Lynch All Lurkers Mafia! GAME OVER

[ortolan]

I'm taking over the popcorning

I'm vanilla

Empking, please claim

[elvis_knits]

Kinetic, who the hell ever wanted the LINK to your QT? I agree that seems like cheating.

But I fail to see why you can't paraphrase anything from the QT. I don't understand what the big deal is. What has been the subject of dicussion? I can't see how that is against the rules or bending the rules. I feel like you're hiding something.

[elvis_knits]

4. Xylthixlm
5. image - vanilla
8. MafiaSSK - mason
9. Empking
12. elvis_knits
13. q21Kinetic - mason
14. Stephoscope - mason
15. populartajo - tracker
17. ortolan - vanilla

[Empking]

Doctor - Rofl, Rofl, Elvis

Xyl, Claim.

[Xylthixlm]

vanilla townie.

I guess that leaves elvis.

[Xylthixlm]

Oh, and I see Empking

still

has his vote on MafiaSSK. That + the claim move Empking up to scum.

[elvis_knits]

I am vanilla.

Here's the official list of claims:

4. Xylthixlm - vanilla
5. image - vanilla
8. MafiaSSK - mason
9. Empking - doc
12. elvis_knits - vanilla
13. q21Kinetic - mason
14. Stephoscope - mason
15. populartajo - tracker
17. ortolan - vanilla

[elvis_knits]

Doctor - Rofl, Rofl, Elvis

Xyl, Claim.

Convenient how you protected rofl every night until the one he actually got killed.

[Stephoscope]

Oh, and I see Empking

still

has his vote on MafiaSSK. That + the claim move Empking up to scum.

For the record, I think have my vote there too. I don't share your opinion that all the masons are town.

That said, it's time to recalibrate after the massclaim.

Unvote

[elvis_knits]

I say tajo and empking are scum, with image as possible third buddy if there is a third.

I am WIFOMing with myself would tajo's scum buddy be stupid enough to claim a power role. In most cases, answer is likely no. With Empking, answer likely yes.

Agree? Disagree?

[Xylthixlm]

Doctor - Rofl, Rofl, Elvis

Xyl, Claim.

Convenient how you protected rofl every night until the one he actually got killed.

Very.

I'm up for an Empking lynch here.

[Empking]

I say tajo and empking are scum, with image as possible third buddy if there is a third.

I am WIFOMing with myself would tajo's scum buddy be stupid enough to claim a power role. In most cases, answer is likely no. With Empking, answer likely yes.

Agree? Disagree?

i are not dumb.

[Stephoscope]

I dunno. There have been a *lot* of vanilla flips and claims. Empking's claimed protections are admittedly convenient, but also make sense. Why is his roleclaim so suspicious?

I'd be more comfortable lynching a claimed vanilla.

[Xylthixlm]

I would like Empking, populartajo, and image to answer this question: Which of the other two on that list do you think is most likely to be scum?

[Xylthixlm]

Also, Empking, what made you decide to protect elvis instead of roflcopter night 3?

[Xylthixlm]

Stephoscope: Why do you believe one of the masons may be scum? Are you scum? Do you think that the fact that all dead townies were vanilla makes the remaining townies more likely to be vanilla, or less likely? Which do you think would be more balanced, three masons or three masons + a tracker + a doctor?

[elvis_knits]

I say tajo and empking are scum, with image as possible third buddy if there is a third.

I am WIFOMing with myself would tajo's scum buddy be stupid enough to claim a power role. In most cases, answer is likely no. With Empking, answer likely yes.

Agree? Disagree?

i are not dumb.

One of my favorite sayings is:

I may be dumb, but I am not stupid.

[Stephoscope]

Stephoscope: Why do you believe one of the masons may be scum? Are you scum? Do you think that the fact that all dead townies were vanilla makes the remaining townies more likely to be vanilla, or less likely? Which do you think would be more balanced, three masons or three masons + a tracker + a doctor?

