Boost Mafia 2 (Game Over)

[Patrick]

Votecount

Wiirdo (1) -- BloodCovenent
populartajo (1) -- zwetschenwasser
Mufasa (4) -- semioldguy, Sajin, populartajo, Papa Zito
ConsonantM (4) -- Kmd4390, OhGodMyLife, Empking, Mufasa
semioldguy (1) -- ConsonantM
Kise (1) -- Sir Tornado

Not voting: MissTake, millar13, cateraction, Wiirdo, Kise, Porochaz.
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

Boosting

OhGodMyLife (7) -- Papa Zito, zwetschenwasser, semioldguy, populartajo, ConsonantM, Mufasa, Sir Tornado
Kmd4390 (4) -- Empking, populartajo, Sajin, OhGodMyLife
populartajo (5) -- Empking, Kmd4390, ConsonantM, Sajin, Kise
Sir Tornado (3) -- Empking, OhGodMyLife, Mufasa
MissTake (1) -- semioldguy
Papa Zito (2) -- OhGodMyLife, ConsonantM
Empking (2) -- Kmd4390, populartajo
Sajin (1) -- Kmd4390
zwetschenwasser (1) -- Mufasa
semioldguy (1) -- Kise
Porochaz (1) -- Sir Tornado

[Sir Tornado]

Well, here lies the problem, where since he plays this way everytime, he forces upon himself a target and most mods know who he is so maybe they would be more than likely not to give him a scum role,

All role assignments on this site are, unless stated supposed to be completely randomised.

[BloodCovenent]

I simply find his game play detracting and want it gone.

Not good. Regardless if his play style is detracting, if he actually scum-hunts, and lands us a scum or two, then he's worth keeping around.

Unvtote:
Vote:Mufasa

Boost: KMD

[BloodCovenent]

EBWOP:

Gotta add game to watch list

[Mufasa]

Wow.. you guys took that the wrong way, but okay... I wasn'nt the first one to mention his distracting play style. I was just wanting him to confirm himself as a mastin alt.

[Papa Zito]

Wow.. you guys took that the wrong way, but okay... I wasn'nt the first one to mention his distracting play style. I was just wanting him to confirm himself as a mastin alt.

No, you weren't. You just latched onto it as a reason for a vote.

Even after agreeing that the ConsonantM wagon was bad.

[cateraction]

So annoying, not helpful.

Vote: ConsonantM

[Kmd4390]

i'm calling bs.

What is pro-town about getting us out of the RVS fast?

It's nice, sure, but there's nothing either pro-town or anti-town about it.

You are seriously asking me why it's protown to get out of the RVS? Well, it starts the actual game. It gets real discussion going. We can start to scumhunt. And if we never did it, we'd be jokelynching which is something we wouldn't want. So yeah. It's protown to get out of the RVS. Note that I am not saying it's protown to do something weird and say "K, now we're out of the RVS" or to do something scummy to "get reactions" to get us out of the RVS.

Y lie?

My actions were meant to kill the RVS.
That was my intention.
Y hide that intention?

Theres no reason i can think of.
So I state it. Plain and simple. i wanted us out of the RVS so i could scum hunt, and it worked.

And what do u mean, defeat the purpose, neway? That it stalls discussion? Clearly not true. That it steals away suspects? Definitely not. That it gives us pro-town players? i fail to see how that'd happen in a non-forced way any less than in a forced way.

The best way to get out of the RVS is to draw attention to a serious point. If you were to do that while saying "Are we out of the RVS now? lol", it would take away from the seriousness of it.

Basically, my issue is that you did something just to appear protown and you went out of your way to make sure we knew you were doing it.

So?
U still haven't explained y an admittedly forced technique 2 get us out of the RVS is scummy, when the guy using it is just bing honest about his intentions:
To start playing

See, this is what I'm talking about. "Oh, I'm an honest townie. I just want to play the game." Not buying it.

Oh, quite the opposite. i do it 2 look bad.
I get us debating. Said discussion is mainly on me, making me look bad.

Um...what?

Why would you WANT to look bad..

And if that's the case, why are you defending yourself so much?

What more bs accusations will u thro against me now, KMD, that i shot your current ones full of holes?

Pfffffffffftttttttttttt

Interesting. Being vague generally is a scum tell 2 most ppl.

Examples?

i might, i might not. Reminding me later will likely jog my memory if i forget later on, tho.

I thought so until I saw it so much.

Most examples are ongoing. Ironically, the only finished example I have came from scum (and he never came back to it until asked).

Why ARE you witholding it?

Or what? You'll dayvig me? Ur already voting me.

Dont tempt me.

I simply find his game play detracting and want it gone

So you don't think M is scum, but you want him lynched anyway?

[Mufasa]

He could be scum, at this point kinda hard to tell, he is very annoying

[Kmd4390]

He

could be

scum, at this point kinda hard to tell, he is very annoying

Why are you voting him for a reason other than "I think he is scum"?

[Mufasa]

Because I can I suppose, I just don't find his constant wall posts pro town at all.

[Sajin]

Because I can I suppose, I just don't find his constant wall posts pro town at all.

Why not? Annoying does not equate to scummy. Voting for somone because they annoy you is an excellent excuse for voting a protown player.

Based on meta, he usually posts walls regardless of alignment. Is there any other reasoning you have? I think his walls cause discussion and even though I find it annoying as well, I also find it useful.

Does anyone else find it odd that OGML was boosted that fast with little to no reason other than being well known? Regardless of popularity, I suspect scum of being on that boost wagon.

[Wiirdo]

Can somebody please explain what a boost does exactly? I still don't get this.

