Mini 801- Kubrick Mafia (Over)

[muzzz]

Stupid me...

@

Fishy

Lazarus: are those questions rhetorical?

This was in reply to 314.

[Fishythefish]

Urgh. I missed the deadline (because it was posted by Empking's alt; reading the mod in isolation, I missed it). It appears to hit tomorrow.

@mod

: what time does deadline hit?

I am hugely torn between the two bandwagons right now. I certainly don't think Infinis is clear; but I think his claim does make him more likely protown.

I'd definitely like an answer on what Spartacus information Infinis has. We are taking a difficult deadline decision; I think it's worth hearing this.

Deadline causes no lynch. No lynch is very bad. Don't let this happen.

[muzzz]

I am waiting for others to answer it. That was

my

question you just asked back to me, I want more than one opinion on it first.

You already have two. And I know it's your question. I'm asking it back at you because you dodged my somewhat similar question.

[ortolan]

Fine, I'll answer to make it easy. On balance I would probably expect the scum to 50% claim vanilla or 50% claim a power role or so. If they in fact claimed vanilla I think it's more likely they do what the vanilla townies are, because if they weren't certain they'd be better off claiming a power role because it had already been proven by BC that power-roles have different/less information than the rest of the town. So I don't see his claim as clearing him at all.

[Empking]

Vote Count 12

Muzzz (2): Pads, Infinis
Infinis (2) Skitzer, Ort,
Pads (2): Spolium, Fishy
Ortolan (2): BC, Lazarusmoth
Fishy (1): Archon
Not Voting (3): Ash, muzzz, Cateraction

7 to Lynch

Deadline: Noon GMT Tommorow

[muzzz]

Good answer.

I'm not convinced that scum got the townie PM. But I'm no longer sure that the opposite is more likely. That means I see Infinis' claim as a null-tell right now. Although a lot depends on his answer to Fishy's question.

In the meantime, I think Pads is the scummiest guy around.

Vote: Pads

For the record, the only people I'd never-ever lynch today are BC and Fishy. Yes, that means I'd prefer a me-lynch over a no-lynch. I generally dislike lynching lurkers, but I'm making an exception for this game.

[ortolan]

Unvote
Vote: Pads

[Fishythefish]

Everyone needs a vote on a realistic bandwagon, and soon, even if you don't think any of them are the scummiest. Even if you are on a realistic bandwagon, you should consider the merits of moving- the fewer bandwagons around, the more likely we are to get a lynch.

I should almost certainly be able to check the thread very close to deadline. I would prefer any lynch that currently looks possible to no lynch.

[Infinis]

Everyone needs a vote on a realistic bandwagon, and soon, even if you don't think any of them are the scummiest. Even if you are on a realistic bandwagon, you should consider the merits of moving- the fewer bandwagons around, the more likely we are to get a lynch.

I should almost certainly be able to check the thread very close to deadline. I would prefer any lynch that currently looks possible to no lynch.

Fine.

Unvote. Vote Ort.

Also from this point forward your "bread crumbing" defense of ash is craptastic because I already answered muzz's question if anyone can't see then you dont have the town PM or (I shudder to think of the alternative). As such i think muzz is scummiest but Ort will do

Ort's assertion that scum would be 50% town/50% power role claim flies in the face of all mafia theory. WIFOM aside but not to claim doc as scum makes me a worse player than those who can't find my breadcrumbs. I'm town. Your constant push to lynch town will be your downfall today or tomorrow Ort. And Im glad that gaming the mod has made what everyone knows, who is town that is, my town claim a null tell.

[BloodCovenent]

Good answer.


In the meantime, I think Pads is the scummiest guy around.

Vote: Pads

why?

[cateraction]

Vote:pads

Agree that a no lynch is always bad.

[AshMC1984]

I haven't read since my last post. Will catch up when I can, but it looks like we are headed for a NL. We can't do that.

Unvote; vote Pads

[BloodCovenent]

Come on!

Orto, Cater, Infinis, and Ash all voted for Pads, With No reason! What the heck! why do any of you want him lynched? Yes, we can't have a no lynch, but why him? what has he done scummy? I'd by far lynch Muzz or Orto.

sigh... Claim Pads? You're at L-1 i believe. I did not want to be put in this position.

Unvote

[Infinis]

Come on!

Orto, Cater, Infinis, and Ash all voted for Pads, With No reason! What the heck! why do any of you want him lynched? Yes, we can't have a no lynch, but why him? what has he done scummy? I'd by far lynch Muzz or Orto.

sigh... Claim Pads? You're at L-1 i believe. I did not want to be put in this position.

Unvote

Nope my vote is Ort

[BloodCovenent]

my bad, i meant

Muzz.

Sorry.

[muzzz]

why?

For all the reasons I previously had and then some.

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@Infinis: seriously, answer Fishy's question.

[BloodCovenent]

In the last four pages i see now where that you put a case or state reasons why you find Pads to be scummy Muzz. can you give me a post count?

[BloodCovenent]

EBWOP:
sorry, post number.

[lazarusmoth]

I am NOT NOT NOT liking the Pads wagon. Sigh.

[Infinis]

why?

For all the reasons I previously had and then some.

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@Infinis: seriously, answer Fishy's question.

Seriously read my post directly after the question. Again if you can't see it, FAIL.

[Pads]

Well, well. We've rather stumbled into it, but it looks like we have our lynch. Since I can't talk after death, I guess I'll take the opportunity to claim Mafia Goon now. Since I am not likely to return to this thread, I'll also have my end game say now.

I had no delusions of survival. I fully expected to be lynched immediately after my claim on page 2, as there was no townie way to explain such an action. However, given what I know now and what I knew then, I still believe it to be a valid tactical choice, regardless of my inevitable demise and in spite of the normal non-sacrificial mentality of scum. At the end of the game, when all is revealed, perhaps some of you will agree with me.

I think you've got some mislynches coming in your immediate future, but after that, if you can keep your heads on straight, you shouldn't have a problem. Good luck, town.

[Infinis]

Well, well. We've rather stumbled into it, but it looks like we have our lynch. Since I can't talk after death, I guess I'll take the opportunity to claim Mafia Goon now. Since I am not likely to return to this thread, I'll also have my end game say now.

I had no delusions of survival. I fully expected to be lynched immediately after my claim on page 2, as there was no townie way to explain such an action. However, given what I know now and what I knew then, I still believe it to be a valid tactical choice, regardless of my inevitable demise and in spite of the normal non-sacrificial mentality of scum. At the end of the game, when all is revealed, perhaps some of you will agree with me.

I think you've got some mislynches coming in your immediate future, but after that, if you can keep your heads on straight, you shouldn't have a problem. Good luck, town.

Unvote; Vote Pads

[ortolan]

You are being lynched tomorrow scum. You may all thank me now for being correct, as usual.

[ortolan]

lazarusmoth 'n' Infinis = very scum

I think you've got some mislynches coming in your immediate future, but after that, if you can keep your heads on straight, you shouldn't have a problem. Good luck, town.

I have to commend this fantastic attempt at WIFOM.

Also the fact that Pads claimed extra clearly with intent to out the cop means BC is obv-town.

[ortolan]

I am NOT NOT NOT liking the Pads wagon. Sigh.

It will be an agonising decision for town tomorrow whether to lynch lazarus or Infinis first, I can see it now.