Mafia 93 - A Roccisi Summer - Over!

[Korts]

Did you even look at my View Askew games, which are way more involved than any of the games I am currently playing here?

Not extensively, yet. I've skimmed a couple pages of Wicked, and it seemed mostly a discussion of the theme. I will be taking a proper look later.

[Starbuck]

Did you even look at my View Askew games, which are way more involved than any of the games I am currently playing here?

Not extensively, yet. I've skimmed a couple pages of Wicked, and it seemed mostly a discussion of the theme. I will be taking a proper look later.

The game is still going on but I was Thanos, an independent neutral, in our all powers Avengers game.

[TDC]

Vote Count

alvinz95 (9): HowardRoark, roflcopter, SpyreX, darkdude, Axelrod, Mufasa, tubby216, Starbuck, ekiM

Starbuck (2): Seraphim, skitzer
Seraphim (2): Korts, X
Caboose (2): alvinz95, populartajo
Axelrod (1): charter

Not Voting (3): iamausername, Mixologist, Caboose

10 to lynch.

[Axelrod]

I would really prefer that we didn't lynch Alvinz without even hearing a claim (even if

some

people seem to think that's scummy). Caboose may have had "role based" info on Alvinz on Day 1, but he didn't vote for Alvinz initially, and today, he hasn't voted for either of the people he's supposed to have info. on. So, I still have questions.

[Starbuck]

I think Caboose was just posting the information he received and wanting to see what we all had to say about it.

[Caboose]

I would really prefer that we didn't lynch Alvinz without even hearing a claim (even if

some

people seem to think that's scummy). Caboose may have had "role based" info on Alvinz on Day 1, but he didn't vote for Alvinz initially, and today, he hasn't voted for either of the people he's supposed to have info. on. So, I still have questions.

I was seeing which wagon would build first: skitzer or alvinz.

Can I drop the hammer now, or does anyone insist on an alvinz claim?

[ekiM]

I think I would prefer that Alvinz claim and relay any results or whatever that he may claim to have before the hammer is dropped. I think it's unlikely he's town at this point, and he probably is today's lynch no matter what he claims, but I don't think there's a strong reason not to wait just in case Caboose is lying/wrong and Alvinz is town and has something useful he can tell us before he goes.

[X]

I'm strong in my convictions because I'm right.

I always lynch scum... sometimes they're just not mafia.

Can I drop the hammer now, or does anyone insist on an alvinz claim?

I insist.

[Seraphim]

I look forward to tonight. I'll answer the accusations against me tomorrow or later today. I just want to say that Caboose is most likely telling the truth.

[HowardRoark]

Howard - Has contributed zilch so far this game. Went after alvinz for lack of content.

I see your attempted point here. However . . . I was V/LA traveling for my brother's wedding for about a week; alvinz95 has just failed to participate.

There is a strong Howard/alvinz connection. alvinz' 414 post, other than being OMGUS, seems to damn Howard more than Caboose, but he votes Caboose and not Howard. Distancing probable.

In an alvinz-scum scenario people will have been bussing right after Caboose has claimed his results. Wagon analysis may not be much use, but I don't like Axel's (and Starbuck's, but he's a newb) distrust of Caboose--an unprovoked fakeclaim this early would be very stupid.

For reference:

Ha, I found the pot of gold. Despite my claim that Caboose was town because I thought he was joking, Caboose is still lingering on lynching me with little basis except that I'm not posting which is what I do in all my games... But now I see HowardRoark following Caboose's vote. It seems this is all under the plan to pick on the non-contributor which is what I do in all games and everyone knows. Caboose most likely did this to deflect attention off OozingGolfBall. Now HowardRoark follow and HowardRoark did not vote OGB either.

Scum = Caboose, HowardRoark.

Vote: Caboose

If this is your idea of distancing, that would make it very easy to find your scum partners. Thanks for the tip.

[darkdude]

Alvinz should say something before he is hammered.

[alvinz95]

Ok... this is complete BS.

Claim

vanilla

.