No, I'm not scum. As far as I'm concerned, if we masons are all town, that should have been in our role PM--just as I originally interpreted it. The ambiguity leads me to assume we're not all town. SSK's behavior has been completely anti-town and Kinetic might be trying a little too hard now; I could see either of them being scum.

I would have expected one or two more power roles to surface in the roleclaim, but admittedly I don't really feel qualified to evaluate the balance. I'll think about it, though.

[elvis_knits]

I dunno. There have been a *lot* of vanilla flips and claims. Empking's claimed protections are admittedly convenient, but also make sense. Why is his roleclaim so suspicious?

I'd be more comfortable lynching a claimed vanilla.

Everyone who has flipped in the game is vanilla town or mafia goon. That is the only thing we can be sure of. There is a complete lack of power roles on either town or mafia side.

That makes me think that either the game is mountainous, or that virtually everyone left in the game should be a power role, and we have been exceedingly lucky to have them all survive this far. I know I am not a power role.

18 players

Confirmed through death:
2 mafia goons
7 vanilla townie

Claimed (2-4 of these are faking):
4 vanilla townie
3 masons
1 doc
1 tracker

[Empking]

I dunno. There have been a *lot* of vanilla flips and claims. Empking's claimed protections are admittedly convenient, but also make sense. Why is his roleclaim so suspicious?

I'd be more comfortable lynching a claimed vanilla.

Everyone who has flipped in the game is vanilla town or mafia goon. That is the only thing we can be sure of. There is a complete lack of power roles on either town or mafia side.

That makes me think that either the game is mountainous, or that virtually everyone left in the game should be a power role, and we have been exceedingly lucky to have them all survive this far. I know I am not a power role.

18 players

Confirmed through death:
2 mafia goons
7 vanilla townie

Claimed (2-4 of these are faking):
4 vanilla townie
3 masons
1 doc
1 tracker

So despite the fact that five power roles have claimed and you think one of them has to be telling the truth. You still think the game is mountainious? Rather than just having a below normal number of power roles?

[Xylthixlm]

Empking, answer my questions.

[elvis_knits]

I dunno. There have been a *lot* of vanilla flips and claims. Empking's claimed protections are admittedly convenient, but also make sense. Why is his roleclaim so suspicious?

I'd be more comfortable lynching a claimed vanilla.

Everyone who has flipped in the game is vanilla town or mafia goon. That is the only thing we can be sure of. There is a complete lack of power roles on either town or mafia side.

That makes me think that either the game is mountainous, or that virtually everyone left in the game should be a power role, and we have been exceedingly lucky to have them all survive this far. I know I am not a power role.

18 players

Confirmed through death:
2 mafia goons
7 vanilla townie

Claimed (2-4 of these are faking):
4 vanilla townie
3 masons
1 doc
1 tracker

So despite the fact that five power roles have claimed and you think one of them has to be telling the truth. You still think the game is mountainious? Rather than just having a below normal number of power roles?

The masons can't confirm each other, so they are not useful to us in any way. They might as well be vanilla.

Tell me what the point is of having one weak information role (tracker) and one protective role, in an 18 player game? He's not even a cop, or some strong kind of power role. He's a tracker. It makes no sense to me.

[Stephoscope]

Tell me what the point is of having one weak information role (tracker) and one protective role, in an 18 player game? He's not even a cop, or some strong kind of power role. He's a tracker. It makes no sense to me.

Are there ever multiple trackers in a game?

We have to remember that Tajo was in a lot of trouble earlier. And tracker might have been a safe fakeclaim, given that we would expect a bunch of power roles in a game like this to track, if a real tracker existing wouldn't have exposed that someone was lying.

If Tajo is scum, he was exceedingly lucky when his alleged scumteam started being picked off and they all flipped town...

[ortolan]

Empking why did you protect who you did on each night?

Do you believe tajo's claim?

[Empking]

Xyl; Image, I changed to Elvis as I thought she was towniest.
EK: Maybe town was too weak without a tracker and doctor?
Ort: They were the towniest but also likely to pick up a kill. Yes I believe his claim.