Mini #764: Notre Dame Mafia, Game Over

[Kinetic]

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ac1983 is so obviously scum it hurts. I'm trying to figure out his scum buddy, I'm leaning towards Zwet at this time.

I'm pretty sure Kast is going to ask you plenty of questions ace, but here is one from me:

Why would you drop the hammer and than immediately go back to pigeon-holing me? It seems like you are impatient scum for dropping the hammer and don't want to give too much away so you're tunneling on the one person you think you're allowed to (me). I don't buy it at all.

I suppose Kast is a possibility.

The more I look over it, the more I'm pretty convinced that DGB is not scum, but I'm not positive.

I don't really have an opinion on Ace, Rishi, or Looker.

vote:ace

[zwetschenwasser]

Interesting. Why do you think I'm scum?

[AceMarksman]

I don't really have an opinion on Ace, Rishi, or Looker.

vote:ace

1) I really, REALLY hope you meant ac#### right there, not me.
2) Kinetic is fairly scummy at the moment, so
3)

Vote: kinetic

[AceMarksman]

actually, looking at ACfan's first post of the day, I'll have to

Unvote, Vote: ac####fan

.

Reasons:
1) the apoth claim
2) WIT

[zwetschenwasser]

Votecount please

[Rishi]

No plague deaths. That means that the Mafia probably didn't get their hands on a plague - because I can't imagine they wouldn't use it (and why would they NK someone who they plagued earlier?). Of course, this doesn't clear people with plague cards - we don't know who may have played an Apoth on whom, but it certainly is something interesting to look at.

To someone who is keeping a list - who had plague cards?

[Kinetic]

I don't really have an opinion on Ace, Rishi, or Looker.

vote:ace

1) I really, REALLY hope you meant ac#### right there, not me.
2) Kinetic is fairly scummy at the moment, so
3)

Vote: kinetic

lol,, I did mean ac >>

unvote,vote: acfan1983 or something like that

[zwetschenwasser]

Interesting buddying b/w Kinetic and Ace...

[ac1983fan]

Why would you drop the hammer and than immediately go back to pigeon-holing me? It seems like you are impatient scum for dropping the hammer and don't want to give too much away so you're tunneling on the one person you think you're allowed to (me). I don't buy it at all.

The day was dragging on. It wasn't going to end with a lynch on anyone but ortolan, no point in letting it go on any further when no one was pursuring any of the MUCH scummier people.

Kinetic, why am I obvscum for voting one of the scummiest people this game?

can I point out that charter, who is a CONFIRMED TOWN found kinetic scummy?

actually, looking at ACfan's first post of the day, I'll have to

Unvote, Vote: ac####fan

.

Reasons:
1) the apoth claim
2) WIT

0) It really isn't that hard to get my username right...
1) It was an aside, don't see how it is scummy
2) WIT means what exactly...

Also, it seems to me that, while Kinetic has been scummier overall, AM hasn't really tried to contribute much, and several of his posts have been very scummy. I also don't like his flipflop from voting kinetic to me based solely off of one post.

unvote, vote:AceMarksman

I am 90% sure that the remaining scum is contained within the group of AM, Kinetic, DGB, and Rishi. I've got mostly neutral reads on Zwet and Looker, although looker is the scummier of the two. Kast is still the only extremely townie player IMO.

[Rishi]

Interesting buddying b/w Kinetic and Ace...

? What do you mean? Or are you being sarcastic?

[petroleumjelly]

Day Three: Vote Count #1

2 ac1983fan (AceMarksman, Kinetic)
1 AceMarksman (ac1983fan)

With

8

alive, it takes

5

to lynch, and

3

to lynch at deadline. Deadline is May 23, 9:59 pm CDT.

Not Voting – 5 – DrippingGoofball, Kast, Looker, Rishi, zwetschenwasser

[Kinetic]

I am 90% sure that the remaining scum is contained within the group of AM, Kinetic, DGB, and Rishi. I've got mostly neutral reads on Zwet and Looker, although looker is the scummier of the two. Kast is still the only extremely townie player IMO.

Your ability to narrow is astonishing. And I don't mean that in a good way. I mean it is astonishingly bad.

[Kinetic]

Interesting buddying b/w Kinetic and Ace...

? What do you mean? Or are you being sarcastic?

It is a common scum tactic. When people are attacking your buddy you attack the accusers and try and shift focus.

It makes me more certain if ac flips scum that zwet is his partner, and more worried about his plagues.

Luckily we'll have a card draw before Zwet's plagues hit, so maybe Apoth is a very worthy first choice.

[ac1983fan]

I am 90% sure that the remaining scum is contained within the group of AM, Kinetic, DGB, and Rishi. I've got mostly neutral reads on Zwet and Looker, although looker is the scummier of the two. Kast is still the only extremely townie player IMO.

Your ability to narrow is astonishing. And I don't mean that in a good way. I mean it is astonishingly bad.

Your ability to completely ignore my questions of you and/or actually defend yourself is astonishing.

[zwetschenwasser]

Not really, I also suspect ac.

[Kinetic]

I am 90% sure that the remaining scum is contained within the group of AM, Kinetic, DGB, and Rishi. I've got mostly neutral reads on Zwet and Looker, although looker is the scummier of the two. Kast is still the only extremely townie player IMO.

Your ability to narrow is astonishing. And I don't mean that in a good way. I mean it is astonishingly bad.

Your ability to completely ignore my questions of you and/or actually defend yourself is astonishing.

What is there to defend? Where is a question?

