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Post #43 (isolation #0) » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:44 am
Postby whoami8 »
Trotsky wrote: why so protective of sex w/ shafted's wife... ?
We always use protection. Duh.
Also, why did you vote frog dodging when when there was a perfectly good wagon on incamnito? Rabbits like wagons. Also, you studiously avoided OMGUSing yosariwen.
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Post #57 (isolation #2) » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:41 am
Postby whoami8 »
Trotsky wrote:
sex w/ shafted's wife club wrote:Also, why did you vote frog dodging when when there was a perfectly good wagon on incamnito? Rabbits like wagons. Also, you studiously avoided OMGUSing yosariwen.
i'm not just a rabbit, i'm also gone with the blastwave, dear. you can stop applying only those parts of our collective meta that fit whatever accusation you're trying to make.
and irony>OMGUS.
swswc wrote:I believe he was going for irony, maybe sarcasm.
on the one hand, this; on the other, one half of me saw jd online and the lack of posting in here.
Anyone who calls me dear, can die. I prefer other adoratios.
Also, maybe it was korts who posted while not bandwagoning. Okay. You can null that reason. But you posed a question to yosariwen. It points out an inconsistency in yosariwen's play, implying scumminess. It's so important to you that you're asking twice for an answer. But you didn't vote them? Why?
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Post #60 (isolation #3) » Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:05 pm
Postby whoami8 »
OK this game needs to move quicker, the only role that heavily benefits the the town during the night phase without risk of repurcussions is the Cop. Turning this into a nightless game is better odds on town then trading Cop investigations for either 2 scum kills, or 1 scum/1 comp vig kill.
trotsky wrote:yosariwen: care to reply to my earlier question?
Why are you still fishing for this after you yourself making a joke of the action?
Goofball, did you learn any scumtells from playing with Nuwen and Yos2?
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Post #74 (isolation #5) » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:40 pm
Postby whoami8 »
wow just had sex with the wife ironically enough. No time for a post but have to say this deep south thing is exciting. Damn shame incamn was being so obviously townie.
So Yos noticed the tracker breadcrumb. why did you point it out so blatantly?
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Post #79 (isolation #6) » Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:00 am
Postby whoami8 »
Apples and Banana wrote:The wagon on Incamnito grew way too quickly, imo. Pesco Light, especially, seemed to be voting for a comment the Mod said couldn't be backed up, due to talking about the other game.
Unvote, Vote: Pesco
Yeah that's a brilliant scum strategy. Run up a player to a premature wagon thus drawing attention to yourself and then kill said player confirming the player you were attempting to mislynch but got bored of waiting for was actually town.
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Post #92 (isolation #11) » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:10 am
Postby whoami8 »
Yosariwen wrote:
J-Scope wrote:I don't get it. What does Portishead have to do with Zmd? It is an inside joke? I want answers!
Are you that dense?
Incamn's crumbing is neutral for now, as there are multiple data roles than can be of either alignment and would benefit from early crumbs. Currently a null tell.
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Post #111 (isolation #13) » Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:39 pm
Postby whoami8 »
IllegalActsWith Alpacas wrote:Calling incamn and obv town and complaing not only shows false sympathy but also acts like a Giant "I told you so" to everyone in relation to your earlier post here:
Well i did tell you so. I'm much more subtle as scum, go read more of my games.
I don't know how to use a hydra Tajo wrote:79.
Elvis with shafted wife wrote:Yeah that's a brilliant scum strategy. Run up a player to a premature wagon thus drawing attention to yourself and then kill said player confirming the player you were attempting to mislynch but got bored of waiting for was actually town.
This is actually a good point. Although its possible that if we assume scum killed incamnito and Pesco is scum, other scumpartner could have decided the kill.
A scum partner that is a real ignoramous. So which players would fit that bill?
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Post #113 (isolation #14) » Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:02 pm
Postby whoami8 »
PoketheAlpaca wrote:
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:
IllegalActsWith Alpacas wrote:Calling incamn and obv town and complaing not only shows false sympathy but also acts like a Giant "I told you so" to everyone in relation to your earlier post here:
Well i did tell you so. I'm much more subtle as scum, go read more of my games.
I don't know how to use a hydra Tajo wrote:79.
Elvis with shafted wife wrote:Yeah that's a brilliant scum strategy. Run up a player to a premature wagon thus drawing attention to yourself and then kill said player confirming the player you were attempting to mislynch but got bored of waiting for was actually town.
