Mafia 96 - Murder in Emerald City (Game Over!)

[fallen angel]

Zazie- That's mainly because I have been busy... Catching up soon.

[Kise]

Lol, you called him a dead miller. Cute.

[ZazieR]

Lol, you called him a dead miller. Cute.

You want cute, I''ll give you cute! DIE!!!

[Kise]

*hides behind Hayker*

[Namttam]

As a policy I haven't read (nor will I) any of mastin's inane long posts. If anything of import happens in them, I'll rely on others to convey it. I'm torn between voting him or fallen, but for now I'll

vote fallen

How can you have an accurate reading on mastin if you haven't read his posts?

In response to post 494. True, but there is such a thing as noobscum, who could very well be trying to spread suspicion in this way. Also, your attack on ckool isn't that strong. You appear to be basing your entire opinion on a single exchange. What about the rest of the game? ckool hasn't done anything else that weighs one way or another? Also, ckool answers the accusations against him before saying he is going to stop talking. What do you think of those responses and the initial accusations? Your final reason weak. He specifically says that others turned it into him cracking under pressure. Your other options fail to express what others were implying about him.

[Mastin]

The mod knows why I've been busy.

[Kise]

We don't.

[Mastin]

Anyway, I'll be dealing with this game shortly. Got to eat (Note: I take a long time eating. Ask...hmm...what game was that in? I think Alduskkel could confirm. ), and then after a brief (HOPEFULLY, anyway. :/) diversion to do real-life stuff, serious reading shall be done.

[Kise]

Tell the truth. You're watching digimon.

*eagerly awaiting JR's replacement*

[Redith]

@Redith: I thinking you're skimming. Reply to this to prove you aren't.

You have to trust people in mafia games. :3
I read, it's just there is nothing for me to contribute at this point.
I already FoS'ed Empking, there is no particular reason, just a gut feeling.
And yeah, I'm not used to such large mafia games.
By large I mean time periods. So i'm here reading your posts, not skimming. Just have nothing to say for now.

[Kise]

I'll buy that. I find myself not wanting to butt in when two people are debating. I only interject when I think one is scummy. Otherwise, I view it as an innocent arguing with an innocent... until proven guilty.

[Kublai Khan]

Also, what did the mod say about your question you said you''d ask him?

He re-sent my role PM.

What question did you ask him?

I asked if he could clarify what kind of miller I was (i.e. do I turn up as scum upon death in addition to showing up scum in investigations).

Also, how come you didn''t have anything to say about the points I brought up against your IRC ''paranoia'' and your argument against me regarding ckool''s post?

Because you're not even bothering to ask questions anymore. You're just insisting on the scummiest possible explanation of events to try to frame me. I could state that I liked water and you'd counter that I was anti-Town because towns aren't built in water.

If you were asking probing questions in good faith, then I'd answer. But I gain nothing by aiding you conjure up scummy artifical realities.

@Redith (559): Okay, just checking.

[ZazieR]

The mod knows why I've been busy.

Well, the rain only stopped you from posting for one day
I know that you play more with Kevin than with me Explain why! Or the girl on the image I posted will hunt you down before she hunts down Kise!

[ZazieR]

@Redith: I thinking you're skimming. Reply to this to prove you aren't.

You have to trust people in mafia games. :3
I read, it's just there is nothing for me to contribute at this point.
I already FoS'ed Empking, there is no particular reason, just a gut feeling.
And yeah, I'm not used to such large mafia games.
By large I mean time periods. So i'm here reading your posts, not skimming. Just have nothing to say for now.

Can''t you post some opinions? The main discussed players are:
Rotten, Kublai, Hayker, Mastin and ckool

Next post, you have at least of those your opinions posted.

[ZazieR]

I'll buy that. I find myself not wanting to butt in when two people are debating. I only interject when I think one is scummy. Otherwise, I view it as an innocent arguing with an innocent... until proven guilty.

Yet, me and Kublai are discussing. You have stated that you think Kublai is scummy. So why aren''t you butting into this discussion?

