Nope, not at all. Not even a little bit. Nor were my reasons at all "random", FYA.Khamisa wrote:OK, for one, let's consider the reasons for votes on the fallen angel lynch.
Yosarian2 - Random Vote.
There were six people on that lynch who are still alive. There are five townies left. If we take the assumption that you are one of them, which I assume you are claiming to be, that means only four left to have possibly been on that lynch, which would mean there would have to be at least two scum. So this isn't really a particularly bold statement, is it?Khamisa wrote:I'm going to say that at least two of the people on this lynch are scum.
Are you expecting the odds to get better later in the day?Korejora wrote:I'm reluctant to make a decision this early in the day with us at half to half odds with the scum.
My inital vote was based on the "not scum" thing and the Mastin vote; both of which seemed odd to me. Of course, at that point, it was just a "somewhat better then random" vote.Korejora wrote:
Yos, to be clear, was your reason for voting FA just the reaction to the NOT SCUM fun and for voting CJ?
I approve of this above product and/or service.OhGodMyLife wrote:Khamisa:
1) Do you have any conclusions on who exactly could be scum based on that riveting analysis, or are you just going to sit on your hands and wait for someone else to figure it out?
2)Why do you insist on taking another potshot at the already dead and confirmed town guy?Khamisa wrote:CJMiller - For being last to confirm and yelling NOT SCUM. Note that this was the same person who claimed seer under no pressure.
I approve of the above product and/or service.iamausername wrote:There were six people on that lynch who are still alive. There are five townies left. If we take the assumption that you are one of them, which I assume you are claiming to be, that means only four left to have possibly been on that lynch, which would mean there would have to be at least two scum. So this isn't really a particularly bold statement, is it?Khamisa wrote:I'm going to say that at least two of the people on this lynch are scum.
And, again, if you thought the case on fallen angel was so bad, why didn't you say anything about it yesterday, when it might have actually made a difference?
Are you expecting the odds to get better later in the day?Korejora wrote:I'm reluctant to make a decision this early in the day with us at half to half odds with the scum.
I'm inclined to believe Yos' above reason for his vote. I had similar thoughts which is probably what painted the post I quoted and attacked yesterday to be so scummy. In isolation, it is still scummy, but I guess the build up did cause me to have little mercy in my voting post.Yosarian2 wrote:My inital vote was based on the "not scum" thing and the Mastin vote; both of which seemed odd to me. Of course, at that point, it was just a "somewhat better then random" vote.Korejora wrote:
Yos, to be clear, was your reason for voting FA just the reaction to the NOT SCUM fun and for voting CJ?
I also had kind of a bad feeling about the tone of FA's posts in general. When FA was trying to push for an OMGUS lynch of CJ, in a situation where it was pretty obvious that CJ was in fact the most important pro-town power role in the game, that made my vote a lot more serious. Granted FA was town, but that was still an incredibly anti-town thing for him to suggest there.
What exactly is suspicious about him?Tarballs Post 167 wrote:OGML seemed the most suspicious to me when I first voted him, was the most suspicious until the hammer, and remained the most suspicious when FA flipped. And thus far nothing has happened today that would change my mind about that.
Again I ask, if you really felt this way, why didn't you bring this upKhamisa Post 173 wrote:OK, for one, let's consider the reasons for votes on the fallen angel lynch.
Yosarian2 - Random Vote. Later explained by random reasons.
Mastin - Rolefishing?
Iamusername - not quite sure, looks a little random
Sotty7 - based on meta. Note that FA is fairly new has only completed two games.
OGML - No explanation in vote post. probably agreeing with earlier suspicions.
CJMiller - For being last to confirm and yelling NOT SCUM. Note that this was the same person who claimed seer under no pressure.
Caboose - Based on her "plan", which actually has good reasoning, but note that it was the hammer.
This case was weak, and with no deadline pressure (I think), we chose this simple lynch? I'm going to say that at least two of the people on this lynch are scum.
