The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Xtoxm]

Anti-Town =/= Scum.

And it wasn't for no reason, even. He

was

looking like it'd be him.

And Lamont, you shouldn't allow half votes. Poor modding.

[Lamont_Cranston]

LOL. Modding. Heck I'm throwing up there what I can.

[Xtoxm]

MOD: AJ needs replacing. http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11684

MOD: The links in this post are NOT references to ongoing games, they are references to the sign up queue.

PM's last post looks kinda town...I don't think scum would come out with an argument like that under pressure.

The lurkers (Those with less than 40 posts, replacements conbined..): AJ, Nueva/Rock, Pablo Molinero, Populartajo.

AJ

He does this often as town, and he was on LA. What he contributed looked good to me, i'm thinking town.

Nueva/Rock

On the whole not looked great, but viewing Nueva's isolation, this one post gives me a town lean on the role:

Like it has been said THIS GAME WILL BE UNFAIR TOWARDS TOWN. So right now if we dont capitalize on it it will start becoming very unfair for ttownspeople like me

PM

I was surprised to see him here. I guess he lurked D1. He's been active of late. See above...

Pop

• He is usually a highly active player.
• My main memory of him is making posts to the effect of "I'll contribute later". Check his isolation posts 13 to 21.
• Other than his contribution to the Naomi wagon, i'm not seeing much to make me think he's town.
• I've noticed he's been scum a lot recently. LAL Mafia, and an ongoing where he's dead. I thought there was another game where I saw him as scum, though a quick search revealed nothing. Meh.
• Despite the lurking and future contribution promise posts, I have seen him sign for a
  lot
  of new games recently. For example:
  • This
  • This...
  • This one too
  • Here's another
  • And another

Hypothesis

: Pop is sick of being scum, and is scum here, hence the behavior.

Unvig, Vig Pop

[Lamont_Cranston]

Vig Vote Tally

Setael-3 (Pablo, Lamont, Pyro)

Pablo-2.5 (Amished, Setael, Tajo)
Sironi-2 (Zwet, Naomi)
Devastation-1 (Stepho)
Stepho-1 (Sironi)
Zwet-1 (Nyx)
Tajo-1 (Xtoxm)
Lamont-.5 (Amished)


Not vig-voting scum:

Devastation, Rock, AJ, Elmo

"Vote early and vote often or get the rope!"

[Xtoxm]

No opinions on my post?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Well I dont see Tajo as scum necessarily although I don't like his lurking...

[Elmo]

[quote="Pyromaniac"Naomi.[/quote]YAUS, SUCCESS, YOU WINS THE PRIZE!!!

Whoa whoa whoa, Naomi's claim is really weird. She says she's NK immune and when asked outright if that's all she says yes:

{..}

So then Naomi says to Amished "So you're saying you expected a cop like role as well?" and then POOF! magically she has a cop like role as well and says she's Bulletproof/1-shot cop.

Lulz. I see she hasn't used it night 1. Have we established who she's fakeclaiming a result on tomorrow?

The votes are piling on me because supposedly I'm trying to get Amished killed

Pablo, Lamont, Pyro: Is this accurate?

Pablo-3.5 (Amished, Setael, Xtoxm, Tajo)

Quite a wagon. Roughly, why?

Can someone spell out this vig business? I see the shotgun shell, I see Lamont snapping it up, I see the ARRRGH!, then Lamont claims someone visited him, then actually no he lied, the shell is fine and he has a dayvig(?). Alongside this, Nyx has a shotgun which and Amished claims.. sorta-doc that can protect multiple people!? That's a new one. So: what does the shell do? Shotgun?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Yes, its very clear this is a one-shot dayvig item. I fulfilled my responsibility in making sure it survived with me into the next day; with a bullseye on my back, I did the best I could.

Nyx now has both the shell and the shotgun and we are about to blast someone to smithereens.

Please vig vote.

[Elmo]

Okay; I approve, but I haven't chewed through the game yet, so may I be excused for a short while? I think everyone else should, though.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Yup and btw, welcome!

