Newbie 792--Mafia Island ~ Mafia win!

[Thesp]

Sorry to be boring, but can I ask you the same question Thesp? As our IC, you must have played quite a few games. What’s your preference?

I unequivocally prefer town roles. I like trying to figure out who the badguys are - the thrill of hitting scum (when town) is vastly superior (to me) than the thrill of leading the town astray on a mislynch. (Though, in all fairness, a superbly correct nightkill is exquisite. )

To answer your question, I didn't exist yet because I had not yet begun to think.

Your turn.

Where did you get the questions from, and how did you determine which question to ask which player?

I like your answer!

I made up my questions, and arbitrarily chose players. I may come up with a standardized list of questions for players and arbitrarily assign those questions to players, but I fear then answers may become standardized, which would be unhelpful for detecting idiosyncracies, etc., it's sort of a vicious cycle.

Thesp...I don't love the random voting stage. It is the norm here but, far from my favourite part of the game.
Speaking of which...

Vote: Wickedestjr

...because it took me a bit to try and pronounce your name!

I'm curious - if you acknowledge it as the norm, don't like it, and see a viable alternative presented before you, why then accept the norm?

To answer Thesp's question, no, I'm not scum.

Does this disappoint you?

Boxman, who's your scumbuddy?

If I remember correctly, it's this "Thesp" fellow.

I think you mis-read your PM. Double-check and get back with us.

[Papa Zito]

I made up my questions, and arbitrarily chose players. I may come up with a standardized list of questions for players and arbitrarily assign those questions to players, but I fear then answers may become standardized, which would be unhelpful for detecting idiosyncracies, etc., it's sort of a vicious cycle.

The answers would probably only become standardized if you used the question set on the same group of people. Most players are too lazy to check history to see if you'd used the questions before and how they were answered before.

Come to think of it, someone copying a previous answer would be kinda suspicious to me. Maybe it would be valuable to use a standard set after all?

[Thesp]

I made up my questions, and arbitrarily chose players. I may come up with a standardized list of questions for players and arbitrarily assign those questions to players, but I fear then answers may become standardized, which would be unhelpful for detecting idiosyncracies, etc., it's sort of a vicious cycle.

The answers would probably only become standardized if you used the question set on the same group of people. Most players are too lazy to check history to see if you'd used the questions before and how they were answered before.

Come to think of it, someone copying a previous answer would be kinda suspicious to me. Maybe it would be valuable to use a standard set after all?

Perhaps.

What part of Texas are you from? (I grew up in Houston, and spent three excellent years in Dallas.)

[Wickedestjr]

Unless there is some wierd twist in this game, I am not scum.

Random Vote: Indigo Heron

tracker are you scum?

[Papa Zito]

What part of Texas are you from? (I grew up in Houston, and spent three excellent years in Dallas.)

Houston as well. Dallas is evil.

unvote

since there's no sense keeping this vote here. I'm starting to think we'll need a random bandwagon to get anywhere.

[MiteyMouse]

Thesp...I don't love the random voting stage. It is the norm here but, far from my favourite part of the game.
Speaking of which...

Vote: Wickedestjr

...because it took me a bit to try and pronounce your name!

I'm curious - if you acknowledge it as the norm, don't like it, and see a viable alternative presented before you, why then accept the norm?

This is because the only time (here) I've tried not randomly voting, I got jumped all over! I did not really want a repeat of that.

[Wickedestjr]

Vote: Papa Zito

I don't think we should have a random bandwagon going on this early in the game.
If you give me a good reason to unvote then I will, but I don't have any better reasons to vote for anyone.

[Papa Zito]

Vote: Papa Zito

I don't think we should have a random bandwagon going on this early in the game.
If you give me a good reason to unvote then I will, but I don't have any better reasons to vote for anyone.

Random bandwagons are good for adding pressure. Adding pressure is good to ferret out info.

You can leave your vote on me if you want. A good reason to unvote me though would be to help the bandwagon along.

vote: Tracker

Post plz.

[Darkstrike_11]

vote WickedestJr

because of the earlier thing I mentioned about the late confirmation possibly being due to scum talking tactics. Convince me otherwise!

[Wickedestjr]

Sorry I misunderstood your post.

Unvote: Papa Zito

tracker please don't forget to answer my question above.

[AGar]

Interesting. Random voting... sooo strange.

I'm used to playing with clues to find out who mafia (scum) are. So much for my clue analysis.

[Papa Zito]

Interesting. Random voting... sooo strange.

I'm used to playing with clues to find out who mafia (scum) are. So much for my clue analysis.

Random voting at the start of the game (often called the "Random Voting Stage" or RVS for short) is the standard method to generate those clues (typically called "tells" around here) when there's nothing else to go on. The theory is to randomly vote people to generate reactions and then analyze those reactions to see if anything sticks out. The overall purpose is to get discussion going.

That said, you don't have to place a random vote if you don't want to.

[AGar]

Interesting. Random voting... sooo strange.

I'm used to playing with clues to find out who mafia (scum) are. So much for my clue analysis.

Random voting at the start of the game (often called the "Random Voting Stage" or RVS for short) is the standard method to generate those clues (typically called "tells" around here) when there's nothing else to go on. The theory is to randomly vote people to generate reactions and then analyze those reactions to see if anything sticks out. The overall purpose is to get discussion going.

That said, you don't have to place a random vote if you don't want to.