Caboose says he has information without a claim and EVERYONE believes him despite his ridiculously scummy behavior? What reason do we have to believe Caboose? How do we know Caboose is a pro-town role information role? What have I done besides -not do anything- which IS MY META, that is scummy? How am I the 'best' option today? Are you guys saying that all your other suspects have weak cases? If we are even believing Caboose, how is skitzer a worse option than me? From what I've read, there's is more evidence supporting a skitzer lynch.

This is a very unbased lynch full of a bunch of wagoners. There are many holes in this wagon that have not been answered yet. I sense a speed-lynch. Answer those questions and I'll accept the town's mistake, if you don't you guys are just plain stupid.

[alvinz95]

I would really prefer that we didn't lynch Alvinz without even hearing a claim (even if

some

people seem to think that's scummy). Caboose may have had "role based" info on Alvinz on Day 1, but he didn't vote for Alvinz initially, and today, he hasn't voted for either of the people he's supposed to have info. on. So, I still have questions.

I was seeing which wagon would build first: skitzer or alvinz.

Can I drop the hammer now, or does anyone insist on an alvinz claim?

This is also very plotting... waiting to see which wagon builds up first.

[alvinz95]

As I read the votes, here's how most of them go.

"I'll go with this."

"Ok."

"I'm going to jump on this wagon cause i can't scumhunt"

"I like this wagon cause its easy."

"I don't like writing content cause i'm a lazy bastard"

"Meh."

"this is our best option today cause caboose said so and he was really protown in how he defended OGB."

"Wow, i like wagonning."

"I hope no one gets me for this, i want alvinz to say something before he gets hammered just so i look a little more protown."

[alvinz95]

Lets take a look at the voters:

alvinz95 (9): HowardRoark, roflcopter, SpyreX, darkdude, Axelrod, Mufasa, tubby216, Starbuck, ekiM

Only roflcopter and SpyreX have posted original content. The rest have either wagonned, done little, or have acted scummy.

Does this look like a valid lynch? HOW THE FUCK DO WE KNOW THAT CABOOSE IS TOWN, WHEN HE IS CLEARLY SCUM?

[X]

alvinz, we don't know if Caboose is telling the truth, but if he claims inside knowledge that you're scum, at least one of you has to be scum. And it's not like it's LYLO where we have to figure out which one of you is telling the truth. Finally, you haven't looked for scum.

Lets take a look at the voters:

alvinz95 (9): HowardRoark, roflcopter, SpyreX, darkdude, Axelrod, Mufasa, tubby216, Starbuck, ekiM

Only roflcopter and SpyreX have posted original content. The rest have either wagonned, done little, or have acted scummy.

Does this look like a valid lynch? HOW THE FUCK DO WE KNOW THAT CABOOSE IS TOWN, WHEN HE IS CLEARLY SCUM?

So HowardRoark, darkdude, Axelrod, Mufasa, tubby216, Starbuck, and ekiM are scum? You must see where this argument falls short.

Vote: alvinz95

.

[Mufasa]

lol I think we have two in one deal with this duo

[Axelrod]

This may sound obvious, but I don't care.

Alvinz comes up scum, all's well. Someone with a vig. kill should take care of Skitzer during the night.

Alvinz comes up town, Caboose is scum or (a very, very stupid) Paranoid/Insane Cop. Either way, the same hypothetical vig., needs to take him down.

[alvinz95]

alvinz, we don't know if Caboose is telling the truth, but if he claims inside knowledge that you're scum, at least one of you has to be scum. And it's not like it's LYLO where we have to figure out which one of you is telling the truth. Finally, you haven't looked for scum.

Lets take a look at the voters:

alvinz95 (9): HowardRoark, roflcopter, SpyreX, darkdude, Axelrod, Mufasa, tubby216, Starbuck, ekiM

Only roflcopter and SpyreX have posted original content. The rest have either wagonned, done little, or have acted scummy.

Does this look like a valid lynch? HOW THE FUCK DO WE KNOW THAT CABOOSE IS TOWN, WHEN HE IS CLEARLY SCUM?

