Phables: Death Note Mafia (Game Over)

[mykonian]

Page one: the only thing that stands out is LC's asking for the mod, and Magnus directing the vig.

page two: zeenon tries to protect Mastin by saying he can't be killed? (zeenon, why? it still would get rid of a potential deathnote)
post 30, LC jokingly agrees with Magnus on letting a vig do the work?

LC ad hom defends against Kai, who is more townlike in my eyes.

Page 4, fresh players. Orto votes LC, but it seems more of a random vote. Orto's post 87 is a jokingly "defense"

On this moment, I'm really doubting there would be a lot scum players out there. Just not a lot that have said something.

Page 5 KMD also directs the vig, on mastin. He votes Benmage for a late random vote.

LC also asks for it. (vig)

I think post 123 by LC (case on Kai) doesn't add a thing. It is just a new opening, hoping that other will follow (not a chance)

Page 6

I signed in to see the rvs 'over' thats no fun, plus i only had time than to skim, and i wanted to post. Trying to wagon already...scummy

FoS Kmd

Unvote vote Mastin

i didn't like his odd claiming in rvs, and his short quoting/mass one-liners is both annoying, and imo a distraction.

wagon? KMD's vote was the first one... This post can't get worse, I think.

132 Phily also asks for a vig. People, seriously, since when became it popular to direct the vig?

Page 7 zwet votes mastin, because he never playes this way?



I'm getting nothing out of reading now anymore. I'm most suspicious of Benmage, till now, and I have absolutely no idea why everybody was asking the vig to kill mastin.

Votecount
Kise - 3 (Starbuck, ortolan, populartajo)
mykonian - 2 (LlamaFluff,

cateraction

)
Spolium - 1 (Kmd4390)
Lamont_Cranston - 1 (magnus_orion)
Kairyuu - 1 (Spolium)
ZEEnon - 1 (WeyounsLastClone)
Not voting: zwetschenwasser, Kairyuu, Benmage,

ZazieR

, Jebus, Budja, Gorrad, Albert B. Rampage,

semioldguy

, Kise, Seraphim, Stephoscope, ZEEnon, PhilyEc, Lamont_Cranston, mykonian

The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.

With 25 alive, it's 13 to lynch.

[ortolan]

myk's 675 is almost all information instead of analysis.

I type my posts in notepad as I read through every page. While he was still alive & while I was reading/catching up, Mastin's name was green in the vote counts, and I initially thought it meant that he was under mod-review because I assumed that any lynch/kill would have ended the day phase. But as I kept reading further into the thread, I noticed Mastin had been killed and his name was green to confirm his town alignment. I'm not sure whether I used post-preview, but I obviously did not go back to correct myself when I claimed that Mastin's name was green due to possible mod-review (or did I say everything in separate posts, orto?).

ok

Purely speculation on your part, although I admire how you scumhunt by leaving no stone unturned. Good observation, but are you implying that Magnus & myself somehow planned to have that little convo? Even if we were partners, there's no way we could communicate during the day (1) phase. I suppose it's not important/relevant for you to answer, since I don't have a reason to make a case against you (this is my way of saying you come across as pro-town), but feel free to address this question if you want.

You are ruling out the possibility of scum day-talking? Also why is the fact this is day one rather than any other day relevant to whether you might be able to daytalk as scum? Also why do you find me pro-town?

Kmd, why do you think zwet is lying but still have a neutral read of him? Whatever happened to lynch all liars?

[Lamont_Cranston]

You guys really need to post less. You put up something like six pages while im at work, and I usually am in the field so I cant even sneak in a post untill I get back to the office and am inputting data. Enough of my little bitching about the game too fast though.

For zwet, I believe his claim. Ive been half-watching the anime over again since I signed up for this, and it makes a lot of sense sans-lover part of the role. IIRC, the wife started hunting for kira after Mastin died.

Other stuff since im a little short on time now: I still like my myk vote quite a bit at this point. Zazie, zee and philly are giving me town reads early on.

I've had similar thoughts based on what I've read in thread here about Penbar.