This brings up an interesting point on Khamisa. I am going to go ahead and suggest that this is definitely negative points on Khamisa.Sotty7 wrote:What exactly is suspicious about him?Tarballs Post 167 wrote:OGML seemed the most suspicious to me when I first voted him, was the most suspicious until the hammer, and remained the most suspicious when FA flipped. And thus far nothing has happened today that would change my mind about that.
Again I ask, if you really felt this way, why didn't you bring this upKhamisa Post 173 wrote:OK, for one, let's consider the reasons for votes on the fallen angel lynch.
Yosarian2 - Random Vote. Later explained by random reasons.
Mastin - Rolefishing?
Iamusername - not quite sure, looks a little random
Sotty7 - based on meta. Note that FA is fairly new has only completed two games.
OGML - No explanation in vote post. probably agreeing with earlier suspicions.
CJMiller - For being last to confirm and yelling NOT SCUM. Note that this was the same person who claimed seer under no pressure.
Caboose - Based on her "plan", which actually has good reasoning, but note that it was the hammer.
This case was weak, and with no deadline pressure (I think), we chose this simple lynch? I'm going to say that at least two of the people on this lynch are scum.yesterday? You came in and unvoted as FA was being wagoned and instead of even talking about him you throw some dirt on CJ. Looking back you didn't even mention FA at all yesterday almost like you were content to let us all lynch him without having to commit either way.
I also want to know who you think is scum Khamisa.
OGML wrote:1) Do you have any conclusions on who exactly could be scum based on that riveting analysis, or are you just going to sit on your hands and wait for someone else to figure it out?
I'm just saying that he was someone who clearly wasn't using reasoning, yet he was on a wagon that lead to a lynch.OGML wrote:Why do you insist on taking another potshot at the already dead and confirmed town guy?
No. My mind tends to think in terms of not-open games, but your reasoning now clarifies that I wasn't erally saying anything at all.iaau wrote:There were six people on that lynch who are still alive. There are five townies left. If we take the assumption that you are one of them, which I assume you are claiming to be, that means only four left to have possibly been on that lynch, which would mean there would have to be at least two scum. So this isn't really a particularly bold statement, is it?
Considering the first reasoned vote for FA occured on the 25th, and her lynch was on the 28th, I didn't have much time. Plus, due to the lack of reasoning, I figured FA's wagon was some sort of residue left from the random-voting stage, so I just left it alone.iaau wrote:And, again, if you thought the case on fallen angel was so bad, why didn't you say anything about it yesterday, when it might have actually made a difference?
I think I confused you with Caboose. Your avatars look alike. Even so, how is this a slip of any kind?Wulfy wrote:Hm.. looking at this, Caboose didn't hammer, I did. Is that a slip Khamisa?
OK, let me reword; the odds are NOT going to get any better later in the day, so kindly refrain from using such fatalistic nonsense as an excuse to avoid doing anything useful. Is that better?Korejora wrote:That's an annoying and unproductive question.
If you had the time to make this post and this post, you had time to comment on the fallen angel wagon, you just chose not to.Khamisa wrote:Considering the first reasoned vote for FA occured on the 25th, and her lynch was on the 28th, I didn't have much time.
So a player gets put to L-1 forKhamisa wrote:Plus, due to the lack of reasoning, I figured FA's wagon was some sort of residue left from the random-voting stage, so I just left it alone.
Khamisa wrote:I expected more from this player list, but I guess I set my hopes too high.
Why did you side step the question?Khamisa wrote:Post 183
You are right in that respect, but I suppose that agreeing with people until having a reason to vote is scummy. I still don't like Kham who continues to talk of Caboose's hammer (side note:OhGodMyLife wrote:Yos, don't exaggerate - I thought you were town that one time. Of course, that was the one time you ended up being scum
Anyway, Kore is mostly on the list for defending Kham by way of attacking Wulfy, which is the classic and very useful Chainsaw Defense. I would not be willing to lynch Kore before Kham is dead and confirmed as some flavor of scum.
