Mafia 93 - A Roccisi Summer - Over!

[tubby216]

ok seraphim needs to claim like now stop half assin this.

because by draggin it out and monopolizing the disscussion on you is anti town.


i am content to vote for either dark dude or seraphim.

dark dude if you are town take an anti-depressant and play the game but if your scumm drink a fith of jack daneils and try to suck start a 12 gauge

[tubby216]

btw that post was about your role , not you personally i think your pretty awesome as a person

[darkdude]

IF you're not scum, after the game I'll be happy to elaborate on why that feels like a gigantic pile of mess.

Why must it wait? It's supposed to be something incriminating, right? If you cannot reveal it you cannot say it is a point against me.

I just see no reason why me saying that I believe seraphim's claim is scummy. I knew why I had votes before due to lurking and not doing much, but this is something I don't understand.

[TDC]

Vote Count

darkdude (5): X, iamausername, charter, Seraphim, Caboose
Seraphim (3): Korts, ekiM, SpyreX
HowardRoark (1): populartajo
populartajo (1): HowardRoark


Not Voting (4): tubby216, darkdude, Mixologist, Axelrod

8 to lynch.

[tubby216]

well out of the two i believe seraphim to be the most anti town at this point and since competeing wagons are so win

vote serphim

- for half ass claiming

[iamausername]

As far as I can see, there's only one way for Seraphim to be telling the truth about everything he's claimed, and it's something that his neighbour will be able to verify. I don't think there's a lot to lose by his neighbour claiming, and there's a lot to gain, either by exposing him as a liar, or by confirming his claim so that we can focus on lynching actual scum, like darkdude.

[tubby216]

or seraphim could stop pussyfooting around and full claim, and that would fix alot too,, forcing his neighbor out seems alot like fishing and alot to ask

[Korts]

Sorry for the lack of posting, I've had a tough weekend. I'll catch up tomorrow.

[SpyreX]

Why must it wait? It's supposed to be something incriminating, right? If you cannot reveal it you cannot say it is a point against me.

I just see no reason why me saying that I believe seraphim's claim is scummy. I knew why I had votes before due to lurking and not doing much, but this is something I don't understand.

Just because YOU can't see it doesn't mean its there. Additionally, a minor point like that IS classic wiggling room to escape a lynch. Not happening unless, after the game, I know your inquiry is honest.

The neighbor would help issues, but regardless something needs to be done asap.

[X]

Wow, lot of activity since I last posted. darkdude is still definitely scum, but nothing has developed in terms of him since then.

Now, Seraphim...

No point in keeping this secret.

I'm Seraphim's

only

neighbor, in the Lower Roccisi Neighborhood

. The

group

has a Soloist Vigilante ability. So his claim is possibly true, although I'm not certain that he's Town. I'm not claiming the rest of my role.

So I did a re-read of the game, focusing on anything that included Seraphim.

Just noticed that Korts singled out Seraphim for jumping on Mufasa, when he didn't do it to charter. Odd.

inHimshallIbe: I'm sorry but your first post reads scum to me...

Why apologize for a read on alignment? Are you shyly bussing?

Italian tell on Seraphim.

Before you insult people, perhaps you could try scumhunting yourself? Seeing as, you know, your few posts only outline people as stupid, not scum. Now that you've outed the stupid people, maybe you can out the scum too?

To alvinz95, so a not-Russian tell.

Looking back at some of the wagon patterns on Mufasa, I'm returning to my Seraphim vote.

A not-Italian tell.

EkiM: I wasn't worried. Mufasa was going to have no lack of votes sO I decided to pressure another player instead who is another lead of possible scum. Why are so intent on seeing Mufasa lynched so early in the game?

That's a nice explanation except that it's false. In 151 you asked a couple of people weak questions and unvoted mufasa saying "I don't like the speed of this wagon". 156 was defense. In 181 You voted skitzer, thanking rofl for giving you a target. So no, you didn't unvote Mufasa to pressure another player. Why lie?

A generic scumtell.

