Lynch All Lurkers Mafia! GAME OVER

[elvis_knits]

Tell me what the point is of having one weak information role (tracker) and one protective role, in an 18 player game? He's not even a cop, or some strong kind of power role. He's a tracker. It makes no sense to me.

Are there ever multiple trackers in a game?

We have to remember that Tajo was in a lot of trouble earlier. And tracker might have been a safe fakeclaim, given that we would expect a bunch of power roles in a game like this to track, if a real tracker existing wouldn't have exposed that someone was lying.

If Tajo is scum, he was exceedingly lucky when his alleged scumteam started being picked off and they all flipped town...

I wouldn't expect multiple trackers in the game, no, although I have seen that. But I would expect maybe a stronger information role like a cop, or other kinds of info roles.

I find it very odd for there to be SO many vanilla and then two random power roles.

[Stephoscope]

Tell me what the point is of having one weak information role (tracker) and one protective role, in an 18 player game? He's not even a cop, or some strong kind of power role. He's a tracker. It makes no sense to me.

Are there ever multiple trackers in a game?

We have to remember that Tajo was in a lot of trouble earlier. And tracker might have been a safe fakeclaim, given that we would expect a bunch of power roles in a game like this to track, if a real tracker existing wouldn't have exposed that someone was lying.

If Tajo is scum, he was exceedingly lucky when his alleged scumteam started being picked off and they all flipped town...

I wouldn't expect multiple trackers in the game, no, although I have seen that. But I would expect maybe a stronger information role like a cop, or other kinds of info roles.

I find it very odd for there to be SO many vanilla and then two random power roles.

Well, we need to think about not only what roles we expect, but also what it would have made sense for Tajo, if scum, to fakeclaim.

[elvis_knits]

Well it would make sense for him to claim a weaker info role. There's less chance of him getting counterclaimed. Like when I'm scum I have claimed backup cop. That's like the scummiest claim in the world. Tracker that gets roleblocked every night is almost as scummy.

[Empking]

Tell me what the point is of having one weak information role (tracker) and one protective role, in an 18 player game? He's not even a cop, or some strong kind of power role. He's a tracker. It makes no sense to me.

Are there ever multiple trackers in a game?

We have to remember that Tajo was in a lot of trouble earlier. And tracker might have been a safe fakeclaim, given that we would expect a bunch of power roles in a game like this to track, if a real tracker existing wouldn't have exposed that someone was lying.

If Tajo is scum, he was exceedingly lucky when his alleged scumteam started being picked off and they all flipped town...

I wouldn't expect multiple trackers in the game, no, although I have seen that. But I would expect maybe a stronger information role like a cop, or other kinds of info roles.

I find it very odd for there to be SO many vanilla and then two random power roles.

That's because you lie to yourself about there not being three neighbours claimed in this game.

[Xylthixlm]

Xyl; Image, I changed to Elvis as I thought she was towniest.
EK: Maybe town was too weak without a tracker and doctor?
Ort: They were the towniest but also likely to pick up a kill. Yes I believe his claim.

What changed your mind? Did you think roflcopter was less town, or was elvis more town?

[Empking]

Xyl; Image, I changed to Elvis as I thought she was towniest.
EK: Maybe town was too weak without a tracker and doctor?
Ort: They were the towniest but also likely to pick up a kill. Yes I believe his claim.

What changed your mind? Did you think roflcopter was less town, or was elvis more town?

Rofl was less town.

[Xylthixlm]

Xyl; Image, I changed to Elvis as I thought she was towniest.
EK: Maybe town was too weak without a tracker and doctor?
Ort: They were the towniest but also likely to pick up a kill. Yes I believe his claim.

What changed your mind? Did you think roflcopter was less town, or was elvis more town?

Rofl was less town.

What made you think that? Be specific.

Why was elvis your second choice?

[populartajo]

Elvis, dont be silly. If I were scum and I knew mafia were all goons then I wouldnt have claimed tracker. Thats so weak coming from me. Also, the assumption that me and Empking ahve to be scum together is indeed weak since Empking could have easily fakeclaimed vanilla if he were scum.

This isnt a mountanious setup since we have 3 masons a claimed doctor and 1 roleblocker (yes i know you would have to be me to realize this).

In other news, Xyl is scum.

Vote : Xyl.

[Xylthixlm]

Tajo, you've played several games with me. Why do you think I'm scum? Is it based on some meta, or are you going off a general tell?