Also,@ Empking, I thought it was strange that it was a vote really quickly after the FoS for lurking. I don't read the memberlist, so I wouldn't know if he's telling the truth.

[Papa Zito]

Can somebody please explain what a boost does exactly? I still don't get this.

Also,@ Empking, I thought it was strange that it was a vote really quickly after the FoS for lurking. I don't read the memberlist, so I wouldn't know if he's telling the truth.

...

I thought you said you read the first game.

[Kmd4390]

Also, can somebody explain what the boost does? I searched for the first Boost Mafia but can't find it.

Can somebody please explain what a boost does exactly? I still don't get this.

I just found the first game and noticed that the scum PMs specifically say that the town may not know much about boosts and to be careful what you reveal. This makes me suspicious of Wiirdo as I think he has more info than the rest of us and is hiding it here. And he can also find out how much the town knows by asking this.

[Kise]

Vote: Mufasa

Cateration could be lynched for the same reason. M's posts are only not helpful if you don't bother to read through it and find the gems. Really, Mufasa, that was a crappy reason to vote for M.

Unboost: semioldguy
Boost: Sajin

[Kmd4390]

Unboost Tajo
Boost Papa Zito

[semioldguy]

My random vote can now be considered a serious vote.

Unboost: MissTake
Unboost: OhGodMyLife

[Wiirdo]

I'm suspicious because I don't know what a boost is?

I just checked it there and seems to basically give people powers, but I'm not sure what they are, so it's better to be safe than sorry. Meh, I'll see when somebody claims.

[Papa Zito]

Eh.

So in Boost 1, the town power roles and the mafia would start out with a one-shot power. If they were boosted once, they'd (usually) gain full use of their abilities. e.g. a 1-shot vig becomes a regular vig. A second boost grants an additional power; our example vig above got an NK immunity if he didn't vig someone that night. A third boost would do nothing.

Sidebar: In Boost 1 each side also had a night booster, so theoretically a player could be fully boosted in the space of a single fay/night cycle.

Not saying it works exactly like this here, tho it's prolly similar.

[Wiirdo]

Ah, I see. Still a bit risky at this point.

[Sajin]

You should be boosting people you think are pro town. The likelihood of you randomly boosting a town person is greater than you randomly boosting a scum. Your reading of the game should give you insight to peoples alignment and an informed decision should increase your odds. It is a necessary risk.

In the mini the scum could boost one of their own once per night to unlock their abilities. Assuming the same is true here or at least similar, not boosting anyone puts us at a disadvantage.

[Kmd4390]

I'm suspicious because I don't know what a boost is?

I think you know what a boost is, but don't know how much the town knows. Of course I'm assuming based on the other game, so that's pretty weak. I just thought it was worth discussing though.

Wait..

Meh, I'll see when somebody claims.

What is a claim going to tell you about boosts that you don't already know?

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Wiirdo, who do you find scummy?

[ConsonantM]

I'm not gonna vote for anybody yet, as it's still pretty random.

By God, y'd i waste my time looking scummy in order 2 get discussion going...when there are ppl as scummy as this already around?
(i wish i were a double [or even triple] voter. :/)

We're out of the RVS. That's not random.
U seriously have no suspects?

Also, can somebody explain what the boost does?

In Boost 1, it made power roles more powerful, as well as scum.

Unvote

Vote: Cons

Yay 4 mindless bandwagoning! <_<

FoS: Kise - Posting not to be called a lurker.

Yea...again, with all these scummy players around, y can i only vote 4 one? :/

Sir T's town. Simple as that.

FoS: Sir Tornado

Y no vote?

That vote felt a little scummy to me.

Y?
What made voting 4 someone not wanting 2 b labeled a lurker...scummy?

The ConsonantM wagon is useless.

i love it when ppl make sense.

@ConsonantM: Food for thought: You've dragged us, kicking and screaming, out of RVS.

Yup.

However, you've also provided a nice big beach umbrella for the scum to hide under.

Meh, i disagree.

wow I am in two games with mastin at the same time

Who r u?

first off I find his play very distracting, and yes papa zito wagons on him are useless, unless the wagon is to lynch him of course.

Now, this is scummy. Explain how scum hunting, my current play, is "distracting", and how a wagon on me isn't supposed to lead to a lynch, and how a lynch of me is beneficial. If u can, that is.

However, he plays this way all the time, so never anything that can be drawn from the format of his posting.

If this is tru, then y would it b a tell of any kind?

Vote: ConstantM

Rant time.
[rant]
There's a trick 2 remember my name:

I'm an inconsistently full ant.

The name is ConsonantM, not ConsonentM. ConsonANTm, vs ConsonENTm. An ant, not a walking, talking tree (an ent).

ConsM is a common abbreviation of my name. ConsM, not Consume. Consume implies hungry, so the opposite is full.

ConstantM is a common typo of my name. So, to remember it is NOT Constant, think inconsistent.

Hence, inconsistently full ant.
Remember it.[/rant]

For his lack of ability of making a post that doesn't contain more than one quote per a sentence

This is not scummy. Explain 2 me how this is a scumtell; prove me wrong.

and his unanswered question to being the alt of Mastin.

i am ConsonantM. Nothing else matters.

Apparently.

he forces upon himself a target and most mods know who he is so maybe they would be more than likely not to give him a scum role

If this were tru, wouldn't it mean mods would NOT give me a scum role, hence, I should NOT be voted?

Yea...Mufasa will get my vote when Semi answers my concerns.

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Got 2 leave, now. B back soon enough.

[Kmd4390]

Yea...Mufasa will get my vote when Semi answers my concerns.

Are you saying that whatever Semi says, you'll be ok with his answers? Scumbuddy found.