Kinetic, why am I obvscum for voting one of the scummiest people this game?

can I point out that charter, who is a CONFIRMED TOWN found kinetic scummy?

Are these the questions? Really, is this what you're accusing me of dodging. Ha!

For your first question, you are obvscum not because you are "voting one of the scummiest people", you are obvscum because you're being opportunistic, barely adding anything to any case so you can't be held responsible, constantly shifting the blame, and not actually contributing anything except tunneling.

What makes me scummy?

Why am I summier than anyone else in the game?

Assuming I'm scum, who would my likely partners be?

You can't answer those questions because you never thought about them. You just see a wounded animal and you're pouncing.

If you do get your way and I flip town, what are you going to say? "Well Charter was town, and he thought he was scum, I was misled."

You have bullshit arguments and you're not even trying to hide it. You're just getting angry and self-righteous.

And seriously, I don't defend myself? DID YOU READ THE LAST DAY AT ALL? The entire day I spent defending myself, my actions, and my choices. So which is it? Is defending myself scummy or is not defending myself against inane and craplogic scummy, because you can't have it both ways.

[ac1983fan]

I am 90% sure that the remaining scum is contained within the group of AM, Kinetic, DGB, and Rishi. I've got mostly neutral reads on Zwet and Looker, although looker is the scummier of the two. Kast is still the only extremely townie player IMO.

Your ability to narrow is astonishing. And I don't mean that in a good way. I mean it is astonishingly bad.

Your ability to completely ignore my questions of you and/or actually defend yourself is astonishing.

What is there to defend? Where is a question?

Kinetic, why am I obvscum for voting one of the scummiest people this game?

can I point out that charter, who is a CONFIRMED TOWN found kinetic scummy?

Are these the questions? Really, is this what you're accusing me of dodging. Ha!

For your first question, you are obvscum not because you are "voting one of the scummiest people", you are obvscum because you're being opportunistic, barely adding anything to any case so you can't be held responsible, constantly shifting the blame, and not actually contributing anything except tunneling.

What makes me scummy?

Why am I summier than anyone else in the game?

Assuming I'm scum, who would my likely partners be?

You can't answer those questions because you never thought about them. You just see a wounded animal and you're pouncing.

If you do get your way and I flip town, what are you going to say? "Well Charter was town, and he thought he was scum, I was misled."

You have bullshit arguments and you're not even trying to hide it. You're just getting angry and self-righteous.

And seriously, I don't defend myself? DID YOU READ THE LAST DAY AT ALL? The entire day I spent defending myself, my actions, and my choices. So which is it? Is defending myself scummy or is not defending myself against inane and craplogic scummy, because you can't have it both ways.

You are scummy because of
A) Your tone
B) You attacked Kast D1 for supposedly ruining a cardclaim because he supposedly presented that oppurtunity to scum. When in fact, I believe, Budja, who is now a confirmed scum, said that scum would've been dumb to not consider the effects of a card claim before hand.
C) You then turn around and basically start trying to tell everybody what cards they should pick, and simultaneously give scum a safe way to claim there cards and look pro-town
D) And then you proceed to lurk somewhat, although I do believe that you were busy with RL stuff, so that is somewhat passable
E) Charter found you scummy
F) You ignore parts of my post except for the part where I list five people whom I think scum are amoung.

I'm not angry, you're the one who's angry. I don't even really care if I win or I lose this game, but I'm doing my best to win. I think you are scummy.

[Looker]

it's like coming back to an old neighborhood...

[AceMarksman]

Also, it seems to me that, while Kinetic has been scummier overall, AM hasn't really tried to contribute much, and several of his posts have been very scummy. I also don't like his flipflop from voting kinetic to me based solely off of one post.

1) Your vote is pure OMGUS
2) you think kinetic is scummier than me, yet you vote me? What? Kinetic even has a bigger wagon on him then I do. I think AC and Kinetic are the remaining scum
3) WiT means Woe is town.

[ac1983fan]

Also, it seems to me that, while Kinetic has been scummier overall, AM hasn't really tried to contribute much, and several of his posts have been very scummy. I also don't like his flipflop from voting kinetic to me based solely off of one post.

1) Your vote is pure OMGUS
2) you think kinetic is scummier than me, yet you vote me? What? Kinetic even has a bigger wagon on him then I do. I think AC and Kinetic are the remaining scum
3) WiT means Woe is town.

1) That is a baseless accusation, your recent posts just reminded me how scummy you are.
2)Read the post please. I said i think kinetic has been scummier overall, but you have had several posts which have been very scummy whereas kinetics posts have a range of scumminess. Also, you flipflopped pretty damn quickly based off of one post.
3) Err, mmmk...

[AceMarksman]

1)Baseless? What are you smoking (and I want some )? I voted you in 1078 and you voted me in 1083, your next post after mine. How is it not OMGUS?
2)Ok, what posts have given you a scum vibe? I want quotes and links.

[Kinetic]

My computer blew up. Hoping to have the issue resolved by tonight. Update asap.

[ac1983fan]

1)OMGUS = voting you only because you voted me. Clearly not what happened here.
2) here is one post where I stated that I found you scummy: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 75#1651075
Your posts are almost all one or two sentences long, with very little original content. Also you strongly pushed the ortlynch, based almost entirely off of the fact that "he self voted so he wanted to die". Lastly, somewhat of a gut feeling.

[zwetschenwasser]

ac vs. Kinetic and Ace! Let's zoom in to get a better view...

[Kast]

Hey all,

Reading to catch up but may have to wait until tonight to actually post.

I spent most of my free time catching up to a different game (sorry, but that one is a bit more interesting than this one).