The post numbers are references to reading Netlava in isolation; dates are provided to help locate them in the full thread.
post 4 made Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:15 am wrote:While reading through the thread, I felt that everyone was scummy. {snip} Add in the fact that DDD and Amish both seemed town to me.
How did those two appear town while everyone felt scummy?
post 4 made Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:18 am wrote:I'd also like to note that Light-Kun's playing style is different. I didn't necessarily find it scummy, but not pro-town either.
Another one not scummy within the everyone who is scummy. (NOTE: This is the first part of his case that Light-kun is a SK.)
post 5 made Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:15 am wrote:Just to clarify, I DO find some certain persons scummier than Light-Kun, and I suppose lynching these certain unnamed scummier persons may be preferable.
So is he back to being scummy?
post 7 made Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:56 am wrote:First off, I do think Light is more likely SK/scum, but I think it can wait for a day.
Seeing him as a SK, he can wait; but as scum, why? The rest of post 7 is the case against JereIC. I will highlight this piece
I have to agree with na85 that Light-kun’s post was picking a troll. You can argue that na85 is active lurking by just agreeing with other people, but Light-kun’s post was just picking a fight without reason.
Not sure, I think posting this type of stuff without having some sort of conclusion is scummy.
Apparently not aware of your own current content level. This case is summarized in post 8, "To summarize: I find the way he words things scummy." made immediately after the case.
post 9 made Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:27 pm wrote:Okay... well, if you don't agree, that's your opinion.
Not a great response, IMHO. But don't fret, he handles that 3.5 days later.
post 10 made Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:54 am wrote:Sorry for my grumpy post in response to people calling my case weak... that is, if you happened to interpret it that way, in which case that's your problem, not mine."
Starts off with nothing new. And ends with
Anyways, I haven't read all the new posts yet. That will occur, possibly tomorrow.
Perhaps that will be good because so far . . . not so good.
post 11 made Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:30 am wrote:As for what I think of them, it is a mystery...!
(Referring to DraketheFake and Fishythefish) Nothing of substance.
Posts 12 and 13 are more with JereIC. Nothing else.
Post 14 made Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:49 am states "Sorry for not posting. I am really busy. I'll try to post later tonight." Thanks for noting your absence. I'll not hold my breath for the soon-to-come post. Good thing . . .
Post 15 made Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:43 am states believing that Fishythefish and DraketheFake are probably not scum. There is more with JereIC.
Post 17 made Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:39 am, he finally notices that Fishythefish is at L-1 and asks to hold any hammer.
post 18 made Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:02 am wrote:So apparently, looker voted fishy while drunk.
{snip}
Also, tubby hasn't offered a reason for his vote either.
{snip}
Jazzmyn wrote:As I said previously, Fishy is most suspicious to me. He went V/LA for a bit, which is the only reason I didn't vote him sooner (see prior posts) but nothing he has posted since his return has changed my mind.
Fishy did not go V/LA in this game. He posted limited access at one point, but continued posting normally.
Some quick suspicion thrown at these players and another quick snipe at JereIC.
Post 19 made Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:06 pm is more with JereIC and "I hadn't noticed that fishy was L-1 yet."
Post 20 made Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:55 am is another one-shot snipe at JereIC and "So it's unreasonable for me to miss something? I blame the orange font." to explain not noticing that Fishythefish was at L-1."
ASIDE: Why am I so hung up on this L-1 thing? I make sure to always be aware of the vote count. Adding a vote with the intent to pressure someone and accidentally dropping a hammer would be bad play. Always being aware of who is on what wagons is a great hunting tool; not "only after a lynch."
Post 23 made Sat May 02, 2009 11:26 pm is some quick interaction with JereIC, Light-kun, and Fishythefish ending with "Uhh... I mostly skimmed the posts. I'll post again later and be more thorough."
He returns with post 24 made Tue May 05, 2009 3:24 am to one line suspicion cast on Fishythefish.
which is a claim I always find very suspect. It can be used by the mafia to justify any behaviour, and so when it's not obviously true, like here, it is scummy.
Staying off the wagon to remain distanced from a mislynch while appearing to be contributing.