So HowardRoark, darkdude, Axelrod, Mufasa, tubby216, Starbuck, and ekiM are scum? You must see where this argument falls short.

Vote: alvinz95

.

No, see here's where you make a huge exaggeration. I didn't say they were scum, I implied that they were either scum, worthless townies, or just 'tards that don't feel like doing anything.

[alvinz95]

This town is full of fucking idiots who will follow anyone. Hell I bet someone will claim jester right now and everyone will believe him/her. If ANY town follows Axelrod's advice, then they are pretty much fucked as that you ALWAYS NEED TO TAKE THE BEST OPTION-THERE IS NEVER ROOM FOR ERROR. I clearly was not the best option available and the town blew it. NONE OF YOU EVEN ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS BEFORE YOUR HAMMER, THIS IS HOW FAIL THE WAGON IS. HowardRoark, you just majorly screwed yourself over by saying that I was BUDDYING WITH YOU. Good job winning dammit. I feel sorry for you real scum hunters that use actual evidence rather than sketchy role information. Good luck controlling your town. I'm going to say there's going to be AT LEAST 3 SCUM on my wagon. There was no good reason to start a wagon on me besides Caboose's random statement that I was scum. X, good luck winning the game with that kind of playing, hammering me without everybody reading what I said.

I'm leaving mafiascum for good anyway, so farewell everyone. I'm going out with a bang. Good luck you epic fail town (excluding the actual good players), you will never win if you continue to play like that. NOW GO BWN SOME SCUM.

[alvinz95]

alvinz, we don't know if Caboose is telling the truth, but if he claims inside knowledge that you're scum, at least one of you has to be scum. And it's not like it's LYLO where we have to figure out which one of you is telling the truth. Finally, you haven't looked for scum.

Lets take a look at the voters:

alvinz95 (9): HowardRoark, roflcopter, SpyreX, darkdude, Axelrod, Mufasa, tubby216, Starbuck, ekiM

Only roflcopter and SpyreX have posted original content. The rest have either wagonned, done little, or have acted scummy.

Does this look like a valid lynch? HOW THE FUCK DO WE KNOW THAT CABOOSE IS TOWN, WHEN HE IS CLEARLY SCUM?

So HowardRoark, darkdude, Axelrod, Mufasa, tubby216, Starbuck, and ekiM are scum? You must see where this argument falls short.

Vote: alvinz95

.

Quintessence of jumping to false conclusions, and what the majority of the town is like.

[alvinz95]

Ok, I'm sorry guys, I'm being a bit harsh. Not trying to incite anything personal, just noting how bad your case is.

[SpyreX]

Ok... this is complete BS.

Claim vanilla.

Caboose says he has information without a claim and EVERYONE believes him despite his ridiculously scummy behavior? What reason do we have to believe Caboose? How do we know Caboose is a pro-town role information role? What have I done besides -not do anything- which IS MY META, that is scummy? How am I the 'best' option today? Are you guys saying that all your other suspects have weak cases? If we are even believing Caboose, how is skitzer a worse option than me? From what I've read, there's is more evidence supporting a skitzer lynch.

This is a very unbased lynch full of a bunch of wagoners. There are many holes in this wagon that have not been answered yet. I sense a speed-lynch. Answer those questions and I'll accept the town's mistake, if you don't you guys are just plain stupid.

Caboose has been scummy. Yes.

However, this is nowhere near lylo and Caboose has, inherently, offered himself up for the wolves if you are scum. Moreso, the chances of this being a bus considering he has said he has TWO scum hits is just too much to not take up.

You, of your own accord, have done very little. You are a litmus test that, one way or another, should bag scum.

Especially considering you're vanilla this is about as win-win as you can get.

(But, I'll give you that this has been a pretty unabashed list of wagoners - ultimately no one is getting 'cred' for this wagon. This is simply testing a PR)

[darkdude]

Alvinz's post-hammer post seems town.

Unvote]

X didn't unvote before voting so let's hope that wasn't the actual hammer.

[Starbuck]

Threatening to leave the site just because you were voted for in a game? My vote is moving on the sheer fact of your reaction and immaturity.