You read my most recent explanation about confirmation of my role, does this quote make more sense now?muzzz wrote:If you were aware that at least two people (you, cateraction) knew about Spartacus then you shouldn't have been surprised that a third person (pads) also knew.BloodCovenent wrote:Can you explain that a little more? How would this make my attack on Pads bogus?
Wait? Howso?muzzz wrote:At this point, anyone not claiming Spartacus is either absent or a complete idiot.
–Already talking about claiming three pages into the game.muzzz wrote:It's extremely likely that what you're asking is, in practice, the same as asking "If you got a different role PM than most of us, please let us know." What on earth could that possibly do for us, except potentially force a powerrole to claim?
Oh, so you want claims, you just don’t want to be the one that forces them?muzzz wrote:Yeah. I already have strong suspicion that two specific players didn't get exactly the same information about Spartacus that I did. I'm currently thinking very, very hard about how much the scum be able to see.
I'm afraid we might have to force some claims today. We should probably try our best to avoid that.
Very good, of course we didn’t get the same PM’s. As I stated previously, I have reason to believe that everyone was given mention to the name Spartacus in their PM’s.muzzz wrote:I completely agree with Ortolan's reply to BC. I'm 99% certain that BC didnotget the same PM as I did. The same goes for Fishy and, by association, Ash. Lazarus just seems scummy.
Also, I have no reason to assume that people claiming Spartacus are more likely to be townies.
We should probably lynch Lazarus today. But before that, I'd like to bandwagon BC into a claim.
If you truly know, then why don’t you keep to yourself, or defend me if I get bandwagoned? You could of saved town a lot of trouble. And now you’re telling me that I need to get claim before I get Night Killed. Or, why not, if we have a doc, and he noticed the same thing you did, wouldn’t he most likely save me Night 1? You’ve only been around for a few months, unless you’re an alt, how did you pick up on something that is so specifically town play, when I myself considered it to be a generic scum hunting.muzzz wrote:After his most recent post, I am absolutely, positively, one-hundred-percent certain that BC isnota generic townie. If I figured it out than it's extremely likely that the scum did as well. So BC needs to claim before he gets NK'ed.
Do I need to be any more explicit?
This jackass even threatened to lynch me if I didn’t claim.muzzz wrote:
But that aside, you're right in that we should lynch BC if he refuses the claim.
If you don’t believe my claim, then flat out say it.muzzz wrote: I think it would be safest to assume as little as possible. In particular, I consider it entirely possibly that the scum were at least aware of the existence of a Spartacus role.
this is the dumbest idea ever. If it were true, my role would have activated by now.muzzz wrote:Hmmm, hadn't thought about this. I'm liking the idea, though.lazarusmoth wrote:I'm thinking Spartacus claims activate this power.
cateraction wrote:This. Anyone else see what I'm saying?muzzz wrote:Hmmm, hadn't thought about this. I'm liking the idea, though.lazarusmoth wrote:I'm thinking Spartacus claims activate this power.
This makes sense to me.cateraction wrote:Sorry, the "again" was because that was my reason for voting BC. I now apply it to you. I was told that claiming spartacus would be advantageous and the fact that you did not think it would be a power up leads me to believe that you did not receive a spartacus role. Hence the vote.
because you just said that you liked the idea.muzzz wrote:Did your role PM contain the word "may"?cateraction wrote:Sorry, the "again" was because that was my reason for voting BC. I now apply it to you. I was told that claiming spartacus would be advantageous and the fact that you did not think it would be a power up leads me to believe that you did not receive a spartacus role. Hence the vote.
And why should I think it would be a power-up? Did you consider the possibility that Empkingisfollowing the script? That Spartacus is an important target for the bad guys, and that we all claim to be him to confuse them?
