The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Lamont_Cranston]

I really don't care who drinks it.
I really have no idea what it can do. Speculation is bad anyway.

But, SOMEONE should drink it.

Hah.

Xtoxm's rush to grab/drink/take the decanter is what has me worried
*snip*

Amished,
are you implying you think other people have inside information about the decanter or items in general?

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Ok so..

I still really don't care who drinks the decanter...

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I agree with Alaska.

*Awaits Pyro case*
A lot of people agree with you... I think you're going over the top and you're a little bit pushy...

Fos Pyro

... Pushy?

He hasn't forced anyone to believe see his viewpoint. He's just been... right.

Right =/= Pushy

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Other than that... if this game is made to be anti-town, I'll agree with what other people said before. It seems like a better action -

Just play it like an "everyone is a Vanilla Townie" game and avoid using these items we don't know the effects to.

This appears quite out of place based on where this argument currently stands...

Please explain why Xtoxm's argument about proving the item early in the game is bad for the town...

FoS Sironi

[Sironigous]

Lamont -

I kinda changed my mind on that after everyone kept bringing up rule 13.

It seems safer for town to just not use anything.

If that doesn't work...
I say use this one and every item given to usl. Selective item choosing would seem opportunistic... unless that item

obviously

has a protown effect, henceforth it should be used on the most protown player.

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The part about Xtox...

I never said

proving

an item is bad...

But, my view on those items is that they can be good or bad... so... I guess assume the worst.

Though hope for the best...

[Amished]

@Lamont: If as many people thought that using the decanter was useful, I assumed I wasn't seeing something. Same with the vig n0 argument, and that's about as bad as it gets (I highly doubt that it'll switch alignments. So, if I view us to use it to the benefit of the town, even if negative effects I think that the negative effects should go to someone more scummy. Hopefully town power roles aren't acting that scummy to fall into my range, so then they'd be rather protected. I'm just giving an example as to how I would use it and provide my logic for said action. While Hohum is away, I seem to find that right now is the best time to try to discuss uses and then he can come and decide or take a majority opinion.

(btw: I do want to see the logic behind a n0 vig kill being more pro-town than anti-town eventually).

[Devestation]

Anyone who uses or suggests the use of any items on anyone, regardless of their scumminess or method of selection, is making themselves look scummy in mye eyes.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Anyone who uses or suggests the use of any items on anyone, regardless of their scumminess or method of selection, is making themselves look scummy in mye eyes.

I agree with you. I think the best thing to do is ignore the items -- BUT, when Xtoxm quoted how there are day and night items and how it COULD be a "battle of items", it made sense to me that we should try ONE item out to see if this is true.

Now it remains for the best way to choose how it should be used. I think volunteers is a bad way to go because of the potential abuse & encouraging volunteers can also be a subtle form of rolefishing. Randomization has the terrible possibility of killing a village power role.

Specific assignment from any individual or small group of individuals is terribly scummy as well.

I think the only way it can be safely assigned is for a village-wide vote. All faction(s) will be outnumbered by the total number of town votes which gives the assignment the greatest chance of being town-oriented. Anything less than this I hold to be scummy.

[Devestation]

EXCEPT

I nearly forgot

EXCEPT EXCEPT EXCEPT

If we know what the item does. If its like, a gun, we should have a decent number of people being pretty damn sure as to the fact that the person who the gun is being used on is anti-town.

[Xtoxm]

Well, we still wouldn't know for sure. It could backfire and kill the user or something. We aren't going to

know

for certain what an item does, until we use it.

[Devestation]

thats bastard modding and as nasty as this game is supposed to be, I don't think this game ***quite*** qualifies

[Xtoxm]

Well, the mod wants us to use our brains in this game.

"A loaded gun has appeared"

Sounds a bit obvious, so it wouldn't suprise me.

[Knight of Cydonia]

A Vote Count will appear in the next hour or so.

Kratos will be prodded.

Quit w(h)ining.

[Devestation]

I dont think Knight of Cydonia is about to make it that obvious...

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

I'm sorry I couldn't do anything, I am essentially dead (Not literally, more in a manner of not being awake/in a clear state of mind.), but I have read through 18 pages.

I'm hungry now, so if I do post anything with content today, it will be later.

