded to Lazarus.)
- Failure to scumhunt (See post 261 posted two days ago.)
- Every post he's made has been a response to attacks. Even his first post was a response and assertion that he was not lurking in the face of being accused as such. (A subpoint of failure to scumhunt)

I will be perfectly happy with Darkstrike being the lynch today if he continues failing to address these four points.

1) Active Lurking. uh huh. Don't care, this is how im playing it this game. Want to mislynch me for it? Go ahead.
2) OMGUS is not scummy. As I have said before, and as you have not heard, I voted Ash to get him to explain why he voted me.
3) Failure to scumhunt. I'll admit, my earlier tentative attempt at trying to get information fell on its face. It did not adhere me to scumhunting in this game. I have ideas of people who are scummy. I have reasons too. But if I told you, would you take them seriously? I severely doubt it. Once someone has the scum-tinted glasses on, nothing appears pro town.
4) Defences, yes. Its the only thing i feel I can post about. My first post was not an assertion that I'm not lurking, it was an assertion that I didn't need a prod. PLEASE READ MY POSTS. Scum-tinted specs suit you sir.

[Kmd4390]

Zach, I find it interesting that you don't point out the night kills, isn't that the central point of the case?

Um, what? It is? I think darkstrike is scummy, but the kills don't have anything to do with that.

[Zachrulez]

Wow, I just looked across the street and could see tumbleweeds making their way through town.

[Khamisa]

Isn't it at least part of the case?

[Kmd4390]

Isn't it at least part of the case?

Not my case. I think it's a crap point.

[Zachrulez]

Isn't it at least part of the case?

What's stopping you from giving your thoughts on the case?

Your posts since the start of day 2.

I like the looks of the Darkstrike_11 case but we have to remember that the scum are possibly smart and without knowing it, both teams intended to make him look worse.

What about the case do you like?

Zach, I find it interesting that you don't point out the night kills, isn't that the central point of the case?

Do YOU think it's a central part of the case? You've been pretty vague about your thoughts on the case so far.

Isn't it at least part of the case?

See above.