BloodCovenent wrote:Yes, If not, they have some reference in their PM that leads them to believe there are players that are labeled as Spartacus. If said players are without the Spartacus involved roles, and they themselves were given scum roles, why wouldn't they try to hide themselves in a pro-town role. Or even after they found out that Spartacus is Pro-Town, they would try to hide themselves. It's the classic wolf in a sheep's clothing.muzzz wrote:Are you saying that everyone, scum and whatnot included, is a Spartican?
Say, some one is scum, and the majority of the town believes that a spartacus role is pro-town, of course the scum is going to claim Spartacus.
But you seem completely against this idea, making me believe that you never had "Spartacus" mentioned in your PM. This also leads me to believe that you are not pro-town.
Unvote:
Vote:Muzzz
Ok, as soon as you see my response, you try to say that we have a misunderstanding. The thing is, everyone that knew of Spartacus, regardless of alignment, will claim it, because they want to be perceived as pro-town. You sir, I believe had never claimed anything yet, this leads me to believe that you were extremely confused throughout this point in the game. Besides, confusion is scummy.muzzz wrote:@BC: I'm thinking we might have a different definition of "Sparticans". Initially, I thought you meant "people who knew about Spartacus". But with your latest post, I'm beginning to think you meant "people who would claim Spartacus".
I definitely agree that scum would claim Spartacus. Even if they didn't know about him at first, which I'm undecided about. But my point re. Ortolan was that he wasn't asking just the people who knew about Spartacus to claim. He was asking everyone to claim Spartacus, even people who might not have known about Spartacus before the first claim. That seemed like an attempt to confuse scum by "invalidating" the claims.
Ok, i read that post several times, and it didn't even look like that was what you were trying to say.muzzz wrote:You don't have a response to the fact that I'm saying the assumptions behind you vote are incorrect?BloodConvenent wrote:and there was no question in 149. Therefore, i have no response.
Unvote, vote Pads
Let's see if he'll claim what I think he will.
But wait, you did push a claim on me, read my post above. Not only did you push my claim, you’re pushing some one else’s rather discretely. Which is, extremely scummy. So, basically, you spent the game wanting to find out who I was, and now some one else. What I also noticed, was that page seven, you were also putting pressure on Fishy. You seem indecisive. Being wishy-washy is scummy, and I believe you are acting so.muzzz wrote:This is utterly ridiculous. I seriously doubt you're even reading my posts.
Yes, it's you and BC that are to blame for the outing of Spartacus.. All I did was force BC to inform the rest of the town. I've said this before, and you're still misrepresenting my point.He was outed long before I pushed him to claim
And that mason part is just a fantasy without any sort of facts to back it up. Didn't I just mention how counter-productive that sort of stuff is?
No.BloodCovenent wrote:You read my most recent explanation about confirmation of my role, does this quote make more sense now?
I explained this already. Please read my posts.BC wrote:Wait? Howso?
Yes, because some idiots were already flaunting their knowledge.BC wrote:–Already talking about claiming three pages into the game.
Vice versa. I'd rather not have claims, but I'll force them if I think somebody's already outed for all practical intents and purposes.BC wrote:Oh, so you want claims, you just don’t want to be the one that forces them?
I already explained why I wanted you to claim. Please read my posts.BC wrote:Wait….? You do want me to claim? Why me? Did we ever bring that into question? And why do you want a claim from me, if you plan on lynching someone else? You could of saved me the trouble of Role Claiming.
I've already explained why I didn't keep to myself. And that I won't trust in a hypothetical doc. Please read my posts.BC wrote:If you truly know, then why don’t you keep to yourself, or defend me if I get bandwagoned? You could of saved town a lot of trouble. And now you’re telling me that I need to get claim before I get Night Killed. Or, why not, if we have a doc, and he noticed the same thing you did, wouldn’t he most likely save me Night 1? You’ve only been around for a few months, unless you’re an alt, how did you pick up on something that is so specifically town play, when I myself considered it to be a generic scum hunting.
Nice Ad Hominem...BC wrote:This jackasseven threatened to lynch me if I didn’t claim.