[Amished]

Well, you could find an old gun without ammo, while having half the town get a bullet during the night. the old gun had an obstruction in it and bam, backfire and die. or barrel was slightly crooked and you shoot the person "to the left" or something. Either way, nothing will probably be quite what it seems. Also, speculating about what specific items will come up later seems like a great time-waster, but not something that should really be done.

[Xtoxm]

Yeh it is, I was just making a point.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Anyone who uses or suggests the use of any items on anyone, regardless of their scumminess or method of selection, is making themselves look scummy in mye eyes.

I agree with you. I think the best thing to do is ignore the items -- BUT, when Xtoxm quoted how there are day and night items and how it COULD be a "battle of items", it made sense to me that we should try ONE item out to see if this is true.

Now it remains for the best way to choose how it should be used. I think volunteers is a bad way to go because of the potential abuse & encouraging volunteers can also be a subtle form of rolefishing. Randomization has the terrible possibility of killing a village power role.

Specific assignment from any individual or small group of individuals is terribly scummy as well.

I think the only way it can be safely assigned is for a village-wide vote. All faction(s) will be outnumbered by the total number of town votes which gives the assignment the greatest chance of being town-oriented. Anything less than this I hold to be scummy.

Devastation, you are very high on my village list right now. Please respond to the bolded green statement because I think I am going to be forced to hold opposing the indicated concept as scummy.

It hurts me deeply to say that because it is a concept after my own heart... :'(

[Stephoscope]

I wonder if the mod has even decided what the drink does yet.

[Alabaska J]

I think you three need to clarify this case against Naomi because I'm just not seeing it. For the most part she has held sane views. So far you are pulling two posts out and I haven't seen a really good explanation yet.

most of it makes sense, technically. the problem is, almost every time, someone else has said it first. she parrots people to the point of contradicting herself. she hasn't really added anything to this game other than being noncommittal and pasting again what others have said.

I can make the same case for Naomi as you did for Pablo except the case against pablo is

stronger

.

There are also plenty of people that have contributed far less than Naomi and frankly all I've gotten from her so far is a village read that is easily led under pressure.

she's posted quite a bit actually. her content has been inherently noncommittal and wishy-washy, and you can't say the same for Pablo IMO. i think the case on naomi is much stronger. she seems like stereotypical noobscum to me

[Alabaska J]

Anyone who uses or suggests the use of any items on anyone, regardless of their scumminess or method of selection, is making themselves look scummy in mye eyes.

I agree with you.

good god this game is full of fail

why in the world would you want to waste possible information

[Lamont_Cranston]

Anyone who uses or suggests the use of any items on anyone, regardless of their scumminess or method of selection, is making themselves look scummy in mye eyes.

I agree with you.

good god this game is full of fail

why in the world would you want to waste possible information

I've addressed this

repeatedly

in previous posts.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I wonder if the mod has even decided what the drink does yet.

I AM disappointed. This is a carefully orchestrated, perfectly planned mindfuck of a game, and if anything happens, it is because I want it to, and random.org has said so.

Vote Count

Lamont_Cranston - 1 (Sajin)
hohum - 1 (Pablo Molinero)
Sajin - 2 (Amished, hohum)
Naomi_Saotome - 5 (Xtoxm, unpopulartajo, Sironigous, NuevaVida, Devestation,
Pyromaniac)
Pablo Molinero - 2 (Lamont_Cranston, Naomi_Saotome)

Not Voting - Everyone Else, Duh.

[NuevaVida]

MOD PLEASE PROD
Malkon
Alabaska J Kratos
Pablo Molinero

[Devestation]

I'm a hardline conservative, Lamont. If I don't know what it does, I won't touch it

A battle of items would require a higher rate of items compared to what we get now, although this might happen.

[Pablo Molinero]

Oi, currently being killed by school. Will surface tomorrow.

[Alabaska J]

MOD PLEASE PROD
Malkon

Alabaska J

Kratos
Pablo Molinero

what the hell? you've made like two posts the entire game and are obviously not reading the thread if you think i need prodding.

i don't understand why you people who are afraid the decanter is gonna hurt someone just let someone else try it

[Stephoscope]

I wonder if the mod has even decided what the drink does yet.

I AM disappointed. This is a carefully orchestrated, perfectly planned mindfuck of a game, and if anything happens, it is because I want it to, and random.org has said so.

Fair enough