[Lamont_Cranston]

@Kai:

Why were you so convinced that death notes cannot be used as gunfire?

[Lamont_Cranston]

@All:

What is the case for scum starting out with death notes? Is there

any

actual reason to believe this?

[mykonian]

myk's 675 is almost all information instead of analysis.

myk's 675 is almost all things that myk didn't like in the play of others. But myk understands that directing the vig can hardly be called a scumtell, when the majority of the players does it

[mykonian]

@All:

What is the case for scum starting out with death notes? Is there

any

actual reason to believe this?

what is scum?

the deathnotes should come from the shinigami, seen the story. So if you include shinigami with scum, then yes, I believe that would be true.

[PhilyEc]

@All:

What is the case for scum starting out with death notes? Is there

any

actual reason to believe this?

what is scum?

the deathnotes should come from the shinigami, seen the story. So if you include shinigami with scum, then yes, I believe that would be true.

Why does this matteeeeerrrrr...lets see whos acting scummy okay?

[Lamont_Cranston]

I find it unlikely that Mastin's death was deathnote related as he was shot. This would require control of the shooter which while possible seems much less likely than an ordinary kill.

Ok:

1) On the examples in the series of a death note being used to simulate a specific kill method, is

control

of a person required to bring about the death type specified?

2) Could a shooting kill type be specified

without

having to control an actual gunman?

[ZazieR]

First reason: Misa Misa *shrug* She still has many fanboys in her posession. They'd do anything to please her, even teling their names (and place of living obv as well >.<) This is why Misa Misa is dangerous and should be stopped

She always has shinigami eyes! -.- Don't you think that would let her see names far easier?

It indeed is far easier. However, there are three reasons why she doesn't do this:
1. She gains pleasure from abusing her fans.
2. Due to her shinigami eyes, she found her boyfriend. She sees this as a sign of love.
3. We're talking about Misa Misa >.< As if she would ever come up with this reason.

[Lamont_Cranston]

@All:

What is the case for scum starting out with death notes? Is there

any

actual reason to believe this?

what is scum?

the deathnotes should come from the shinigami, seen the story. So if you include shinigami with scum, then yes, I believe that would be true.

Clearly this game has 3 factions: Anti-Kira (Town), Kira (Mafi) & Shingami (Neutrals). So to restate:

Is there

any

reason to believe (from actual series examples) that Kira would start out with death notes?

[ZazieR]

Zee gets town points because you're hella crazy to buddy up to Mastin unless you actually believe what you're saying.

If you're talking about his stance towards Mastin's claim, yes, what he wrote was exactly what he meant. He believed it.

I have no idea what to make of Zazier's post 128.

See my first post in the sign-up topic. It's based upon that.

Lamont has a good point about Kai finding Mastin obvscum. I, too, felt he was buddying very strongly. The point is equally valid on myk and kise, Lamont is growing more town in my eyes. Maybe Mastin really did rub him the wrong way. But there are other alighments so I don't know. IGMEOY

Eh? Didn't Kai think Mastin was obvtown? So I think you meant to say that.
Anyway, why is ZEE not included in this list as buddy upper?

[ZazieR]

@All:

What is the case for scum starting out with death notes? Is there

any

actual reason to believe this?

what is scum?

the deathnotes should come from the shinigami, seen the story. So if you include shinigami with scum, then yes, I believe that would be true.

Clearly this game has 3 factions: Anti-Kira (Town), Kira (Mafi) & Shingami (Neutrals). So to restate:

Is there

any

reason to believe (from actual series examples) that Kira would start out with death notes?

Well, I think that scum at least have one Death Note. How else can they be pro-Kira when there's no Kira?
And yes, the real Kira found a Death Note right at the start of the serie. The others came later.

[Lamont_Cranston]

ABR is massively lurking. He has 7 posts this entire game. He seems to have strong knowledge of this game and it would be nice to hear him participate more...

[Spolium]

@All:

What is the case for scum starting out with death notes? Is there

any

actual reason to believe this?

