The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Stephoscope]

Whoa.

Well that's that, then. Anything else you want to get off your chest before the unknown effects take hold?

[Lamont_Cranston]

With that many people not voting, I would suggest if you are on the "not voting" list to place a vote.

Thank you.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Omgosh, he drank it.

[hohum]

Whoa.

Well that's that, then. Anything else you want to get off your chest before the unknown effects take hold?

Yes. This whole discussion was pointless and distracting. We should be looking for clues that the people who were largely steering it were also purposefully introducing confusion into the mix.

[Lamont_Cranston]

I think I will be doing that analysis, Hohum.

My opinions to follow sometime tonight.

[Devestation]

Any requests for your coffin Hohum?

[Sajin]

Well let us know what it does Hohum.


@mod plz note sig.

[hohum]

Any requests for your coffin Hohum?

Why are you so sure it does something bad?

[Lamont_Cranston]

If your name does not appear on my list, I have found your positions consistent & pro-town.

This analysis is

ONLY

based on the elixir.

Pyromaniac

-- Has both volunteered to drink and advocated dumping the liquid entirely. I have found his logic to be confusing to me on other positions and so it doesn't seem suprising that his elixir positions would change as well. Didn't seem to be steering. Neutral read.

Hohum

-- Has advocated giving it to a villager and then changed to give to nobody. Finally consumes and says the whole conversation was useless. Hard to know what to think. I can't imagine scum doing this so he must be town.

Pablo

-- Advocates having fun using the elixir over village safety. Rolefishes for a "vanilla townie" to volunteer. Eventually (very late) switches to "lets try it to test it early" argument. Definitely inconsistent and steering. +scum

Sajin

-- Heavily advocated for random assignment, steering. I find his logic confusing and his position +scum.

Sironi

-- Originally said "definitely someone should drink it" then changed to "nobody should use it." I'm going to call this light +scum

Stephoscope

-- Advocated random assignment heavily and combined "Let's force Lamont". Was attempting to steer on random assignment (at least early on).

The "red" ones are in order of scumminess regarding elixir policy. I did a full list of everyone but left most everyone off to avoid giving out to much info.

[hohum]

I wouldn't mind seeing lamont lynched, but I'd rather see pyro go. Thoughts?

Also: more pyro votes please.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Whoops I forgot:

Nyx

-- Very heavily random assignment (steering) then suddenly switches to no use and against voting. He tried very hard to steer that random assignment. His position has not been consistent and I think ultimately anti-town.

I would place him under Sajin in my original list.

[Lamont_Cranston]

I wouldn't mind seeing lamont lynched, but I'd rather see pyro go. Thoughts?

Also: more pyro votes please.

Comments like these are really anti-town. I think its time you got off your high horse and started contributing in a serious way.

Provide some substance or you really should be ignored.

[hohum]

So you got a pro town read on me before I made that post. All of a sudden I'm anti-town?

Which is it? It can't be either or when it suits your whims.

[Lamont_Cranston]

I said THAT COMMENT is anti-town.

[hohum]

you said comments, plural, implying that I've been doing anti-town stuff the entire time. You also never really asked me to explain why I'm advocating your lynch. You've got a big guilty sign around your neck.

[hohum]

I think its time you got off your high horse and started contributing in a serious way.

Also implies that you believe my behavior to be anti-town.

[Lamont_Cranston]

No sir I did not.

[Sajin]

How is random assignment steering at all? YOUR the one steering sir.

[Lamont_Cranston]

I think its time you got off your high horse and started contributing in a serious way.

Also implies that you believe my behavior to be anti-town.

Yes. Comments like that without substance don't help. You have been sort of "oh well who cares everybody is DUH" alot and that's great but it gets old after awhile.

I'd prefer some serious +town analysis if you don't mind.

[Lamont_Cranston]

How is random assignment steering at all? YOUR the one steering sir.

I am considering that random analysis is a strong anti-town argument because of the chance of hitting a town PR.

I provided my analysis as an opinion.

[Lamont_Cranston]

you said comments, plural, implying that I've been doing anti-town stuff the entire time. You also never really asked me to explain why I'm advocating your lynch. You've got a big guilty sign around your neck.

Look if you're going to make crap statements like that there is nothing to defend. I'd like to see a better pro-town attitude from you.

[hohum]

All I'm really doing is pointing out the contradictions in your posts. If that makes my play anti-town suddenly it's because you've got something to hide and you don't want anyone prying any deeper.

So far the entire game you've coasted by mostly agreeing with me. If you don't like the spotlight so much, then you should be posting some real case material and analysis instead of cycling through the town lobbing one-liner bombs at people.

While we're on the subject of crappy game play: I'd like to see a less stalky posting style from you.

[Lamont_Cranston]

All I'm really doing is pointing out the contradictions in your posts. If that makes my play anti-town suddenly it's because you've got something to hide and you don't want anyone prying any deeper.

Sorry but "I think Lamont should be lynched any comments" is not pointing out anything. Please provide some substance instead of crapo-attacks thanks.

So far the entire game you've coasted by mostly agreeing with me. If you don't like the spotlight so much, then you should be posting some real case material and analysis instead of cycling through the town lobbing one-liner bombs at people.

<--- Dear goodness, after a post like yours you DARE to say anything like that about ME!?

While we're on the subject of crappy game play: I'd like to see a less stalky posting style from you.

<--- FINALLY a shred of real analysis! Please elaborate on this "stalky" post style so I may respond.

[hohum]

I've been sitting here responding to you as you've brought up points. Just because I'd rather sit here and prod you for information rather than dump walls of text into this already fast-paced game doesn't mean my points aren't valid points.

The "I think you should be lynched" comment worked, because obviously you're starting to get emotional about it. Your "stalky" behavior is just that: you sit here and stalk the thread, waiting for an opportunity add that much more confusion. Take a fucking break dude and let other people comment -- I did. With 19 people in this game it's horrible to have uh (as of this post) 12 posts from one player on any one page.

Here's the bottom line: You're trying to draw conclusions from a largely WIFOM-driven conversation. I drank the decanter to put a fucking end to the madness -- even if it means my death. Do you REALLY think that it's possible to pull ANYTHING substantive out of that mess?

Your post 683 is mostly null. It might as well be a blank post for what you could actually prove based on the points you brought up.

[Naomi_Saotome]

Ok, obviously a grudge match is brewing...

I think Lamont's just trying to bring up points of us to think about. Is he trying to steer the town? No, probably not. Lamont, I can see you defending your case against hohums attacks, but why did you decide to bite his bait and describe him as anti-town?

Hohum, you've brought up some very good points to think about, he's likely to be as defensive as anyone else. While I see both your arguments as valid, it seems a bit distracting from the point you stated in 684. Why do you feel the need to pick him apart now, if you feel Pyro is a more important target?