I have no idea where this is coming from.BC wrote:If you don’t believe my claim, then flat out say it.
Uhmmm... isn't cop a night power?BC wrote:this is the dumbest idea ever. If it were true, my role would have activated by now.
So because I liked the idea after someone mentioned it, I should've actually been the one to come up with it? That makes no sense at all.BC wrote:because you just said that you liked the idea.
I did claim Spartacus. Please read my posts.BC wrote:Ok, as soon as you see my response, you try to say that we have a misunderstanding. The thing is, everyone that knew of Spartacus, regardless of alignment, will claim it, because they want to be perceived as pro-town. You sir, I believe had never claimed anything yet, this leads me to believe that you were extremely confused throughout this point in the game. Besides, confusion is scummy.
What didn't look like like it was trying to say what? This is so vague it hardly qualifies as an opinion.BC wrote:Ok, i read that post several times, and it didn't even look like that was what you were trying to say.
I try hard to make the best out of hopeless situations.BC wrote:And you are really into forcing claims aren't you?
Pushing a claim != outing. And I don't need to find out what Pads is. At first I thought he might be the doc, but after his latest post he's almost certainly scum.BC wrote:But wait, you did push a claim on me, read my post above. Not only did you push my claim, you’re pushing some one else’s rather discretely. Which is, extremely scummy. So, basically, you spent the game wanting to find out who I was, and now some one else. What I also noticed, was that page seven, you were also putting pressure on Fishy. You seem indecisive. Being wishy-washy is scummy, and I believe you are acting so.
You didn't say you'd post, only that you'd re-read and analyse. But what we see here is that you didn't spend a second actually reading my post. All of that time went into making a non-existent case against me.BC wrote:Then your most recent post is you trying to nullify my vote, when just earlier today, I said that I was going to give a post, and you seem like your anxious, and trying to get me off your back. Well, my vote stands. You sir, seem very scummy. I would be surprised if you turned out otherwise.
Yes, the outting of Spartacus I had an unintentional hand in. But we're talking about the outting of the cop, which I had nothing to do with. Once I saw Blood's surprise at my Spartacus claim, IMuzzz wrote:Yes, it's you and BC that are to blame for the outing of Spartacus. He was outed long before I pushed him to claim. All I did was force BC to inform the rest of the town. I've said this before, and you're still misrepresenting my point.
That's obviously not true. BC's claimed PM included a part that clearly stated a group of players had to recognize him. Is it entirely unreasonable to guess that such a group of people can talk to each other in a non-main game thread capacity? Couldn't that be Masons?Muzzz wrote:And that mason part is just a fantasy without any sort of facts to back it up.
Yes, but if my theory is 'baseless', as you describe, despite being based on someone's claim, then we can classify some of your theories as baseless, too....Muzzz wrote: Didn't I just mention how counter-productive that sort of stuff is?
Muzzz wrote:What if, for example, (one of) their role PM's started something like this: "Your job is to find and kill Spartacus and his followers without getting caught."
... since we have no confirmed knowledge of the scum's information, and no proof that Empking's setup will at all conform to the movies, respectively.Muzzz wrote:Did you consider the possibility that Empking is following the script?
My intentions. You said I wanted to learn his role, which is false. I wanted him to say he is indeed Spartacus. I didn't expect, nor really want, the cop-ability claim.Pads wrote:Yes, the outting of Spartacus I had an unintentional hand in. But we're talking about the outting of the cop, which I had nothing to do with. Once I saw Blood's surprise at my Spartacus claim, Ileft him alone. But you didn't. What exactly am I misrepresenting?
Because if I say something, the town might disbelieve me. Scum would have had a much better idea of whether I was right or not. And making him claim is also a precaution against the possibility that he's fakeclaiming scum.Pads wrote:Informing the rest of the town, and thus making sure they have the same understanding of Blood's claim that the scum looking for Spartacus do is fine, but what does that have to do with making him claim? There was no reason for it that I can see.
