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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:50 pm

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Lamont_Cranston wrote:
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Setael wrote:If the scum have a RB why not just block the claimed doc and kill him?
This is very interesting. I would like to hear Amished's response to this and get some quick discussion on this... :?:
This relates directly to the vig-kill. I need talk about this nao! (please? :roll: )
Why would scum need to block and kill the same person?

Why not just kill it?
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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:16 pm

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He is self-protecting Doc. Does it makes sense that scum would RB and kill the self-protecting Doc?
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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:57 pm

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Lamont_Cranston wrote:He is self-protecting Doc. Does it makes sense that scum would RB and kill the self-protecting Doc?
Bleh, i forgot he could selfprotect.

anyways, i dont understand where you are going with this. what are you trying to prove here?
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:06 pm

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I think Set has come up a valid reason why the Mafi do not have a RB. If they did they would of killed Amished last night. That being true, I don't really see a reason for me to vig Set.

Does Set's idea make sense that the Mafi would of RB'ed & killed Amished last night?
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:09 pm

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My problem with her is that she is theorizing about the balance of the game.
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:18 pm

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Pyro, unless I'm mistaken, what she said was roughly "a doc that can self-protect and protect multiple people? That sounds brokenly imbalanced if the mafia can't roleblock it!" which seems a pretty understandable reaction to me. And she's been clear about it being a theory and definitely not a reason to kill Amished today; it's not like she was pushing an Amished lynch for speculative reasons. So I don't really get what you're suspicious of, there.
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:24 pm

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Her point was very clear in that she was saying there has to be no Mafia RB otherwise Amished would be dead today.

I just need verification that her point is valid that if the Mafi had a RB they could of RB'ed and killed Amished last night... :?:
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:53 pm

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Elmo wrote:Pyro, unless I'm mistaken, what she said was roughly "a doc that can self-protect and protect multiple people? That sounds brokenly imbalanced if the mafia can't roleblock it!" which seems a pretty understandable reaction to me. And she's been clear about it being a theory and definitely not a reason to kill Amished today; it's not like she was pushing an Amished lynch for speculative reasons. So I don't really get what you're suspicious of, there.
As amish ed said, we don't know what the scum have. They could have a double kill or something. This reality shift sounds like a sanity flip.
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:28 pm

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Doesn't a doc with a sanity flip start killing his patients?
Or is he just ineffective?
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:56 pm

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Depends, I think.
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:29 pm

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Vig Dev


Change of heart.
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Vig Vote Tally


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8am GMT June 25

Setael-7 (Lamont, Pyro, Amished, Sironi, Devastation, Zwet, Dramonic)

Devastation-5 (Stepho, Rock, Elmo, Naomi, X)
Zwet-2 (Nyx, Pablo,)
Lamont-1 (Setael)
Pablo-1 (Tajo)

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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:15 pm

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populartajo wrote:Here is devastation.

iso 2 specially and some others have a slightly townie relaxed vibe.

posterior isos denote a short posting active lurking style.

iso 13 is his first more than one line post. His thought of the liquid leans more to the detrimental side than to the beneficial one.

his first fos of the game is for naomi. his first vote is in iso25. Again naomi. The reason is meh.
Devestation wrote:You've missed the point, the point being that its scummy AND stupid to use something if you don't know what it does.
Devestation wrote:Anyone who uses or suggests the use of any items on anyone, regardless of their scumminess or method of selection, is making themselves look scummy in mye eyes.
why?
more posterios posts tell me that dev is pretty conservative about the use of items. Like he knows the decanter will be harmful.
Devestation wrote:why can't you people think with your heads instead of with your statistics...
slightly townie here.
Devestation wrote:I don't see us making a lynch at this time without a major re-alignment, but I am pretty sure that either Stephoscope or Naomi are scum, and within 24 hours I will have made my decision as to which one to vote for.
Posterior reading tells me you didnt make your final decision like never.
Devestation wrote:In case its another 3rd person to claim gets the gun thingy, Take Shotgun
I wouldn't take it if I wasn't sure what it did, but a shotgun is pretty damn obvious.
And I think Lamont has pretty well nailed Naomi to the floor. I won't vote until she posts to defend herself though.
dev loses all his conservadurism regarding items. Supports Lammont against Naomi.
Devestation wrote:The reason why I didnt lay a vote on either day 1 was because I was unable to re-read the game.
I think you are lying. You had two choices (steph and naomi) at that time.
Devestation wrote:Setael: Why say I should be vigged without placing a vig-vote thingy? It's not particularly suspicious to me, but why anyway?
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FoS: Setael

