Mafia 95 - Quick & Dirty - Game Over!

[BloodCovenent]

inHimshallibe is mafia too.

ok... evidence?

[xRECKONERx]

EBWOP: Oh, there's a fifth page...

Kise's real claim is a bit odd to me. Even numbered nights? Okay, maybe... but this could also be a clever claim attempt by him to at least keep himself alive till D3, WHILE ALSO drawing Doc protection (assuming there is a Doc) for N1 & N2 due to his claim. He claimed I have a plain role... his original vote was that someone's role was better than his... etc. etc... and now suddenly he has an even-numbered investigative role?

Nah. Keeping my vote. Not convinced, nor do I think we're going to get another lynch going by 10pm.

[BloodCovenent]

EBWOP: Oh, there's a fifth page...

Kise's real claim is a bit odd to me. Even numbered nights? Okay, maybe... but this could also be a clever claim attempt by him to at least keep himself alive till D3, WHILE ALSO drawing Doc protection (assuming there is a Doc) for N1 & N2 due to his claim. He claimed I have a plain role... his original vote was that someone's role was better than his... etc. etc... and now suddenly he has an even-numbered investigative role?

Nah. Keeping my vote. Not convinced, nor do I think we're going to get another lynch going by 10pm.

yea... there isn't much plain about that type of cop role. It seems unusual to me.

[Papa Zito]

EBWOP: Oh, there's a fifth page...

Kise's real claim is a bit odd to me. Even numbered nights? Okay, maybe... but this could also be a clever claim attempt by him to at least keep himself alive till D3, WHILE ALSO drawing Doc protection (assuming there is a Doc) for N1 & N2 due to his claim. He claimed I have a plain role... his original vote was that someone's role was better than his... etc. etc... and now suddenly he has an even-numbered investigative role?

Nah. Keeping my vote. Not convinced, nor do I think we're going to get another lynch going by 10pm.

yea... there isn't much plain about that type of cop role. It seems unusual to me.

Lynch all liars? I'm also not seeing how it can't be a scum role.

[BloodCovenent]

EBWOP:

The role seems unusual to me.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

If you think you've got a case with me, just say it. If you've got a hard-on for a mislynch so bad, then if I get lynched and flip town, why don't you volunteer to be lynched next for advocating a mistake that you had so much belief in? If you're so confident that you know who's scum, then I must tell you that you're a terrible scumhunter.

Trying to set up tomorrow's lynch if you die today is not a townie thing to do.

[Papa Zito]

Nah. Keeping my vote. Not convinced, nor do I think we're going to get another lynch going by 10pm.

P.S. Deadline is next Monday, June 8th.

[Xylthixlm]

Not convinced, nor do I think we're going to get another lynch going by 10pm.

We have a whole week left.

[cateraction]

Anyone else not like BC looking for a claim so quickly? I feel like he was rushing the lynch. We do have a week still.

[Xylthixlm]

If you think you've got a case with me, just say it. If you've got a hard-on for a mislynch so bad, then if I get lynched and flip town, why don't you volunteer to be lynched next for advocating a mistake that you had so much belief in? If you're so confident that you know who's scum, then I must tell you that you're a terrible scumhunter.

Trying to set up tomorrow's lynch if you die today is not a townie thing to do.

Disagree, I've seen townies do that as well as scum. It's stupid because they're usually wrong, but it's not a good scumtell.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

If he wasn't at L-2, I'd probably be voting for Kise right about now - as it is, I think we need to slow down the wagon a little and analyse his behaviour and interactions.

[BloodCovenent]

Lynch all liars? I'm also not seeing how it can't be a scum role.

I forgot to mention that it seems inconsistant.

[Xylthixlm]

Anyone else not like BC looking for a claim so quickly? I feel like he was rushing the lynch. We do have a week still.

Scum love soft claims, but they hate being forced into a full claim. Forcing the full claim after a soft claim is almost always the right move.

[xRECKONERx]

Hmm.

Another week changes things.
Honestly, I really don't like how the claim was pushed so hard, but I also don't like that Kise soft claimed when he didn't need to, then tried to push the blame for that onto Lamont. It's scummy enough for me to keep my vote there. Kise may very well be a townie role, but he's playing like scum.

[BloodCovenent]

Anyone else not like BC looking for a claim so quickly? I feel like he was rushing the lynch. We do have a week still.