Yes, it's entirely unreasonable to guess that without any direct evidence. For all we know, that group was just "the townies".Pads wrote:That's obviously not true. BC's claimed PM included a part that clearly stated a group of players had to recognize him. Is it entirely unreasonable to guess that such a group of people can talk to each other in a non-main game thread capacity? Couldn't that be Masons?
You're misrepresenting my points, again. Those things you quoted weren't theories. They were counter-arguments to peoplePads wrote:Yes, but if my theory is 'baseless', as you describe, despite being based on someone's claim, then we can classify some of your theories as baseless, too....
I meant:muzzz wrote:So by "three left" you meant "even if everybody stopped claiming after that point, there would still be at least three players who had claimed Spartacus"?
mmm... no?muzzz wrote:No.BloodCovenent wrote:You read my most recent explanation about confirmation of my role, does this quote make more sense now?
I explained this already. Please read my posts.BC wrote:Wait? Howso?
You say that scum will most likely not want to stand out, yes, but how are people standing out if they just go, "oh yea, i'm spartacus too!." and no one bats an eye.
Yes, because some idiots were already flaunting their knowledge.BC wrote:–Already talking about claiming three pages into the game.
Flaunting knowledge? not really? How do you see us as 'flaunting knowledge.'
Vice versa. I'd rather not have claims, but I'll force them if I think somebody's already outed for all practical intents and purposes.BC wrote:Oh, so you want claims, you just don’t want to be the one that forces them?
But if you know i wasn't a generic townie, but still thought me to be town, then why would you need a claim from me?
I already explained why I wanted you to claim. Please read my posts.BC wrote:Wait….? You do want me to claim? Why me? Did we ever bring that into question? And why do you want a claim from me, if you plan on lynching someone else? You could of saved me the trouble of Role Claiming.
I apologize, but I fail to see this. I just see you saying that i obviously have a different role than you, which.... you kind of knew from the start, didn't you? Theoretically to say at the least.
I've already explained why I didn't keep to myself. And that I won't trust in a hypothetical doc. Please read my posts.BC wrote:If you truly know, then why don’t you keep to yourself, or defend me if I get bandwagoned? You could of saved town a lot of trouble. And now you’re telling me that I need to get claim before I get Night Killed. Or, why not, if we have a doc, and he noticed the same thing you did, wouldn’t he most likely save me Night 1? You’ve only been around for a few months, unless you’re an alt, how did you pick up on something that is so specifically town play, when I myself considered it to be a generic scum hunting.
Also, don't confuse my join date with my experience.
But why not? it's a big enough game. You didn't answer the question.
Nice Ad Hominem...BC wrote:This jackasseven threatened to lynch me if I didn’t claim.
I don't think that's really an Ad Hominem. But still, the fact is true.
I have no idea where this is coming from.BC wrote:If you don’t believe my claim, then flat out say it.
OH! Now i get to say it, read my post.
Uhmmm... isn't cop a night power?BC wrote:this is the dumbest idea ever. If it were true, my role would have activated by now.
Yea, but that doesn't mean that mine is activated yet, and even after Night 1, it still might now be activated. Emp will let me know when it is activated.
So because I liked the idea after someone mentioned it, I should've actually been the one to come up with it? That makes no sense at all.BC wrote:because you just said that you liked the idea.
I get to say it again! read the posts surrounding my quotes and maybe you will understand.
I did claim Spartacus. Please read my posts.BC wrote:Ok, as soon as you see my response, you try to say that we have a misunderstanding. The thing is, everyone that knew of Spartacus, regardless of alignment, will claim it, because they want to be perceived as pro-town. You sir, I believe had never claimed anything yet, this leads me to believe that you were extremely confused throughout this point in the game. Besides, confusion is scummy.
I fail to see it.
