VP Baltar wrote:Plum, what do you think of Llama? You said you were going to prepare a case on him, but now seem to have abandoned that for repeating your points against me. I read them the first time, and I'm sure everyone else did as well. I'd like to see your analysis of Llama now.
I was busy today and my first priority has been refuting you. Nevertheless, I did pledge to put together some thoughts on Llama, so I'll do what I may. May I first ask you if/when you plan to respond to my
new
points against you and my
new refutations
of your counterarguments to my original case?
Llama, oh, Llama, whatever shall we do with you?
All right. First things I notice are lack of explanation for random vote, which I find compellingly null, possibly more interesting in the random stage, but whatever. Funnily enough, his random vote is on VP Baltar. I'll note that as a funky coincidence for now.
His next post questions Myko a lot, but the one after that is all about Zilla - he votes her here with almost no prior warning or indication that such was the way he was leaning. Having reread Page 2, where the doublevoter and rolefishing shenanigans originated, his read of things seems a little more understandable (it might be the fact that I stepped in slightly after this stuff had started, but I'm not the only one who read Zilla's original 'doublevote' post as a completely obvious joke, am I?). The weird part here was that Zilla's vote on Porkens came on page two, the offness on the subject Llama objected to was noted over the course of page three (where Llama made the post which basically focused on questioning Myko) . . . and he didn't change his professed completely reasonless vote on VP Baltar until midway Page 4 when he makes his early Zilla case. It's a bit odd, but it's early game and not
very
odd. And, if I recall, the game was moving fairly quickly at this point. He does later say that he was waiting on giving his feelings on Zilla a bit for sorta odd reasons - he was confirming 'where Myko was going' (all right, that's a paraphrase) and then voted, and that made him more comfortable with Myko, because they were thinking along the same lines (can I ask what you thought of me at the time, out of sheerest curiosity?).
All right, I have ten minutes left and surely that last paragraph could've been more efficient.
Call for Porkens to fullclaim is bad, and especially shady is the fact that in the post where he calls for that full claim he writes:
LlamaFluff wrote:I see basically no way Porkens is scum without two scum teams in this game. Very small but there is a SK who can only make day kills, but he is nearly certain town with that kill.
The fact that he rags a bit on Porkens for using his kill when he did is also weird. Personally, I like Vigs to kill scum however they can get it, whether it's technically 'correct' according to Mafia Theory or not (though heaven knows I'm a fairly conservative Vig who also happens to generally be a pretty poor shot).
Then he basically lurks. Post comes with little substance but 'No, I'm not commenting right now, but stuff will happen probs, and also I want to hear stuff from unspecified persons'.
LlamaFluff wrote:I disagree with how its used, thats not something that makes him someone to lynch, just reckless. I still kind of want him to roleclaim though. With a role more descriptive then "mafia" shown already, something just flipping "One shot day vig" is odd.
First of all, no - (one-shot) Day Vig is not
exactly
a bread-and-butter role. Second - no, he shouldn't be roleclaiming, and also why do you want that if you think he's pretty unlikely scum?
Then the VP case, which is basically the general VP case -
I need to go. This going up now. Good night, friends.