[Pyromaniac]

My pressure on you has also yielded a few interesting things, including showing the minimalist/opportunistic/non-reading (*cough*...heh...*cough*) nature of some people. Pyro went ahead and voted Setael even after he realized that she was not SKnight's replacement. There's no questioning, reasoning, or probing there and a great deal of what he's done is fly around from person to person to person with his vote. Paired with the way I remember he followed Lamont to me early in Day 1 (along with Naomi), I'm comfortable with:

unvote, vote Pyro

I have contributed far more than some people :cough: :cough: naomi :cough: :cough:. I have supported my vote a little bit. Sateal has been trying to outguess the mod and argue about balance. We do not know any of the scums member's powers. Thus we cannot discuss balance of this game. He has been attacking a very very powerful claimed role.

unvote, vote Zwet

(well, come on, he's just useless and you know the scum ain't gonna NK him)

This is horrible reasoning for vigging someone.

@Nyx somewhere
How do you say that naomi's claim isn't scummy?

1422
I have not been a lurker. Saying whom you think is scum is the very definition of contributing. That is more then you can say.

@elmo That is part of it. I would be perfectly fine with attacking amished's claim if she did not do it in a way like she was pretending to know the mechanics and roles of the game (tl;dr through balance).

[Pyromaniac]

[quote="Pyromaniac"Naomi.

YAUS, SUCCESS, YOU WINS THE PRIZE!!![/quote]
What is this?

[Elmo]

I think you're probably right about Naomi.

[populartajo]

Pop

He is usually a highly active player.
My main memory of him is making posts to the effect of "I'll contribute later". Check his isolation posts 13 to 21.
Other than his contribution to the Naomi wagon, i'm not seeing much to make me think he's town.
I've noticed he's been scum a lot recently. LAL Mafia, and an ongoing where he's dead. I thought there was another game where I saw him as scum, though a quick search revealed nothing. Meh.
Despite the lurking and future contribution promise posts, I have seen him sign for a lot of new games recently. For example:
This
This...
This one too
Here's another
And another


Hypothesis: Pop is sick of being scum, and is scum here, hence the behavior.

Unvig, Vig Pop

First of all in which ongoing game I am dead scum?

Your hypothesis is wrong because your premises are wrong. How can I be sick of being scum when the only game Ive been scum recently is LAL mafia and even there I was pretty active?

Bleh, I just dont find the motivation to be in this game. To be quite honest, its really boring and its one of my least favorites right now. Its probably the amount of people I dont know.

Lets see if Elmo can bring me back. OMG HAI Elmo.

[Xtoxm]

Sorry; that wasn't meant to be there. I'm not referencing any ongoing games.

My last point is still in effect...But I do know what you mean. I'm not very interested in any of my games right now. Still, you are the lurker I would reckon is most likely to be scum.

[populartajo]

What is your last point?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Bleh, I just dont find the motivation to be in this game. To be quite honest, its really boring and its one of my least favorites right now. Its probably the amount of people I dont know.

OOOO, this

pisses me off

...

The Mod has worked hard on this game and its one of the most exciting I've seen

and its only just getting started

.

Would you care to re-phrase that because I think you are scum pretending to be bored here...

[Xtoxm]

That you've been signing for other games.

[populartajo]

Bleh, I just dont find the motivation to be in this game. To be quite honest, its really boring and its one of my least favorites right now. Its probably the amount of people I dont know.

OOOO, this

pisses me off

...

The Mod has worked hard on this game and its one of the most exciting I've seen

and its only just getting started

.

Would you care to re-phrase that because I think you are scum pretending to be bored here...

I think the amount of lurkers and replacements are going to prove you wrong...

....but I like you, Lammont and you are right. If this game looks boring its not the Mod's fault. Its probably mine and from others.

Relax, I will participate more as the game progresses.

[populartajo]

That you've been signing for other games.

And that makes me scum how?

If Im bored with some games I think the natural reaction is to look for another sources of fun, isnt it?

[Xtoxm]

Hey, it made sense to me when I made it, ok.

I'm not sure who I want vigged right now. But there are some people I don't want vigged.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Ok Tajo, I like you too.

It can be tough following so many games when you don't have as much time as you usually would.

[Knight of Cydonia]

dramonic replaces Shadow Knight, and with that, no more replacements are needed.

[zwetschenwasser]

That you've been signing for other games.

Interesting way to twist tajo's nulltell...

[Pablo Molinero]

Zwet-tajo connection?