Another absence and post 26 made Sun May 10, 2009 3:29 am addresses some outstanding questions and a refusal to name other suspects.
On to D3.
28 made Sat May 16, 2009 1:16 am wrote:DraketheFake - town
JereIC - scum
Light-kun - SK
Jazzmyn - scum
HowardRoark - not sure, but leaning town atm
tubby216 - scum
Finally some insight into his suspicions. When asked why, we get post 29's, "I'll have to go through the thread and post why, probably sometime later. But replacing into the game, JereIC and Nuwen were my top suspects."
post 30 made Mon May 18, 2009 11:08 pm wrote:Cases are needed... so explain (or manufacture) the best you can.
This is directed at Light-kun for not providing a case after stating that he believed I was mafia. And then to JereIC
post 30 wrote:While we're at it, explain why you think tubby is scum.
Where are your cases?!?!?!?
He claims "penguin" and when challenged adds "Adelie" with the reason of the former sounded cooler. This is followed later by, "And how would I know that there's more than one species of penguin in the game? I wouldn't." When DraketheFake reminds him of his different penguin species claim, the response is "That doesn't mean I can accept it for sure without knowing your alignment." When JereIC asks if the claim is not trusted then why not lean more toward DraketheFake being scum, the response is less than stellar: "I saw your claim. That doesn't mean I can accept it
for sure
without knowing your alignment." This doesn't really aswer the question at hand.
post 39 made Fri May 22, 2009 12:47 am wrote:In defense of Zeenon, when I replaced in, I originally thought he might have faked his outburst.
So you thought his outburst were faked? To what end?
But then I checked who I replaced, and it turns out he's not scum.
You didn't pay attention to whom you were replacing?
post 39 wrote:As for my "passivity," I point out that no one except for fishy was in danger of being lynched yesterday.
This just reads, "I am scum and was skating through yesterday."
post 40 made Sun May 24, 2009 3:18 pm wrote:I'm planning to make a post (if needed that is) on who my other suspects are.
I've asked for it, and the result has been weak sauce. Finally we get it 5 days later.
post 41 made Fri May 29, 2009 1:55 am wrote:Jazzmyn is someone I do suspect but that never-ending re-read that is never going to come (oops I said it) has to come first before I decide on anything.
This coming from the person who has promised posts later and needing re-reads quite a few times himself.
post 41 wrote:My main beef with Jazz was that she found me suspicious for mostly meta reasons. And her comment how she would have voted fish earlier if it weren't for his (non-existent) v/la seemed off.
The meta was based on one past game and was not part of a case against you, but part of a post of general thoughts on everybody. Not a bad point, but much more valuable in a larger case. The V/LA point is a valid one, but is still weak standing alone.
post 42 made Fri May 29, 2009 4:48 pm wrote:I'm not comfortable with multiple wagons during Lylo. It makes it easier for scum to quicklynch at any given moment. We should really decide on who to lynch before voting.
Setting up an out for a mislynch? Trying to avoid intentionally bussing? Actively lurking? Having others play the game for you?
post 44 made Fri May 29, 2009 11:55 pm wrote:I do think that DtF is the most likely to be town from the players remaining
Why?
I do find Jazz suspicious so the Jazz wagon is the wagon that I would be the most likely to support atm. Then again, I'm still not sure.
Stop riding the fence! Jazzmyn has become a highly probably lynch candidate and you haven't even given a good reason that you support that lynch!
post 46 made Sat May 30, 2009 4:45 pm wrote:On the other hand, I'm not as sure about your alignment
This is addressed at me and is about the third time that you have made a statement such as this. This looks like attempting to gently buddy up to me so that I remove pressure from you.
I guess I will actually follow through and re-read Nuwen. My main problem with Nuwen that I recall when replacing in the game was that I didn't like the way she attacked Zeenon. But I'm a little fuzzy on what exactly I didn't like.
I'd like to see something from this. (Heck, I'd like to see a good case from you on any of your suspects.)
To anyone who doesn't like my wall-o-text, I apologize because I don't care for them as well, but I wanted to be complete because this is where I believe the noose should be tied.