[populartajo]

Do I have to make a case against you to prove that you have been off all the game, specially when pushing DGB wagon

Do you admit that you arent playing your current town meta and that your play here painfully reminds me of Mind Screw?

[Xylthixlm]

Do I have to make a case against you to prove that you have been off all the game, specially when pushing DGB wagon

Do you admit that you arent playing your current town meta and that your play here painfully reminds me of Mind Screw?

I admit nothing. Yes, you have to make a case. My views on self-voting should be well known by now.

In the meanwhile, I'm trying to determine your alignment. So answer the questions lest you make yourself look like evasive scum.

[populartajo]

Sure. Later.

You think I am scum, Xy?

[Stephoscope]

Do I have to make a case against you to prove that you have been off all the game, specially when pushing DGB wagon

Do you admit that you arent playing your current town meta and that your play here painfully reminds me of Mind Screw?

I have been suspicious of Xyl all game, but you'll have to put a case together that doesn't involve meta to convince me.

[Empking]

Xyl; Image, I changed to Elvis as I thought she was towniest.
EK: Maybe town was too weak without a tracker and doctor?
Ort: They were the towniest but also likely to pick up a kill. Yes I believe his claim.

What changed your mind? Did you think roflcopter was less town, or was elvis more town?

Rofl was less town.

What made you think that? Be specific.

Why was elvis your second choice?

Rofl wasn't posting and when he did post he was trying to lead the town.

Elvis has been posting like she's scum hunting.

[Xylthixlm]

Sure. Later.

You think I am scum, Xy?

I think you could be scum. I'm grilling you to get information to make up my mind.

If you don't answer the questions the answer will be "yes, because he didn't answer the questions".

[Xylthixlm]

Rofl wasn't posting and when he did post he was trying to lead the town.

Elvis has been posting like she's scum hunting.

What exactly was different between roflcopter and elvis that made you think rofl was "trying to lead the town" whereas elvis was "scum hunting"?

[populartajo]

This is the question you are refering to?

I would like Empking, populartajo, and image to answer this question: Which of the other two on that list do you think is most likely to be scum?

Empking is doc. POE leaves Image but not even close to be optymal lynch.

You see, this is the type of questions that make me think you are scum. What is the point of that question?

[Empking]

Rofl wasn't posting and when he did post he was trying to lead the town.

Elvis has been posting like she's scum hunting.

What exactly was different between roflcopter and elvis that made you think rofl was "trying to lead the town" whereas elvis was "scum hunting"?

Most of ROFL's posts were telling people to vote for somebody. Most of Elvis' posts were trying to work out who were scum.

[elvis_knits]

Tajo, why are you voting first and giving reasons later?

[populartajo]

Tajo, why are you voting first and giving reasons later?

Because I dont have time to quote things in my office.

I have voted Xyl since yesterday and I have explained why. No one listens me just because Im a claimed tracker in a "mointanuos" setup. No one.

Well, then you ahve a doctor and 3 masons, are you going to listen me now? Even after Emp claimed you came out with "oh, look, this is so easy, Emp and Tajo are scum, lynchplox".

Elvis, you think Xyl is town?

[Xylthixlm]

This is the question you are refering to?

I would like Empking, populartajo, and image to answer this question: Which of the other two on that list do you think is most likely to be scum?

Empking is doc. POE leaves Image but not even close to be optymal lynch.

You see, this is the type of questions that make me think you are scum. What is the point of that question?

No, I'm referring to the ones about why you think I'm scum. But that one's good to have answered too.

As for the point of the question, I'm looking for possible inconsistencies between your answers and your play, as well as things that might lead to followup questions. That's how grilling works.

[Xylthixlm]

Tajo, you've played several games with me. Why do you think I'm scum? Is it based on some meta, or are you going off a general tell?

Just answer this question. I want to understand your reasoning here. You don't need to provide the supporting evidence, just say why you think I'm scum in as much detail as you remember off the top of your head.

[elvis_knits]

Elvis, you think Xyl is town?

I don't know.

Tell me why you think he's scum. Generally. I don't care about quotes or a long windbag post. Just the main points.

Also, interested to what you said about mindscrew3 and how you think he's the same.

[Xylthixlm]

poptajo: Why do you believe Empking's doc claim? What did you think about him before the claim?

[Yosarian2]

1 MafiaSSK (Empking)
1 Xylthixlm (populartajo)

7 Not Voting(elvis_knits, image, Kinetic, MafiaSSK, ortolan, Xylthixlm, Stephoscope)

9 alive; 5 to lynch.