- If scum could kill of their own accord, why would the town win when the death notes are gone? The logical answer is that death notes are required for scum kills.

- Without the ability to kill, scum's only means of gaining death notes would be by driving lynches against Shinigami and hoping that they gain the death note against the odds.

- However, there are likely 2-3 death notes in the game. For scum to be able to kill normally AND obtain these seems overpowered.

I would surmise, therefore, that the scum start with at least one death note (possibly two, in case one is found early).

The flavour also supports this; the story itself kicks off when one of the Shinigami drops his death note in the human world, allowing a human to pick it up and start using it.

[ZazieR]

EBWOP >.<
Them = Kise and ZEE

You is smart in the head.

Is this you mocking me as I forgot to include who 'them' were in the first post, or you agreeing with me?
Also, the above post proves that I'm not Misa Misa, as nobody can say that about Misa Misa XD

[Lamont_Cranston]

@All:

What is the case for scum starting out with death notes? Is there

any

actual reason to believe this?

what is scum?

the deathnotes should come from the shinigami, seen the story. So if you include shinigami with scum, then yes, I believe that would be true.

Clearly this game has 3 factions: Anti-Kira (Town), Kira (Mafi) & Shingami (Neutrals). So to restate:

Is there

any

reason to believe (from actual series examples) that Kira would start out with death notes?

Well, I think that scum at least have one Death Note. How else can they be pro-Kira when there's no Kira?
And yes, the real Kira found a Death Note right at the start of the serie. The others came later.

Ok then I seriously want to know how

Kai

could of missed this. What do you think about my questions concerning specifying kill methods for notes?

[Lamont_Cranston]

I find it unlikely that Mastin's death was deathnote related as he was shot. This would require control of the shooter which while possible seems much less likely than an ordinary kill.

Ok:

1) On the examples in the series of a death note being used to simulate a specific kill method, is

control

of a person required to bring about the death type specified?

2) Could a shooting kill type be specified

without

having to control an actual gunman?

[ZazieR]

@All:

What is the case for scum starting out with death notes? Is there

any

actual reason to believe this?

what is scum?

the deathnotes should come from the shinigami, seen the story. So if you include shinigami with scum, then yes, I believe that would be true.

Clearly this game has 3 factions: Anti-Kira (Town), Kira (Mafi) & Shingami (Neutrals). So to restate:

Is there

any

reason to believe (from actual series examples) that Kira would start out with death notes?

Well, I think that scum at least have one Death Note. How else can they be pro-Kira when there's no Kira?
And yes, the real Kira found a Death Note right at the start of the serie. The others came later.

Ok then I seriously want to know how

Kai

could of missed this. What do you think about my questions concerning specifying kill methods for notes?

Can you direct me to it for now? I'm still updating the last posts.

[ZazieR]

I find it unlikely that Mastin's death was deathnote related as he was shot. This would require control of the shooter which while possible seems much less likely than an ordinary kill.

Ok:

1) On the examples in the series of a death note being used to simulate a specific kill method, is

control

of a person required to bring about the death type specified?

2) Could a shooting kill type be specified

without

having to control an actual gunman?

>.< Stupid simulpost >.<
Uhm, if I remember correctly, you just have to write down that your victim gets shot. If you'd do that, he'd just be shot by somebody who'd be at the place and time you wrote down.
Does this answer your questions? If not, could you rephrase them?

[Lamont_Cranston]

I find it unlikely that Mastin's death was deathnote related as he was shot. This would require control of the shooter which while possible seems much less likely than an ordinary kill.

Ok:

1) On the examples in the series of a death note being used to simulate a specific kill method, is

control

of a person required to bring about the death type specified?

2) Could a shooting kill type be specified

without

having to control an actual gunman?

>.< Stupid simulpost >.<
Uhm, if I remember correctly, you just have to write down that your victim gets shot. If you'd do that, he'd just be shot by somebody who'd be at the place and time you wrote down.
Does this answer your questions? If not, could you rephrase them?

