The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Lamont_Cranston]

we need to generate discussion. how does everyone feel about no lynches?

Anyone who advocates NL Day 1 is advocating an advantage for the Mafi. Basically its like saying, "Let's pretend D1 never happened".

Why would you even think of advocating this?

[Naomi_Saotome]

hrm... lets see...
It seems like a good idea, seeing as we wouldn't be lynching ourselves...
but then we'd be no closer to finding the scum... we'd have to hope they screw up and show their true colors...

[hohum]

Static probabilities actually dictate D1 play. We've got a better chance of lynching scum tomorrow if we mis-lynch today rather than no-lynch.

Of course calling for a no-lynch before anyone has had a chance to discuss anythign is generally considered a newbie-scum tell

[Lamont_Cranston]

Ya static probabilities suck. The village loses before the odds get good anyway. We as village have to BEAT the odds by logical elimination/deduction.

I would recommend the village work on getting two top suspects identified and forming a BW on both.

For now,

FoS Shadow Knight

[Nyx]

How come every time at least one person starts commenting about "no lynch" and always gets the same answer. BAD BAD BAD Day 1. You would think after a while people don't make the same mistakes.

[Pyromaniac]

We should definitely lynch D1. Who I'm not sure yet.

[Sajin]

With the exception of certain end game scenarios or smalltown, NL is bad m'kay?

@shadowknight: what do you think about the random voting stage?

[Naomi_Saotome]

How come every time at least one person starts commenting about "no lynch" and always gets the same answer. BAD BAD BAD Day 1. You would think after a while people don't make the same mistakes.

Probably because no one likes the idea of taking a risk/gamble that big...

[Lamont_Cranston]

We should definitely lynch D1. Who I'm not sure yet.

@Pyro

: why the hesitation?

[Lamont_Cranston]

I want to hear from:

Tajo
Steph
Unofficial
Malkon
Alabaska

I'd like to hear more from:

Pyro
Devastation
Nueva
Xtoxm
Kratos

:/

[Devestation]

I'll post a take on the more active players tonight, if thats what your asking.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Well ALL I'm REALLY saying is I'd like us all to work as a team to start identifying likely scum/lynch candidates and get the village moving in a healthy direction.

My player read is divided into two sections:

a) Top scummy players
b) Inactive/semi-lurking players

The B-list I have posted.

[Sironigous]

wait.

You want to lynch before everyone confirms? o_o

[hohum]

Ya static probabilities suck. The village loses before the odds get good anyway. We as village have to BEAT the odds by logical elimination/deduction.

You sound like you're trying to steer the town rather than scum hunt.

FoS

[hohum]

oops
wrong quote

[hohum]

EBWOP:

Well ALL I'm REALLY saying is I'd like us all to work as a team to start identifying likely scum/lynch candidates and get the village moving in a healthy direction.

My player read is divided into two sections:

a) Top scummy players
b) Inactive/semi-lurking players

The B-list I have posted.

You sound like you're trying to steer the town rather than scum hunt.

FoS

[Lamont_Cranston]

wait.

You want to lynch before everyone confirms? o_o

No I was referring to the fact that Pyro was basicaally contentless thus far and I consider that semi-lurking; although I am clear on the fact it is still early...

[Lamont_Cranston]

EBWOP:

Well ALL I'm REALLY saying is I'd like us all to work as a team to start identifying likely scum/lynch candidates and get the village moving in a healthy direction.

My player read is divided into two sections:

a) Top scummy players
b) Inactive/semi-lurking players

The B-list I have posted.

You sound like you're trying to steer the town rather than scum hunt.

FoS

Hohum I AM trying to steer the village. I am trying to steer it in the direction of scum hunting.

So far we have a heavy weight of people that are totally inactive OR semi-lurking without any substantive posts.

This is unhealthy and must change.

[hohum]

Relax. We'll get to it. These things always run their natural course. It doesn't make sense to go very far right now while we're still waiting for people to chime in because they'll just be that much further behind.

Steering is bad. I automatically distrust anyone who tries as a matter of policy.

[hohum]

If you want to sit here and poke people with your stick in the mean time I don't have an issue with that either. Scum hunting is always productive.

[hohum]

more productive than banter at any rate.

I know this is a large game so I'll try to cut down on my multi-posting.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Sad times then, it'd be nice to have people weigh in

so I can stop voting for every other person that comes around...

^^^ Kinda like that sorta...

[hohum]

Oh BTW Lamont:

I noticed you're still voting me. You've had at least 12 hours to make up some justification, so let's hear it.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Relax. We'll get to it. These things always run their natural course. It doesn't make sense to go very far right now while we're still waiting for people to chime in because they'll just be that much further behind.

I agree as long as we don't get lazy and allow a sub-culture of semi-lurking

Steering is bad. I automatically distrust anyone who tries as a matter of policy.

Right, I have refrained at this point from getting very specific on certain indivdiuals. My steering is a general one.

more productive than banter at any rate.

I know this is a large game so I'll try to cut down on my multi-posting.

Ok me too. If it doesn't change, we need to make the semi-lurkers pay. Over and out.

[hohum]

I want you to get specific instead of speaking in generalizations.

Please, don't refrain.