Open 131 - Nightless Vanilla (Over) before 767

[Furry]

reading again... goes to show that utility lynches arent all bad in the end

[Lowell]

Seriously if we just summarily lynch everyone not voting emp we'll catch two more scum, at least.

[hewitt]

HAHA I love this game so much. I agree that Netlava looks the most suspicious, even more so by the quote he pointed out himself (I don't know why you thought that would prove you not scumbuddies?)

[Lowell]

Here's the final votelist.

vote count:
Empking – 6 (Furry, StrangerCoug, hewitt, Lowell, White Castle, skitzer)
skitzer – 1 (Empking)
Mastin – 2 (Guybrush Threepwood, Netlava)
hewitt – 1 (Mastin)

Not voting: ,Jazzmyn

Of those voting emp, I'd say WC and skitzer are the least town. Skitzer looked for a hundred different ways to not vote emp, it seems. WC only joined the fight at the last minute. That said, I'm not willing to lynch anyone on the emp wagon today.

Most likely, mastin was the scum-proposed counterwagon to emp. I highly doubt ALL scum were voting for each other. I also think that at LEAST one of the inactives (jazz and guybrush) is scum. Were there five active town and four active scum, the scum would DEFINATELY seized the advantage and not let one of their own get killed. I'm leaning towards jazz scum, with net trying to make a counterwagon by piggybacking on a lurkertownie's vote.

vote netlava

[hewitt]

I think that makes sense. It makes good sense also that netlava would be the second to jump on the Mastin wagon instead of starting one and attracting even more attention.

Vote: Netlava

[farside22]

Day 3 vote count:

skitzer (1): Netlava
Netlava (2) Lowell, hewitt

not voting:

Guybrush Threepwood
skitzer
Furry
Jazzmyn
StrangerCoug
Mastin
White Castle

With 10 alive it will take 6 to lynch.

[Netlava]

Fine, I guess. I'm still facepalming over being wrong but my Mastin wagon wasn't expected to end in a lynch anyway. I was just messing around.

[Furry]

I think Skitzer has a higher scum chance then Net does. There were a few situations where he passively detracted from the Emp wagon. Just to pull them all up.

How is this anywhere near lynch worthy?

Vote Emp, will try and get more up soon. This week is amazingly busy though.

I'm confused. You state how much you found against Wall-E in only the first half of the game, and then you quickly switch your vote to Empking for this minor infraction?

I mean, later Empking gets much scummier, but at the point you voted him, his case seems to pale in comparison to the case on Wall-E you had created.

Bolded is my definition, and why I support utility lynches of people who are anti-town and null to any scum reads. Which is why I want Emp gone ASAP.

I haven't necessarily found him that bad. He just puts things rather bluntly.

Quite a majority of the rest of his posts are filler or otherwise useless.

Also I think if skitzer is scum, jazz has a decent chance of being scum since she was the only replacement needed player mentioned, while we do have two that need replacing at this point.

Vote Skitzer

Much more sure of this then Net, also I think quite a few other people are tied to Skitzer, a scum flip from him should point to the last two quickly

[StrangerCoug]

Vote: Netlava

since, apparently, #916 was made in twilight and therefore the vote therein did not count.

Fine, I guess. I'm still facepalming over being wrong but my Mastin wagon wasn't expected to end in a lynch anyway. I was just messing around.

At this point in the game you should be voting the player you want lynched. Saying you were messing around bankrupts your credibility, and saying you didn't expect a Mastin lynch anyway helps to that end. If you want us to take anything you say and do seriously, then post decent cases and don't start crap wagons like the one you did (

FoS: White Castle

for partaking in said wagon, while I'm on this subject).

[Lowell]

I'm very tempted to go along with furry and vote skitz. I agree that in a lot of ways he looks the worst. Buuuuuut, I'm having truoble seeing the logic of lynching an emp voter today, when there are so many others that have yet to explain themselves.

[farside22]

FYI: If I can not find any replacements by Monday I will being doing mod kills.
Right now I need 2 replacements. One for Jazz and one for Guy.

[skitzer]

Vote: Mastin

I know the Netlava case is much stronger for those who are agreeing that non-Empking voters are scum but I believe Mastin much more blatantly tried to derail it with his hewitt case.

Furry, me being scum with Jazzmyn is terrible reasoning. Look at our intreaction on day 1. I noted her replacement because she was much more prominent in the game than GT and she's also not been replaced already, when GT has already replaced someone.