Some valid points at the beginning of roflcopter's 356 = Italian tells.

Unnecessary Neighbor claim = generic scumtell.

I think I agree that darkdude looks more like inept town than scum right now.

Well, this opinion changed. Let's see where/why it changes. Okay, it's based on the alvinz95 flip.

Good Votes:
Rofl - has laid out a case against me being linked to ThAdmiral...I'll get to debunking this case later in this post.

Korts - You don't give up, do you? Rather than saying that everything I say is scummy, why not actually post a case? Are all my posts scummy? Why? Please, enlighten me.

Why do you have Korts listed under "good votes?" This doesn't read like you think it's a good vote.

This deserves a response.

Don't think this got a response.

Why did I claim? It decreased the probability of me being scum. Alvinz's flip decreased that chance again

The first part is a little scummy (him coming to that conclusion so quickly), but I'm more apt to believe that he's town with 2 dead Mafiosi/Neighbors.

I want to know if he plans on investigating me tonight. He may or may not get a guilty depending on what investigative role he actually has.

Still bad rolefishing.

I have no real conclusion. darkdude's more likely scum (Russian) than Seraphim (Italian), but they're not mutually exclusive. Seraphim looks somewhat scummy in my eyes, partially based on what he said Today. However, I didn't want people calling the things that he has claimed a scumtell, because I know it's not. When he claimed...yeah.

[Seraphim]

Hmm. Yeah. I confirm this. He's my neighbor.

Back on that, I thought Korts was a good vote because he had outlined some reasons he had thought I was scummy early on the game. I was pissed at him because he hadn't updated that list and still continued to keep my vote on me.

I'm not claiming the rest of my abilities.

[SpyreX]

God thank you X. X is tech. Do NOT let Sera control your damn kill as it sits.
And, the whole "gunsmith" thing considering the group of you has a gun and not one of you sits even odder but:

Unvote, Vote: Darkdude.

[Seraphim]

I'm extremely insulted. I'm not as idiotic as this game would seem to indicate.

[SpyreX]

I'm not saying anything as you as a player(believe me I dont dig that).

I'm saying simply that the play is questionable enough that I wouldn't trust you with a bullet at the mo'.

[Seraphim]

Point taken. It's just my intelligence has been questioned several times during this game. Don't question my intelligence. Question my sanity. Then my play makes sense. Kinda. Mostly.

[SpyreX]

I'm down with insane. It makes things better some days.

[tubby216]

does that last exchange seem weird to anyone else? please review posts 585 through 590,,

[Seraphim]

does that last exchange seem weird to anyone else? please review posts 585 through 590,,

How is it weird?

[SpyreX]

Sera thoguht I was attacking THEM as a person/player. I clarified I wasn't. We then held hands a little bit and made up because Sera is fine by me.

It doesn't change anything in regards to the game as whole, just a reminder we're playing with human beings.

[tubby216]

does that last exchange seem weird to anyone else? please review posts 585 through 590,,

How is it weird?

i'm not quite sure yet thats why i was askin,

Here s the deal I have never been confirmed town before, normally i am a canadate for lynch all the time, or i am just town enough not to get lynched and just scummy enough not to get nk'd.
so i figured the best way for me to play is to be hyper active on the thread and post my thoughts about everything i see or don't see. Does that make sense?

[SpyreX]

It does as long as you dont just give open ended statements.

You are town, give all the reasoning you can with the understanding that players are taking it without the normal grain of salt that it is some kind of scum machinations pushing it.

[tubby216]

ok i will try my hardest to less vague and mor eon point with my posts does that count?

[SpyreX]

Hehe, don't take direction from me. I'm just saying that as confirmed you have a bit more weight. Use it.

[darkdude]

ust because YOU can't see it doesn't mean its there. Additionally, a minor point like that IS classic wiggling room to escape a lynch. Not happening unless, after the game, I know your inquiry is honest.

So you are saying it is not necessary for you to do anything when asked to elaborate on something you've pointed out as only having "a few [reasons] for a town to leave it at that"...

[SpyreX]

Right now, nope.