[ZazieR]

Also, what did the mod say about your question you said you''d ask him?

He re-sent my role PM.

What question did you ask him?

I asked if he could clarify what kind of miller I was (i.e. do I turn up as scum upon death in addition to showing up scum in investigations).

So you asked the mod what kind of miller you are, and the mod sends you the same role PM, according to you? Makes a lot of sense

Also, how come you didn''t have anything to say about the points I brought up against your IRC ''paranoia'' and your argument against me regarding ckool''s post?

Because you're not even bothering to ask questions anymore. You're just insisting on the scummiest possible explanation of events to try to frame me. I could state that I liked water and you'd counter that I was anti-Town because towns aren't built in water.

If you were asking probing questions in good faith, then I'd answer. But I gain nothing by aiding you conjure up scummy artifical realities.

Not responding to the case against him, because he''s caught scum, is definitly noted.

[ZazieR]

@Everybody who thinks that Kublai is town even after my discussion with him.

Please state the reason why.

[ckool5000]

You know what amazes me? ZazieR has been posting a majority of the posts on the last few pages, and she hasn't gotten a single fos or anything... Of course, there's not much about her posts that could really seem suspicious... For a second, I thought I was on a roll with my thought process, but I'm not even really sure what I'm saying now...

I'm starting to think less and less that Kublai is town. I still have my vote on him, but there's something that bothers me about it: Wouldn't a scum, if they were faking a miller, say that, yes, they were a death miller, if somebody asks? Of course, that may seem scummy in some people's eyes, so that would make them not really want to do that, but wouldn't it be in their best interest? So that way, nobody could be 100% sure if they were town or scum? Now look at Kublai. He doesn't really know, but thinks it's an ordinary miller role....

I'm starting to confuse myself. The point is, I'm starting to suspect Kublai a little lesser, but I still have my vote on him.

[ZazieR]

Can you please explain your post ckool? I don't understand what you are saying

Also, do you think now that Kublai is more likely to be town, or not? Because you're saying both:

I'm starting to think less and less that Kublai is town.

The point is, I'm starting to suspect Kublai a little lesser

[Kublai Khan]

Can you please explain your post ckool? I don't understand what you are saying

Translation: "ZazieR is doing a bang-up job framing Kublai, but when I think about it logically, there's no way he's actually scum."

[ckool5000]

Oh, I screwed up the first part. I meant less and less that Kublai is

scum

.

What I was saying was

1. I find it odd how nobody's thinking that any of your posts are scummy, even though you have so many in such a short timespan (because whenever I post a lot, I get foses at least).

2. I'm thinking that if Kublai is scum, he would've gone with death miller when someone asked... But I can't really be 100% sure of it, which is why my vote is still on him.

[ZazieR]

Can you please explain your post ckool? I don't understand what you are saying

Translation: "ZazieR is doing a bang-up job framing Kublai, but when I think about it logically, there's no way he's actually scum."

Then address finally my accusations against you.

[ZazieR]

Oh, I screwed up the first part. I meant less and less that Kublai is

scum

.

What I was saying was

1. I find it odd how nobody's thinking that any of your posts are scummy, even though you have so many in such a short timespan (because whenever I post a lot, I get foses at least).

2. I'm thinking that if Kublai is scum, he would've gone with death miller when someone asked... But I can't really be 100% sure of it, which is why my vote is still on him.

I've seen two scum claim miller in previous games:
here and here

I think they claim miller as death miller is very unlikely to have in a game.

[ckool5000]

Ah.... That actually makes sense...

[Kublai Khan]

Then address finally my accusations against you.

Ok. Your accusations are wrong.

I've seen two scum claim miller in previous games:
here and here

So if it happened in another game, it

must

be happening here. That's about as convincing as the corollary: "If it never happened in another Mafia game before, then there's no chance of it happening here".

How many games that had actual millers should I link you to? How about this one? It had 3 legit miller claims AND a legit death miller.

ZazieR is the queen of bullshit and bad arguments.