AshMC1984 wrote:Pads - I'm curious, why the unprompted claim in the first place?
Partially because I found the random voting phase discussion to be uninspiring, and I believed the claim would spark some helpful discussion, which it did.
Also, once looking up the lore of the movie, I had assumed that my PM included the information it did for the purposes of misleading whoever was looking for Spartacus and keeping Spartacus hidden.
The later in the game that I claimed Spartacus, the less chance that it would fool whoever was hunting him. Without the ability to contact the real Spartacus and inform him that he should probably stay hidden I could only hope that he was familiar with the film and knew to stay hidden.
With that in mind, I put myself into harm's way, hoping to keep whoever was looking for Spartacus misled. Unfortunatley, the real Spartacus made himself known pretty quickly in response, and given the information that he says he has in his PM about needing to be 'recognized' to be activated, I guess I can't really blame him for doing so.
ortolan wrote:for cateraction you've at least given a reason (albeit a weak one), but you have failed to explain what you found unnatural about ortolan's reaction.
The post in which Ortolan claimed Spartacus included several lines before the actual claim. Those lines explained what was coming and built up to the eventual claim of Spartacus, like a movie building up to a climax for maximum effect. That's showmanship. And it struck me as insincere.
unvote: Lazarus
I'm putting Laz on the back burner for the moment.
Muzzz wrote:It's extremely likely that what you're asking is, in practice, the same as asking "If you got a different role PM than most of us, please let us know." What on earth could that possibly do for us, except potentially force a powerrole to claim?
Muzzz wrote:I'm afraid we might have to force some claims today. We should probably try our best to avoid that.
These quotes sound dandy. But he changes his tune pretty quickly.
Muzzz wrote:We should probably lynch Lazarus today. But before that, I'd like to bandwagon BC into a claim.
Uh, what?
We had some folks who seemed completely unaware of Spartacus when the claims started, but Muzzz seems to have been on the opposite end of that; he seems to be very in tune with the situation. He clearly picked up on BC's posts indicating that BC was likely the real Spartacus. There's nothing wrong with that - I noticed it, too. But, he then proceeded to drag BC out into the open and tried to rustle up support for a bandwagon and a claim from BC.
Even with what little information I was given in my PM, I was able to deduce that Spartacus should be hidden. Does Muzzz seem like he wants Spartacus to be hidden? Or does it look like he's a part of the group that's looking for Spartacus?
I'd say he's a part of the group looking for Spartacus. And I also say that group is likely to be the scum.
Muzzz wrote:After his most recent post, I am absolutely, positively, one-hundred-percent certain that BC is not a generic townie. If I figured it out than it's extremely likely that the scum did as well. So BC needs to claim before he gets NK'ed.
I'm not sure if 'before he gets NK'ed' means 'prior to his death' or 'so as to prevent his death', but either way forcing the claim only given the scum more information with how to deal with him. For instance, if the scum know he's the doc, they can fire away. If they know he's not the doc, they need to take other actions, depending on what roles they have.
If Muzzz truly wanted to protect Spartacus, he would have asked for the doc protection for BC and left the subject alone.
This further reduces the possibility, in my book, that Muzzz is part of some benevolent group that's looking for Spartacus. It reeks of the scum group trying to figure out how to optimize their night plan now that Spartacus is found.
vote: Muzzz
