Open 137: Mountainous Multiball (GAME OVER!) before 781

[Flava Flave]

Scott, your logic that Kaiv and Zwet were suspected by Huntress and that Zwet and Kaiv are linked would make you, Huntress's other suspect, most likely to be Zer0's partner. I disagree with your logic on Zwet and Kaiv anyway, but just saying.

Zwet, why are you "positive" that Zer0 was telling the truth?

Furry. 1 scum group shot Empking and Huntress. They were probably shooting for scum as neither was very protown. The other group shot ekiM and Huntress. They could have probably gone either way with N1, but that N2 kill was NOT a protown player being NK'd. It seems the scum are gunning for each other for the most part, and you've been pretty protown. So that's probably why you are still alive.

Now, Scott. He's probably alive because the scum like the WIFOM that Zer0 set up. Because it worked at least on Zwet. While Zwet is alive, and Scott is alive, Zwet is tunneling on Scott. Scum can push his lynch, so why would they kill him?

I do not think Scott is scum B (along with Kav, and to a lesser extent FF and zwet).

So if you believe this, White Castle or Super was Zer0's partner. Do you see this as a likely scenario?

Wow! I had completely forgotten that he could be scum A. I was only thinking he could be scum B or town! This actually makes more sense.

This bothers me for some reason. I don't think I buy that you could have forgotten he could be A. Unless you really bought into Zer0's post that much, there's just no way. If you are A, and Scott isn't, I could see this post. If you are B, I could see you maybe laughing your ass off that Zer0 named a "townie" and maybe forgotten. Hell, I could almost see this coming from Scott's scum buddy knowing he may be going down. Definitely doesn't seem town though.

Vote SuperBridge

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Scott, how is Zer0 a known "liar". Known scum, yes. But known liar?

The “Bottom of the Top Post" Vote Count

zwetschenwasser -1- (Scott Brosius)
Scott Brosius -1- (zwetschenwasser)
SuperBridge -1- (Flava Flave)

Not Voting: SuperBridge, Kaiveran, White Castle, Furry

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to Lynch.

[White Castle]

OK everyone - what do you see that is striking about the two vote counts?

The “That's a Lynch!” Vote Count

Zer0ph34r -7- (Furry, zwetschenwasser, Empking, Kaiveran, Flava Flave, ekiM, Scott Brosius)

Empking -1- (Drench)
Drench -1- (Huntress)
Flava Flave -1- (Gregory)


Not Voting: White Castle, Zer0ph34r

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to Lynch.

If there's a mistake, let me know.

It was decided. The person who claimed scum had to go. The town ganged up on him and forced him into a small room that's only purpose was to kill anyone that would hurt the citizens of this town. The first person this would be used against was Zer0ph34r. The town chained him to the wall and locked a horse inside with him with it's backside to his body.

A villager named Scott Brosius open the the hatched in the ceiling of the room and, from above, spanked the horse in the ass repeatedly with the "Ass Spank 9000". After every spank in the ass, the horse kick Zer0 in face. Every kick, that is, except the last one. The last kick got him in the chest, and that kick not only kicked Zer0, but it set off the gun he had strapped to his chest.

Zer0ph34r,

Mafia Member of Group B

, was kicked to death by a horse Day 1.


There's 72 hours for players to send in their night choice if they have one

The “You's Gonna Die!” Vote Count

Gregory -5- (Furry, Scott Brosius, Flava Flave, Kaiveran zwetschenwasser)

Kaiveran -2-(White Castle, Huntress)
Furry -1- (Gregory)

Not Voting: SuperBridges

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch.

If there's a mistake, let me know.

As punishment for his presumed misdeeds, the town decided to circumcise the poor villager. Without getting into detail, it was truly a horrible experience, even a little for the villagers that took part in it. It was Zwet who took the final snip, "That's was fun, let's do it again sometime."

"I feel a little weird after that," a villager said.

"Yeah, me to," another added.

"What's wrong?" Zwet asked, "He was a bad dude and he needed a little snip snip to show him whats what."

They all looked at Gregory just as he died of discomfort and embarrassment. Once dead, the town decided to search him and his house only to find his PETA ID.

"Damn, he was a member of PETA? He's cleared. PETA doesn't have the brass ones to kill anyone."

Gregory,

Vanilla Townie

, Lynched Day 2


There's 72 hours for players to send in their night choice if they have one.

To me, it is that everyone who lynched Gregory also was in on the zero lynch. In fact, they are the only survivors from the zero lynch.

Further, the only two people alive who didn't vote Gregory are me (mod confirmed town) and SuperBridges. Super wanted to wait for the lynch, but zwet hammered prematurely.

There are at least two scum in the block of 5 voters. Two if Super is scum, three if super is town. Furry is unlikely scum if the vote order is correct (he being the first vote on both lynches).

Note to self: reread to see if Super followed up with outstanding items from yesterday with zwet. Kaiveran still hasn't answered my questions from yesterday. Research 2 vs 1 vs 4. Follow up with my own zwet accusations. Reread whole thread.

Top suspects: K, zwet, FF?

[Furry]

And FF goes way back up on the townie notes.

Zwet, why are you "positive" that Zer0 was telling the truth?

Cause he is gullible. Regardless of zwets alignment he cant be positive.

Furry. 1 scum group shot Empking and Huntress. They were probably shooting for scum as neither was very protown. The other group shot ekiM and Huntress. They could have probably gone either way with N1, but that N2 kill was NOT a protown player being NK'd. It seems the scum are gunning for each other for the most part, and you've been pretty protown. So that's probably why you are still alive.