What didn't look like like it was trying to say what? This is so vague it hardly qualifies as an opinion.BC wrote:Ok, i read that post several times, and it didn't even look like that was what you were trying to say.
It didn't even look like you were trying to say this, ->"You don't have a response to the fact that I'm saying the assumptions behind you vote are incorrect? " I didn't see that at all.
I try hard to make the best out of hopeless situations.BC wrote:And you are really into forcing claims aren't you?
What hopeless situation?
Pushing a claim != outing. And I don't need to find out what Pads is. At first I thought he might be the doc, but after his latest post he's almost certainly scum.BC wrote:But wait, you did push a claim on me, read my post above. Not only did you push my claim, you’re pushing some one else’s rather discretely. Which is, extremely scummy. So, basically, you spent the game wanting to find out who I was, and now some one else. What I also noticed, was that page seven, you were also putting pressure on Fishy. You seem indecisive. Being wishy-washy is scummy, and I believe you are acting so.
Thats a shame, i completely disagree.
And there's nothig wishy-washy about pressuring and/or suspecting multiple people. After all, we likely have more than one scum. It would, in fact, but very short-sighted to focus completely on a single player.
You didn't say you'd post, only that you'd re-read and analyse. But what we see here is that you didn't spend a second actually reading my post. All of that time went into making a non-existent case against me.BC wrote:Then your most recent post is you trying to nullify my vote, when just earlier today, I said that I was going to give a post, and you seem like your anxious, and trying to get me off your back. Well, my vote stands. You sir, seem very scummy. I would be surprised if you turned out otherwise.
I think you understood the interpretation of my post, but are trying to use this against me.
tl;dr summary
BC didn't even read my posts.
Oh really, you asked me to claim three times, if not four times. And not to mention, didn't my initial question to pads show how honest and sincere I was? I wasn't about to let some one else claim my role. And when you ask for a claim, if you asked anyone else, in this game, or any other game, they would tell their actual role, when faced with a RC. They wouldn't only say, "Oh i'm just Spartacus." Because that's bullshit, If that's all I claimed, then I would have been ridiculed and lynched.muzzz wrote: My intentions. You said I wanted to learn his role, which is false. I wanted him to say he is indeed Spartacus. I didn't expect, nor really want, the cop-ability claim.
Yes, it's entirely unreasonable to guess that without any direct evidence. For all we know, that group was just "the townies".
1. he did not do that.muzzz wrote:EBWOP:
For the record: I have nothing against theories, as long as they're just that. I do, however, have huge problems with people assuming one theory over the other without any evidence.
My point was that scum would go "oh yeah, I'm Spartacus too" so they wouldn't stand out. No one batting an eye at that is pretty much why they'd do it. I don't see how your statement is questioning mine.BloodCovenent wrote:You say that scum will most likely not want to stand out, yes, but how are people standing out if they just go, "oh yea, i'm spartacus too!." and no one bats an eye.
Claiming Spartacus. Counter-claiming Spartacus. Saying people who (counter-)claimed Spartacus are likely town. Etc..BC wrote:Flaunting knowledge? not really? How do you see us as 'flaunting knowledge.'
Because for various reasons, which I've repeated more than once, I found it necessary to have you state your claim for the rest of the town.BC wrote:But if you know i wasn't a generic townie, but still thought me to be town, then why would you need a claim from me?
I didn't know you had a different role than me until you counter-claimed. A claim might still have been avoided at that point. But then people quickly showed that your position was entirely unique. That's the point were you became a scum target even if the scum hadn't known about Spartacus beforehand. And that's when I knew you had to claim.BC wrote:I apologize, but I fail to see this. I just see you saying that i obviously have a different role than you, which.... you kind of knew from the start, didn't you? Theoretically to say at the least.
The chances of a single townie catching something are much smaller than the chances of at least one of the scum to catch it. That's why I didn't keep to myself. If we had a doc, he would've been more likely to miss it than the scum. And bandwagons have nothing to do with NKs.BC wrote:But why not? it's a big enough game. You didn't answer the question.
