How do you know?Sajin wrote:No you do not,MrBuddyLee wrote:I'm here and I have a good (protown) reason for not claiming my sleeping location. See you guys in the morning.fos MBL
Kairyuu wrote:I'm seeing pretty much nothing promoting Kison as scum (pray tell, what have you noticed that I haven't?), but Benmage is a pretty good choice in my opinion. Albert also is going to have quite a bit to answer for come morning, so he would also be a good choice methinks.
Mastermind of Sin wrote:SpyreX, Faraday, Kison, Benmage, armlx, Slicey, Mufasa, Setael/OGB all voted for Flay (in that order) AFTER I had been forced to reveal that I had information.
-SpyreX was helping test Flay's claim before that, but hadn't commented much one way or the other on Flay's scumminess.
-Faraday had been on the Flay wagon earlier, and made a very good post about the top suspects of the day.
This puts him in a pretty good light, I think.Faraday wrote:Any reason for this?MrBuddyLee wrote:FOS: Faraday, OozingGolfball
Ok well I've read up. I don't see a lot against JVWI mean he's not particularly townie but I can't see him as 99% scum like Albert says.
I think the case on Flay is a better one so I willVote: Mr. Flay
Other things of note:
Mufasa is pretty much useless. His meta supports this, he's claimed doc in an open game when vanilla before, and done numerous..questionable things so I'm not sure how easy it is to get a read on him. His play here is actually less erratic than some of his other games, one of which I'm talking about is ongoing.
Benmage's questions are certaintly odd, I do agree the pace seems to have dropped this game day though, for whatever reason. But doing stuff to "provoke reactions" or something isn't a good idea.
I continue to like MOS, and I think Kairyuu is probably town too due to his claim.
Slicey re: 1409: Is this the tar standard tell? If so he's said that untill one of the people has flipped it's not that useful, unless there's a mutual chainsaw defense going on.
So yeh kinda caught up now and all that, thank God.
-Kison was very ambiguous in regards to Mr. Flay, and made small statements of disbelieving his claim but didn't really act on it, parroting other people's ideas on how to test the role claim. He also finally placed his vote upon digging up a supposed contradiction that was actually rather weak, instead of all the other evidence we had.
-Benmage went one step further, placing his vote based on Kison's bad evidence and then unvoting when it was debunked, completely ignoring the real evidence against Mr. Flay. He also defended Flay at one point against Slicey's case, trying to deflect it by concluding that it wasn't enough to lynch someone. This post also sprang up as cause for concern:
I don't like the defense of Flay, and I am also concerned by his lack of comment on JVW or Mufasa after the first statement, especially since Mufasa is also likely scum.Benmage wrote:You swear Flay to be scum. ABR is 99% sure jvw is scum... others wanna see Mufasa hung, who should we follow?
Honestly looking back at Flay, other than his odd continual tangent about Jester possibility his posts are generally pretty good, comprehensive and aren't simply one-liners, he isn't high on my 'scum-radar' yet. (I'm also not suggesting that good posting/contributing clears you from the possibility of scum, I just think there are much better cases out there than Flay.)
-armlx hasn't said much all game, and he did say Flay's claim was scummy, but he never commented on the case at all, and he simply voted Flay after I had confirmed him scum, adding nothing to the discussion.
-Setael/OGB did not say much at all before placing the hammer and later being replaced, but one post does give him a townie point:
Of these people, Benmage is the most likely scumpartner to Flay, followed by Kison, armlx, SpyreX, Setael, and then Faraday (who is very likely not scum with Flay at all). This analysis would be more conclusive if combined with an analysis of their Fabian/Mufasa interactions. Something similar should also be done for people who stayed off the Flay wagon altogether.OozingGolfBall wrote:Do you have any other Flay defense besides his content? I've only seen him adequately respond to the attack on his jester discussion, and he hasn't addressed almost every other part of slicey's case.Benmage wrote:You swear Flay to be scum. ABR is 99% sure jvw is scum... others wanna see Mufasa hung, who should we follow?
Honestly looking back at Flay, other than his odd continual tangent about Jester possibility his posts are generally pretty good, comprehensive and aren't simply one-liners, he isn't high on my 'scum-radar' yet. (I'm also not suggesting that good posting/contributing clears you from the possibility of scum, I just think there are much better cases out there than Flay.)
Setael wrote:MBL's posts 1667 and 1668 make me highly suspicious that he and mustafa are scum buddies. Can someone also direct me to where in the thread kairyuu is confirmed town by those 2 players? If that's the case, mustafa's in hot water and MBL is pretty clearly trying to save him.
If this is your case, it's unbelievably horrid.Setael wrote:It's pretty clear that the notes are true, which makes me suspicious of MBL who disappeared after trying to discredit them (quoting Flay to back him up. really?) So basically, MBL is right below Mufasa on my scum list.