Granted. But he was at L-2. Scum could have voted and hammered and he'd be gone. But since we got the claim, people that believe it can unvote. It still seems fishy to me though.

[Xylthixlm]

Kise may very well be a townie role, but he's playing like scum.

Last time I saw a claimed cop playing this scummy I thought "If he comes up town I'm going to write an essay on why you shouldn't play cop as a scum role." But I didn't write the essay, because he came up scum.

[Kise]

If you guys want to justify an intentional mislynch, be my guest. That's the only reason you don't want to unvote.

Why would you risk lynching a powerful ally to town, over your own stubborn gut-feeling that I'm scum? Sorry to be one to tell you, but there's no such thing as fool-proof scumhunting. Nobody is perfect when it comes to finding out scum.

So how's this going to work; I'm staying in the hot seat for the rest of D1? Ok... That'll work highly in favor of anti-town since this whole fiasco is a good enough distraction to keep suspicion off everyone else.

[Kise]

Kise may very well be a townie role, but he's playing like scum.

Last time I saw a claimed cop playing this scummy I thought "If he comes up town I'm going to write an essay on why you shouldn't play cop as a scum role." But I didn't write the essay, because he came up scum.

Right.. so you want it to seem like this is the same scenario, I take it.

[Papa Zito]

If you guys want to justify an intentional mislynch, be my guest. That's the only reason you don't want to unvote.

Why would you risk lynching a powerful ally to town, over your own stubborn gut-feeling that I'm scum? Sorry to be one to tell you, but there's no such thing as fool-proof scumhunting. Nobody is perfect when it comes to finding out scum.

So how's this going to work; I'm staying in the hot seat for the rest of D1? Ok... That'll work highly in favor of anti-town since this whole fiasco is a good enough distraction to keep suspicion off everyone else.

I don't want to unvote you because you're scummy as hell and you've claimed something that will take us days to verify. I'm sure this isn't coincidence.

However, I can't deny the logic of your last point. Don't think this means you're off the hook, though.

unvote: Kise
vote: consonantM

Post. I know you want to.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

If you guys want to justify an intentional mislynch, be my guest. That's the only reason you don't want to unvote.

Why would you risk lynching a powerful ally to town, over your own stubborn gut-feeling that I'm scum? Sorry to be one to tell you, but there's no such thing as fool-proof scumhunting. Nobody is perfect when it comes to finding out scum.

So how's this going to work; I'm staying in the hot seat for the rest of D1? Ok... That'll work highly in favor of anti-town since this whole fiasco is a good enough distraction to keep suspicion off everyone else.

The "Playing to Emotion" scum tell? Check!

[Kise]

Is there anything that isn't scumtell?

[Xylthixlm]

Is there anything that isn't scumtell?

Try scumhunting.

[xRECKONERx]

Unvote, Vote: Xylth

And why? Here's why!!!!!! /BillyMays

1.

Expressing confusion is scummy.

No.

2.

Something does seem off there

vote: Lamont_Cranston

Votes Lamont based on Kise's "he's acting like a crackhead" argument.

3.

Townies are normally confused at the start of the game, scum are more surprised when they're confused. Good enough tell for a first vote

What? He states that expressing confusion is scummy, then says that townies normally ARE confused? What? What what what what what?

4.

I wanted to kill Lamont

unvote, vote: Kise

My, what a bandwagon. Oh, and the whole reason he wanted to KILL Lamont is because of Kise's "he's acting like a crackhead" post.


Now, let me be clear: I kind of see the logic in what Kise is saying. He claimed a power role, and maybe we should give him the chance to actually prove it instead of auto-lynching just because of some... scummy play. Here, look, it's Xylth: scummy play, and no power role! >.>

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote Count:

8 to lynch

Kise: 4 (inHimshallibe, Xylthixlm, Lamont_Cranston, BloodCovenent)
Xylthixlm: 3 (DizzyIzzyB13, sam.samhorn, xRECKONERx)
Lamont_Cranston: 1 (Kise)
inHimshallibe: 1 (ConsonantM)
xRECKONERx: 1 (lazarusmoth)
BloodCovenent: 1 (cateraction)
ConsonantM: 1 (Papa Zito)

Not Voting: 2 (Phoebus, Lowell)

Current Deadline:

Monday June 8th, 10 PM Eastern

[Xylthixlm]

xRECKONERx: Do you believe Kise's claim?