I do not think Scott is scum B (along with Kav, and to a lesser extent FF and zwet).

So if you believe this, White Castle or Super was Zer0's partner. Do you see this as a likely scenario?

This is my problem really. I have WC as pretty town, I still think that was a town reaction during the whole mod-WIFOM incedient. That really only leaves Super as a good pairing to zero, but I have nothing to back it up given that drench did nothing and was replaced by someone who never commented on zero pre-claim. Super by himself doesnt look really scummy though, so im not really happy stringing him up on a PoE case.

Scott, how is Zer0 a known "liar". Known scum, yes. But known liar?

This, unlike what zwet said might be a slip. The only people who know if zero lied is his partner, scott, and if scott is scum A, his partner.

I dunno, maybe tomorrow after my final I will reread my top few picks, maybe vote. Run some numbers too and see what gives town best win chances if we could chose which scum goes.

Also for B claiming, if we end up with a 2-2-1 tomorrow they should claim if about to be lynched if there is a counter I trust someone to realize the best course of action, dont say it untill a counter occurs though. Town should fake it not as it gives scum A the game.

[Scott Brosius]

Scott, how is Zer0 a known "liar". Known scum, yes. But known liar?

I was referencing this quote by Huntress who said she had played with him before.

Hey, I'm pretty sure scot is zero's partner.

Zero ruined the game, he claimed on page 4 allready, and looking at his posts and getting a small indication of his personality, I don't think he lied and so scot is his partner.

He has lied in other games as town, claiming a non-existent scum-partner. Why would he not lie as scum? What is your read on Scott apart from Zer0's claim?

[Flava Flave]

Cause he is gullible. Regardless of zwets alignment he cant be positive.

I know this. Wanted his answer though...

That really only leaves Super as a good pairing to zero, but I have nothing to back it up given that drench did nothing and was replaced by someone who never commented on zero pre-claim.

What would you expect from Zer0's partner?

[zwetschenwasser]

It technically would be a slip confirming Scott as town, but I'm not willing to buy into his psychological suasions.

[Furry]

That really only leaves Super as a good pairing to zero, but I have nothing to back it up given that drench did nothing and was replaced by someone who never commented on zero pre-claim.

What would you expect from Zer0's partner?

Someone who detracted from the wagon slightly. The day was so short though, that its going to be almost impossible to get any definant read on what happened. I hope it is obvious I am not his partner, and I really dont think that Kav is his partner and pushed zero to second wagon in early game (see bussing is suicidal arguement), and I still dont think the way zwet tacked on a vote is too scummy. That leaves WC who I think is town, you who I think is town, although more likely B then A, Scott who I dont think is B, and Super, who never commented due to the flaker.

If I had to make an ordered list, it would be Super, FF, zwet as my top three. Even though it really is more of a top two then anything else. I would be willing to put a big bet on its Super/FF as the partner to Zero.

Now for what I would expect from his partner... links are nice but a short day makes them few and far between. If I was his partner I would of been on that wagon if at all possible, trying to take more credit then was really deserved. Basically best tactic for B is to make A think that they are VT, and therefore A who is supposed to be hunting B doesnt hit them.

[Furry]

Vote Scott

[Scott Brosius]

I will be most likely away until Friday, I am under the assumption I will not have internet, but hopefully I will. Just a heads up.

[White Castle]

Furry put scott at L-1. I'll need to check if there was anything backing it up in earlier posts since he just voted without any additional info in that post.

[White Castle]

Kaiveran hasn't posted yet today.

Why is Scott at L-1?

[White Castle]

Here's the deal.

2 scum A vs 1 scum B vs 4 town.

We are at lylo becuase a mislynch could lead to tomorrow's 2 A vs 1 b vs 1 town.

Furry - in 306 you don't list Scott in your top three, but vote hm in 307. Why?

[White Castle]

Well, I'm wrong. I got the SBs confused. Scott is at L-2.

Furry, I still want answers.

[White Castle]

Mod - please prod Kaiveran.

Since this game reopened "today", she hasn't posted. I'm not sure how you count time over nights.

She has posted in another game...

[Furry]

I think A lynch > B lynch

[dejkha]

Kaiveran has been prodded.

[White Castle]

I think A lynch > B lynch

Say we go ahead and lynch A. We go into night 1 A vs 1 B vs 4 town. We win at best, or at worst be 1 A vs 1 B vs 2 town in which case we no lynch.

If we lynch B, then we start tomorrow 2 A vs 3 town which is lylo. It requires two perfect lynches to win.

I agree that lynching A > lynching B, but I'm not drinking your Kool-Aid.

Again, there are three scum, and scott wasn't in your top three.

[Furry]

Read closer, thats my B list, not my A list.

[zwetschenwasser]

WE NEED MOAR SCOTT VOTES!

[White Castle]

WE NEED MOAR SCOTT VOTES!

How about being helpful and telling us who you think is scum other than Scott. If I remember correctly, your case is entirely based on zero's claim.

[zwetschenwasser]

And his behavior after the claim.

[White Castle]

WE NEED MOAR SCOTT VOTES!

How about being helpful and telling us who you think is scum other than Scott

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What about his behavior?

[zwetschenwasser]

I explained this already, and I'm not repeating myself again.

[White Castle]

Scott, or who else you think is scummy? There are still 3 scum.

[zwetschenwasser]

You.