I really don't see how "jackass" would be directed at my arguments.BC wrote:I don't think that's really an Ad Hominem.
You said "If you don't believe my claim". But I never suggested I don't believe your claim. Your post has nothing to do with that.BC wrote:OH! Now i get to say it, read my post.
Did he say he'd let you know immediately?BC wrote:Yea, but that doesn't mean that mine is activated yet, and even after Night 1, it still might now be activated. Emp will let me know when it is activated.
I did read those posts. You say it was a dumb idea, but that I'm scummy for not having liked it from the start. None of that makes sense.BC wrote:I get to say it again! read the posts surrounding my quotes and maybe you will understand.
FFS, I was the one who said "anyone not claiming Spartacus is absent or an idiot"... And I've made countless arguments, many against you, that claimed or implied some knowledge of Spartacus. Stop fooling around.BC wrote:I fail to see it.
It's most definitely there.BC wrote:It didn't even look like you were trying to say this, -> "You don't have a response to the fact that I'm saying the assumptions behind you vote are incorrect? " I didn't see that at all.
People who out themselves to the scum.BC wrote:What hopeless situation?
I'd like to see you back that up.BC wrote:I think you understood the interpretation of my post, but are trying to use this against me.
Your initial question only showed you sincerely thought Spartacus should be counterclaimed. Being Spartacus is the simplest explanation for that, but not the only one.BloodCovenent wrote:Oh really, you asked me to claim three times, if not four times. And not to mention, didn't my initial question to pads show how honest and sincere I was? I wasn't about to let some one else claim my role. And when you ask for a claim, if you asked anyone else, in this game, or any other game, they would tell their actual role, when faced with a RC. They wouldn't only say, "Oh i'm just Spartacus." Because that's bullshit, If that's all I claimed, then I would have been ridiculed and lynched.
He was assuming masons over other possibilities. And I never disagreed that masons might be possible.BC wrote:1. he did not do that.
2. you seem to be refusing his theory.
Fair enough.muzzz wrote:I disagree. I think it's quite realistic to expect someone to make the connection between two Spartacus claims and the "I am Spartacus" scene.Fishythefish wrote:Consider that I claimed Spartacus third- I think it's not very realistic to think I did it without information.
I'm not sure to what extent this was related to your previous comment. In this case, you were suggesting I was scummier due to a possible lack of information- I provided some evidence that I did have information. In general, though, I am in complete agreement with you. I no longer assume anything about who might have information on Spartacus.muzzz wrote:And I can't stress this enough:. People need to stop assuming silly things and start playing with what we know. Suggesting that the scum wouldn't know something without having facts to back it up is counter-productive. All it does is give people a false sense of trust towards others. And only scum profit from that.we have absolutely no reason whatsoever to assume anything about the scum's knowledge
I’d like some backup for this post please- how is 164 "so scummy"? The only thing you say in support is to reference a post of another player, which was asking for clarification on something. And then you repeat the point by asking for something I have already answered. It feels like you wanted to jump on a wagon which was suddenly looking popular.Infinis wrote:Who do I think is scum...FTF his 164 is so scummy I dont know where to begin. As an opener muzz's 169 first line. That just leaped out of FTF post for me as well. And I too would like an explanation of the 3 claims left line.
You've either missed, or conveniently side-stepped my intended point. My point is that you suspect me claiming that it seemed I didn't know the reason for Pads claiming, yet omit ortolan. His post was earlier than mine, and shows incredulity when mine showed curiosity.Infinis wrote:My thoughts on the above, sadness. It saddened me immensely that anyone who joined Kubrick mafia, did not know the "I am Spartacus!" scene. Hell, even if you didn't know it was Kubrick, wouldn't you know the scene? Spartacus was intentionally being hidden in plain sight.AshMC1984 wrote:Infinis - what are your thoughts on the above post, especially the bold?ortolan wrote:I would never normally have claimed unprompted like that but I might come into suspicion later in the game for not having done so. Happy? It has the potential to out power roles and washonestly pretty dumb of Pads to do in the first place.I don't think discussion of the matter is helpful.