Umm, OK then why is

Budja

hung up on

control

of a person required to produce a death note kill...

I'm really starting to see Spoilum as town here.

[ZazieR]

May I see how I voted for Kise, based on a reasoning where I was included? I thought we voted Kise because he thought Mastin town, while I thought a long time Mastin was shinigami without a deathnote.

Uhm, no. That was not the reason why Kise was voted, just part of it.
But if you thought this was the reason why didn't you state any suspicions towards those players who saw Mastin as town besides Kise?

[Lamont_Cranston]

I'd like Kai to respond to Spoilum's assertions.

Vote Kai

[PhilyEc]

PBPA of PhilyEc;
Don't like this speculation over defining scum. Lets lynch scummy people kay?

ortolan

<- Dont like his posts much, he points out what look like flaws in gameplay rather than scummy posts. I'd like to hear opinions from him to be honest.

zwetschenwasser

<- Town read, has flawed logic when it came to deciding to claim then.

cateraction

<- Has a town read on KMD, clear null tell at the moment and Zeenon, someone suspected by at least me Zaz and Wes.

Kairyuu

<- Has a good town-dar in my opinion, inclined to see him as town for now.

mykonian

<- Not playing at his best, didnt like how he's played but his vote on Magnus seemed genuine, null read for now.

Kmd4390

<- "I'd like him dead, but I don't want to use a lynch on him." on Mastin, makes me suspect him since he said Mastin wasnt scum in this post. Thinks "Benmage is scum" over something bout elephants in the RVS, keeps his vote from then. Scum read on him.

Benmage

<- Scummy, but cant see him as scum, more scum food. They'll be offering him to town as a sacrifice at some point in my opinion.

ZazieR

<- ObvTown, her posts are great.

magnus_orion

<- Playing strangely to be honest, usually his scumdar is reallly good, hes able to pin point scum but can never convince the town for a lynch. In this case he cant do either. Scum read due to differences hes showing.

Jebus

<- We wont be hearing from him soon, thats for sure.

populartajo

<- Quite quickly proves himself to be town. I like his posts so far. Town read.

Budja

<- Null read. Not aiming at anyone though I'd say hes struggling to keep up.

Gorrad

<- Town read, hes looking towards my suspect Magnus alot.

Albert B. Rampage

<- Null read.

Starbuck

<- Suspects Lamont. Agrees with Lamont's case and suspects Kise. For each suspicion she delivered a vote. Has made alot of 'yeah that sounds right' posts when quoting others. Scummy vibes from her.

semioldguy

<- Suspects Myk, this is understandable and I'd be doing the same had I not experience Polygamist with him, he wasnt that good as town there either.

Kise

<- This guy is different to your average scummer in my opinion. I've not liked one of his posts but due to poor logic and dodging questions.

Seraphim

<- Null read, he seems busy at the moment.

Stephoscope

<- Hasn't made any votes. Claims nothing scummy has gone on in his 6th post. Asks KMD and Zee for opinions. Town read on them maybe? I wouldnt agree with him there. Null-Scum tell.

ZEEnon

<- Quite jumpy when I mentioned his name as one of the people who looked scummy when Mastin died, the others didnt get phased but he went on to make a large post about why he's innocent. Scummy read.

Spolium

<- I like his posts, I like who hes looking at. Town read.

LlamaFluff

<- Town read also, hes showing a genuine thought pattern and participating openly. I like his posts also. Town read.

WeyounsLastClone

<- Voted a strong suspect of mine. Nice. Town read.

Lamont_Cranston

<- Null read, his scummy moves can be mistaken for over aggresiveness.

Scum if I had to guess them right now are; Zeenon, Starbuck, KMD, Magnus. Those are sure-fires in my eyes.

[PhilyEc]

EBWOP >.<
Them = Kise and ZEE

You is smart in the head.

Is this you mocking me as I forgot to include who 'them' were in the first post, or you agreeing with me?
Also, the above post proves that I'm not Misa Misa, as nobody can say that about Misa Misa XD

Nuu, you is smart for figuring Zee as scum.