[hewitt]

Fine, I guess. I'm still facepalming over being wrong but my Mastin wagon wasn't expected to end in a lynch anyway. I was just messing around.

You were just messing around? That sounds just oh so pro-town to me.

[Mastin]

Mastin Votes: Hewitt.

For the case on him. (Which I still need to fully type up.)

[Furry]

Furry, me being scum with Jazzmyn is terrible reasoning. Look at our intreaction on day 1. I noted her replacement because she was much more prominent in the game than GT and she's also not been replaced already, when GT has already replaced someone.

Anyone else notice that Skitzer is defending me calling him scum with Jazz instead of me calling him scum? Common sense says scum would be more concerned about strengthening/weakening connections, while town would be more concerned about getting lynched

[StrangerCoug]

Mod: V/LA for the coming day.

(We're in the middle of a day change in the U.S., which is why I'm not saying 'today" or "tomorrow".)

[Lowell]

I think I'd support mod killing jazz and Guy. If not, I wouldn't mind lynching them (jazz first). Like I said, I don't see any way they're both town. No way we would have gotten a scum lynch yesterday if they were.

[skitzer]

Anyone else notice that Skitzer is defending me calling him scum with Jazz instead of me calling him scum? Common sense says scum would be more concerned about strengthening/weakening connections, while town would be more concerned about getting lynched

Scum are concerned about both of those things. Town is concerned about lynching scum.

You've now just proved yourself scum by trying to strengthen the very weak connection between me and Jazmynn.

[Furry]

Anyone else notice that Skitzer is defending me calling him scum with Jazz instead of me calling him scum? Common sense says scum would be more concerned about strengthening/weakening connections, while town would be more concerned about getting lynched

Scum are concerned about both of those things. Town is concerned about lynching scum.

You've now just proved yourself scum by trying to strengthen the very weak connection between me and Jazmynn.

lol?

I am always concerned about getting lynched as town since it really doesnt help the town. Sure scumhunting is priority one, but not getting lynched is pretty high up there as well.

Also you never really responded to what I put up on you so far. Also what is your read on Jazz?

[skitzer]

Well I find not getting lynched second to scumhunting. We can have our differences

Jazz is mostly neutral leaning town. Our argument really didn't get anywhere (back on day 1, arguing over farside's vote). Otherwise, she made decent cases.

[Furry]

Well I find not getting lynched second to scumhunting. We can have our differences

I do too, but not getting lynched is a primary component of playing well as town, hence its one of my top goals.

Jazz is mostly neutral leaning town. Our argument really didn't get anywhere (back on day 1, arguing over farside's vote). Otherwise, she made decent cases.

So if jazz is town, why would you be so against being called scum with jazz if you were town? If you were town, and jazz was town, and I was scum, what would be my motivation there?

It was a small connection I saw and mentioned due to what I think is true (I agree with lowell that at least one of the lurkers is mafia due to the lynch happening the way it did), and in part to get reactions of anyone trying to cut it down or follow my lead for refrence later in the game. I like the reaction I got though.

@Mastin - I dont think hewitt lynch is happening today. Thoughts on current dueling wagons?

[Netlava]

Hello.

You were just messing around? That sounds just oh so pro-town to me.

I don't like the tone of this.

You've now just proved yourself scum by trying to strengthen the very weak connection between me and Jazmynn.

I don't like the tone of this either.

[Netlava]

Unvote

I think I need a re-read in light of empking scum flip.

[hewitt]

Hello.

You were just messing around? That sounds just oh so pro-town to me.

I don't like the tone of this.

Shocker. You wouldn't like that considering I'm calling out what you said as pretty anti-town. Messing around is pretty stupid in my opinion.

I'm a little disappointed that I'm not going to be able to get to read Mastin's case on me until I come back. V/LA until 7/3. My vote stands strong.

[StrangerCoug]

I am always concerned about getting lynched as town since it really doesnt help the town. Sure scumhunting is priority one, but not getting lynched is pretty high up there as well.

So you're concerned about town getting lynched, but don't give a damn about town getting modkilled?

HoS: Furry

You were just messing around? That sounds just oh so pro-town to me.

I don't like the tone of this.

You've now just proved yourself scum by trying to strengthen the very weak connection between me and Jazmynn.

I don't like the tone of this either.

Nor will you like the tone of this: Stop being dismissive and actually defend yourself. That you don't like what you're getting is not an excuse.