No I mean actual

clues

pointing towards mafia. The game starts off with a couple people (depending on Mafia KP) dying, who were not players but drawn in to relate to the game. Every time mafia makes a hit, a clue is left behind in a "day post" pointing to one mafia responsible for the kill. Totally different game mechanics.

That said, I will be abstaining from the random voting, not enough evidence yet.

[Papa Zito]

Ah, no, nothing like that in the Newbie game format.

[Indigo Heron]

I'm on V/LA for 30 hours. I'm headed for the hills on vacation.

[tracker]

no sorry not scum this game

tracker, how much have you played mafia in real life? What's one of your real life tells?

never played mafia in real life before,

i don't have any "tells", this is my third game ever,

the first one i was mafia and bsed my way through, the second i was a townie replacing in and was lynched D1, my predesscor didn't have much going for him and i still don't know how to play as town.

and i'd like to ask you the same question, while pondering why you would ask me what i find to be a "tell"

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No I mean actual clues pointing towards mafia. The game starts off with a couple people (depending on Mafia KP) dying, who were not players but drawn in to relate to the game. Every time mafia makes a hit, a clue is left behind in a "day post" pointing to one mafia responsible for the kill. Totally different game mechanics.

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That said, I will be abstaining from the random voting, not enough evidence yet.

1) confusing please clarify

2)why would you need evidence to random vote?

i find this random questioning thing interesting and i think i'll give it a shot

agar wouldn't vampires be classified as scum?

boxman, will you forgive me for that last game?

Indigo, same as box?

Papa, what's your avatar from?

Mitey mouse, do you work at chuckey cheese's?

Darkstrike, are you playing connect the dots, without dots?

Wickedestjr, i'm abrevaiting your name from now on, it's to long, what do you have any preferences?

mod, i'm vacationing to seattle leaving this sunday, June 6th coming back the 13th or 14th, i'm going to have limited internet access, i'd prefer it if you could replace me, until you do or if you can't find a replacement, i can try and get on but i'm not sure how much luck i'm going to have with that

[MiteyMouse]

Mitey mouse, do you work at chuckey cheese's?

No...I'm not sure if I should take that as a compliment or an insult...hehhee

Also tracker...when you are posting something to the mod, it is pretty standard to bold it so that you can be sure that they saw it.

[Khelvaster]

And the first votecount:
tracker(2): Indigo Heron, Papa Zito; Wickedestjr(2): Darkstrike, Mitey Mouse

[Papa Zito]

Papa, what's your avatar from?

That would be Morpheus from Neil Gaiman's Sandman series.

Enjoy Seattle. I understand it's fantastic this time of year.

[Boxman]

I totally forgive you, tracker. It was my fault we lost anyway.

[AGar]

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No I mean actual clues pointing towards mafia. The game starts off with a couple people (depending on Mafia KP) dying, who were not players but drawn in to relate to the game. Every time mafia makes a hit, a clue is left behind in a "day post" pointing to one mafia responsible for the kill. Totally different game mechanics.

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That said, I will be abstaining from the random voting, not enough evidence yet.

1) confusing please clarify

2)why would you need evidence to random vote?

1) Last Mafia Game I played in. That's the game mechanic I'm used to.

2) Because I don't want to "random" vote, I want to make an informed decision to off someone who is showing Mafia-esque behavior. I don't want to start or join on a bad town bandwagon if I don't have to.

agar wouldn't vampires be classified as scum?

Yes. No. Maybe.

Yeah, they would.

[Papa Zito]

So,

unvote

since tracker is leaving.

y halo thar Boxman.

Boxman, who's your scumbuddy?

If I remember correctly, it's this "Thesp" fellow.

So you've basically claimed scum here. Any reason we shouldn't string you up now?

[MiteyMouse]

So,

unvote

since tracker is leaving.

y halo thar Boxman.

Boxman, who's your scumbuddy?

If I remember correctly, it's this "Thesp" fellow.

So you've basically claimed scum here. Any reason we shouldn't string you up now?

That "y halo thar" always makes me giggle Papa!

As to the meat of this post, I took that as a joke. This would be a very short game if the Scum came out so easily.

[Thesp]

Unless there is some wierd twist in this game, I am not scum.

Random Vote: Indigo Heron

tracker are you scum?

Why the random vote?

I'm starting to think we'll need a random bandwagon to get anywhere.

Why does it have to be random? (From some responses, I've already garnered at least one person whom I think is more likely to be town than scum. I suspect with a couple more questions, I'll get some more negative readings.) On that note...

Random bandwagons are good for adding pressure. Adding pressure is good to ferret out info.

How useful do you think a random bandwagon is?

No I mean actual clues pointing towards mafia. The game starts off with a couple people (depending on Mafia KP) dying, who were not players but drawn in to relate to the game. Every time mafia makes a hit, a clue is left behind in a "day post" pointing to one mafia responsible for the kill. Totally different game mechanics.

That said, I will be abstaining from the random voting, not enough evidence yet.

How do you propose we'll get "evidence"?

and i'd like to ask you the same question, while pondering why you would ask me what i find to be a "tell"

I've probably played somewhere shy of 50 face-to-face games. I know when I'm scum in those, I have to resist giggling more. If you get the chance to play in real life, it can be really awesome (with the correct crowd).

[Papa Zito]

As to the meat of this post, I took that as a joke. This would be a very short game if the Scum came out so easily.

Oh dear. Mitey, why are you answering for Boxman?