By someone out and out claiming Spartacus it could be a scum gambit to fish out Spartacus, or Spartacus got over anxious and claimed, or someone is willing to sacrifice themselves to continue hiding Spartacus.
Out of those options, the first would presuppose knowing Spartacus was a power role for town, why risk a scum team member for a vanilla townie. The second option I leave to all of us to debate after a reread. And the third option puts a big WIFOM bomb on the scum, is he really Spartacus, do we NK him?
Care to flesh this out? I know it's 'gut', but must come from somewhere.ortolan wrote:Gut-read: Pads and Fish scum-team
Yet you're voting me. How interesting....Infinis wrote:Who do I think is scum...FTF his 164 is so scummy I dont know where to begin. As an opener muzz's 169 first line. That just leaped out of FTF post for me as well. And I too would like an explanation of the 3 claims left line.Spolium wrote:vote: Pads, because I want to see where that goes.
@Infinis- Since you think it'd be stupid of scum not to claim Spartacus after the first few claims, I'd very much like to know which of the claimants you consider most likely to be scum at this point.
@Fishythefish- I'm still having trouble consolidating the idea that you believe(d) Spartacus is likely a pro-town role yet wanted to keep the number of claims minimal, and it's strange that you went on to claim that it was not clear that Sparticans make good scum targets despite the former point.
@Cateraction- What are your thoughts on the Pads wagon?
@BloodCovenent- Were you, upon joining this game, familiar with the movie Spartacus?
Once again I apologise for my absence. More to come, I've been reading this thread for a good chunk of today but will be busy for a few hours.
subtle claim, town. Scum know who scum are and dont need subtle hints to find one another.cateraction wrote:Vote: Blood Covenant
The best lynch the town will ever get. So anti town.
Also, in a, he would lose.gladiator fight
Cop claim, hard to say if he's just going with a joke or signaling back.BloodCovenent wrote:...and you sir, are wrong. i would stab you withcateraction wrote:Vote: Blood Covenant
The best lynch the town will ever get. So anti town.
Also, in a gladiator fight, he would lose.!my sword
Beating a dead horse with the signaling.cateraction wrote:Gladius. It's called a gladius. That's why we're gladiators. My vote stands. Kid's dead weight.
lazarusmoth wrote:OMGUS fail?Archon wrote:DOOOOH!Archon wrote:DOH!Archon wrote:but they didn't have an avatar like that. [/in whiny, three year old voice]lazarusmoth wrote:Vote: archon
People who rub their heads with cats are misguided. Everyone knows dogs clean better.
unvtoe, vote lazar
unvote, vote lazar
What the hell is happening...
oh well. I'll just keep my vote.
Subtle signal he's town or fishing...I think fishing hence my vote earlier.AshMC1984 wrote:Do youBloodCovenent wrote:A little early to be spreading lies don't you think?thinkorknowthis? Why / how?
FtF trying to save the day by redirecting undue attention, but it's too late. Is he protecting a scum buddy or town trying to be in the spirit of the PM he was given?Fishythefish wrote:I recounterclaim. I am, in fact, Spartacus. This is not a joke.BloodCovenent wrote:Unless there is more than one Spartacus, he cannot be him.AshMC1984 wrote:Do youBloodCovenent wrote:A little early to be spreading lies don't you think?thinkorknowthis? Why / how?
Subtle third person claim, hindsight 20/20muzzz wrote:Unvote, vote: BloodCovenant
Spartacus is seriously doubting that BC didn't get Cateraction's earlier gladiator references.
poisoning the wellmuzzz wrote:Oh, and I agree with Ortolan that Spartacus probably isn't for confirmation purposes.