You dodged the question with a whole load of questions of your own. This will turn into a vote if you don't answer it next post.
I'm asking because I'm interested. I'm pointing back at it because I'm still interested and now slightly irritated that I've been outright ignored, and I find it illogical to say that "so and so should be vigged" but you don't leave an official statement as such.
hate this attack. it seems to say that because setael didnt have an official statement it means all his attacks are wrong. wtf?

more oneliners, lazy behavior, active lurking.

Conclusion : not impressed by dev's performance this game that resumes in vague oneliners. Not liking some of his forced attacks against setael. failed to vote yesterday even when he said he would choose between steph and naomi. I dont disagree witgh his vig/lynch.
Unlike you, I'm bothering to think with my head. I thought of ALL the things that the drink could do, and the vast majority were things that would harm the user, not aid them. Hence use of the item is a bad idea. It was day 1 for crying out loud.

We've been over the final decision before.

Might I point out that "I wouldn't take it if I wasn't sure what it did, but a shotgun is pretty damn obvious."

I actually originally said that I had no reason. People told me to just give a reason anyway, so I did.

Nice rewording of what I said in the FoS Setael post. What I asked for a few posts back was a reason for his vig vote on me as he provided absolutely nothing in the post except for "vig dev". He ignored me at least once, and then fired questions back. All I wanted was a reason, and not giving me one translates in my mind to "I don't have one I just wanna bandwagon" (yes I recognise the Irony :x ) or "To further the dastardly goals of my faction".


No I am not on during the times convenient for you being Aussie and all, of course I will look like I am active lurking.

vig vote on setael stays.
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:21 pm

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@Setael:
Why the Devastation vote?
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:22 pm

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he DID answer in the end..
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:25 pm

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*goes back to correct himself*

sorry, I meant that Setael gave a lot of reasons to vigvote me but then didnt.
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:20 pm

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tajo, go ahead and show the qt, because my antics were intentionally meant to get me lynched, and you even proposed the idea of me being insanely scummy early on in the game.
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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:22 pm

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ZazieR replaces Alabaska J, effective immediately. Be nice, replacing into 70 pages halfway through Day 2 isn't easy.
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:25 pm

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Hi :)

(Sorry Tajo... This will likely be your third game in which you are stuck with me >.< I''ll try to behave during my read and analysis)
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:11 am

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Lamont_Cranston wrote:
Vig Vote Tally


Deadline
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8am GMT June 25

Setael-7 (Lamont, Pyro, Amished, Sironi, Devastation, Zwet, Dramonic)

Devastation-5 (Stepho, Rock, Elmo, Naomi, X)
Zwet-2 (Nyx, Pablo,)
Lamont-1 (Setael)
Pablo-1 (Tajo)

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Saw this in Tox''s post. What''s this?
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:04 am

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We got a dayvig, we're voting on who to shoot.
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:16 am

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Vig Vote Tally


Deadline
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8am GMT June 25(?)

Setael-7 (Lamont, Pyro, Amished, Sironi, Devastation, Zwet, Dramonic)

Devastation-5 (Stepho, Rock, Elmo, Naomi, Xtoxm)
Zwet-2 (Nyx, Pablo,)
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Pablo-1 (Tajo)

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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:17 am

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Lamont_Cranston wrote:Her point was very clear in that she was saying there has to be no Mafia RB otherwise Amished would be dead today.

I just need verification that her point is valid that if the Mafi had a RB they could of RB'ed and killed Amished last night... :?:
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:18 am

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Please change that deadline for the vig vote tally >.<
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:50 am

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I think if the vig votes remain unchanged as they are, Setael will be vigged regardless of how ZazieR votes.

Have fun reading all our garbage >_>
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:11 am

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Can zwet, setael and dev please do a scumlist?

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