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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:35 pm

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roflcopter wrote:caboose, why would you rather policy vote/lynch alvinz than pursue what you agree is a legitimate argument in favor of voting ogb?
Not a policy vote.

You'll see....
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:36 pm

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a purely academic question:

which of these two things benefits the town more?

a 2nd vote for a player based on policy

a 6th vote for a player based on gameplay
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:37 pm

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woof. i don't like korts' post 49. mostly the fact that he's deflating the ogb wagon by removing himself from it.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:38 pm

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Caboose wrote:
roflcopter wrote:caboose, why would you rather policy vote/lynch alvinz than pursue what you agree is a legitimate argument in favor of voting ogb?
Not a policy vote.

You'll see....
oh really? please, do explain how voting for someone on the basis of agreeing with iaun's policy vote is not a policy vote.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:40 pm

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roflcopter wrote:woof. i don't like korts' post 49. mostly the fact that he's deflating the ogb wagon by removing himself from it.
I have found a better one. Seraphim presenting others' points as his own, labelling a completely normal reaction backtracking, and having general scummy tone is better than wanting players to identity-guess.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:41 pm

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Korts: Of course the argument is bullshit. The question was intentionally loaded to provoke reactions. Plus, if I actually thought that the "backtracking" was scummy, I would have placed my vote there.

OGB still has yet to post anything of note besides fueling alt speculation which is useless which is why my vote is there.

rofl is probably town.

Caboose, please explain. If it's not a policy vote, what is it?
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:43 pm

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Korts wrote:
roflcopter wrote:woof. i don't like korts' post 49. mostly the fact that he's deflating the ogb wagon by removing himself from it.
I have found a better one. Seraphim presenting others' points as his own, labelling a completely normal reaction backtracking, and having general scummy tone is better than wanting players to identity-guess.
i can't agree that there's any better place to vote until ogb actually starts participating. the fact that he's obviously following along enough to post useless crap here, and simultaneously has been posting in other threads, but can't seem to bring himself to actually be anything but a useless sack is impeding my ability to vote for anyone but him.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:43 pm

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roflcopter wrote:
Caboose wrote:
roflcopter wrote:caboose, why would you rather policy vote/lynch alvinz than pursue what you agree is a legitimate argument in favor of voting ogb?
Not a policy vote.

You'll see....
oh really? please, do explain how voting for someone on the basis of agreeing with iaun's policy vote is not a policy vote.
I'm not trying to get alvinz
lynched
I'm trying to see if he will break down under the pressure.
which of these two things benefits the town more?

a 2nd vote for a player based on policy

a 6th vote for a player based on gameplay
Depends on the circumstances.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:44 pm

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Seraphim wrote:Korts: Of course the argument is bullshit. The question was intentionally loaded to provoke reactions. Plus, if I actually thought that the "backtracking" was scummy, I would have placed my vote there.
Accusing players of things they didn't do (i.e. doing something scummy yourself) is only likely to provoke one kind of reaction--suspicion. You are being thick if you think otherwise.
Seraphim wrote:OGB still has yet to post anything of note besides fueling alt speculation which is useless which is why my vote is there.
In the 14 minutes between this post of yours and the previous one OGB didn't post at all. Do you expect him to post every five minutes, and if not, what was the purpose of this comment?
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:45 pm

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caboose, thats still a policy vote. and i've never seen a policy vote actually succeed in applying real pressure to a player, because everyone knows its based on out of game reasons. policy voting players one considers to be bad in the face of perfectly good wagons replete with in game reasons is one of the more egregious forms of avoiding putting your vote anywhere meaningful.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:45 pm

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roflcopter wrote:
Korts wrote:
roflcopter wrote:woof. i don't like korts' post 49. mostly the fact that he's deflating the ogb wagon by removing himself from it.
I have found a better one. Seraphim presenting others' points as his own, labelling a completely normal reaction backtracking, and having general scummy tone is better than wanting players to identity-guess.
i can't agree that there's any better place to vote until ogb actually starts participating. the fact that he's obviously following along enough to post useless crap here, and simultaneously has been posting in other threads, but can't seem to bring himself to actually be anything but a useless sack is impeding my ability to vote for anyone but him.
I'd vote for scummy over anti-town any day of the week.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:46 pm

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korts: are you saying ogb's actions so far are anti-town but not scummy?
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:48 pm

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He has made 3 posts. I see a tendency in the quality of his posting, but so far it is not a wide enough sample to dub it scummy per se.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:48 pm

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Ah, but is it true suspicion or scummy faked suspicion/outrage? There's a difference and that's what I'm aiming for. Useless now, of course. But at this point in the game, it's all about reactions. These early game impressions are important and I want to take full advantage of them.

The purpose of the comment was simply restating the case against OGB.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:49 pm

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roflcopter wrote:caboose, thats still a policy vote. and i've never seen a policy vote actually succeed in applying real pressure to a player, because everyone knows its based on out of game reasons. policy voting players one considers to be bad in the face of perfectly good wagons replete with in game reasons is one of the more egregious forms of avoiding putting your vote anywhere meaningful.
My vote is not based on out of game reasons. I vote in the hopes that either he will prove himself town or make a scum slip under pressure.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:52 pm

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Seraphim wrote:Ah, but is it true suspicion or scummy faked suspicion/outrage? There's a difference and that's what I'm aiming for. Useless now, of course. But at this point in the game, it's all about reactions. These early game impressions are important and I want to take full advantage of them.
I like how you blame the town for ruining your brilliant trap.

The OGB case didn't need restating, since it was made like half a page ago. Stop padding your posts with useless shit.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:53 pm

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EBWOP:

since it was made like half a page
and 14 minutes
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:55 pm

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I think Caboose, Seraphim, and OGB are all scumbuddies.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:56 pm

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I'm not blaming the town at all. The foiling of the trap was of my own making.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:57 pm

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i'm unconvinced on the seraphim-as-scum thing, but i like where charter's head is at

i also really don't buy korts now pseudo-defending ogb because there is "not enough to go on." sometimes one post is all it takes. arguing that he hasn't said enough to get a read on is some kind of fallacy.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:58 pm

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roflcopter wrote:i'm unconvinced on the seraphim-as-scum thing, but i like where charter's head is at
Oh, the irony.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:59 pm

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well I would like to make a claim that I am here
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:59 pm

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rofl, if OGB consistently ignores the game, he is scummy. If he ignores it over the span of three posts, I don't see where he is all that damaging to town.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 12:59 pm

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Add Mufasa to that triangle, and I get you a scum quartet. Now to determine the number of scum in this game. This will be the challenging task.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 1:00 pm

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Mufasa wrote:well I would like to make a claim that I am here
...what?

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