This is actually a good point. Although its possible that if we assume scum killed incamnito and Pesco is scum, other scumpartner could have decided the kill.
A scum partner that is a real ignoramous. So which players would fit that bill?
So you really think we can include Pesco and all Incamnito attackers in the prob town list?
Hello Mr. strawman. How many players were actively attacking incamn? How many were bandwagoning for bandwagoning's sake?
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Post #116 (isolation #15) » Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:15 pm
Postby whoami8 »
PoketheAlpaca wrote:
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:
PoketheAlpaca wrote:
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:
IllegalActsWith Alpacas wrote:Calling incamn and obv town and complaing not only shows false sympathy but also acts like a Giant "I told you so" to everyone in relation to your earlier post here:
Well i did tell you so. I'm much more subtle as scum, go read more of my games.
I don't know how to use a hydra Tajo wrote:79.
Elvis with shafted wife wrote:Yeah that's a brilliant scum strategy. Run up a player to a premature wagon thus drawing attention to yourself and then kill said player confirming the player you were attempting to mislynch but got bored of waiting for was actually town.
This is actually a good point. Although its possible that if we assume scum killed incamnito and Pesco is scum, other scumpartner could have decided the kill.
A scum partner that is a real ignoramous. So which players would fit that bill?
So you really think we can include Pesco and all Incamnito attackers in the prob town list?
Hello Mr. strawman. How many players were actively attacking incamn? How many were bandwagoning for bandwagoning's sake?
Ok. My bad.
Do you really think we can call Pesco town?
Early pot stirrers are sticking their neck out in a quick paced game like this. I'm finding her more likely than not to be town.
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Post #140 (isolation #19) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:28 am
Postby whoami8 »
Yeah, scared. You're now trying to be active, but with very little scum hunting. That last post, only the last sentence could maybe be described as scum hunting. And even then, it's a really weak probe.
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Post #143 (isolation #20) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:38 am
Postby whoami8 »
Apples and Banana wrote:I get the same impression as Ortohoops as it pertains to Frog Dodging. In a game where activity is important, and several have talked of lynching the lurkers, FD's posts are all basically the definition of active lurking. Summarizes events, doesn't take stances where they can avoid them, and pointing out what he calls a bunch of stupid town plays.
There are others that are "actively lurking" just as much, if not more so. Why single out Frog Dodging?
A&B wrote:KMD - I'm not usually that much more than a post-a-day player, really, and I'm the only one whose posted thus far.
It's not like you didn't know what you were signing up for. Step it up.
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Post #144 (isolation #21) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:40 am
Postby whoami8 »
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:Yeah, scared. You're now trying to be active, but with very little scum hunting. That last post, only the last sentence could maybe be described as scum hunting. And even then, it's a really weak probe.
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Post #146 (isolation #22) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:02 am
Postby whoami8 »
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:
Apples and Banana wrote:I get the same impression as Ortohoops as it pertains to Frog Dodging. In a game where activity is important, and several have talked of lynching the lurkers, FD's posts are all basically the definition of active lurking. Summarizes events, doesn't take stances where they can avoid them, and pointing out what he calls a bunch of stupid town plays.
There are others that are "actively lurking" just as much, if not more so. Why single out Frog Dodging?
Also like to note that this is A&B parroting Ragining Wishbone. And I disagree that FD is actively lurking.
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Post #149 (isolation #23) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:20 am
Postby whoami8 »
Yosariwen wrote:
Frog Dodging wrote:explanation
That's exactly what you're seeing - Wishbone and company asked for an explanation and got one. Are you
really
trying to make a requested response seem scummy?
If reading comprehension is the issue, my point can be summarized as: there was no reason to assume Camn's breadcrumbing came from a town player. Power roles of both alignments have motive to crumb their action, and hitting a power role at random is more likely to hit scum than hitting any play at random.
Your argument is off. You specifically stated "investigative" power role when outing the breadcrumb. Those breakdown 2:1 in towns favor.
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Post #151 (isolation #24) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:26 am
Postby whoami8 »
Yosariwen wrote:
Frog Dodging wrote:
Why would you assume something before you have reason to assume it? I'd say that Yosariwen pointing out the breadcrumb thus signaling to the scum "HEY-O POWER ROLE HERE" is a much better reason for the kill than to frame 5 people on a bandwagon.
Why are you assuming it was a scum kill, Frog? Especally considering that there were 5 votes on the wagon, I wouldn't at all be surprised if the Incamn kill was a compulsive vig (remember, if there is a compulsive vig, that role has to kill every single action phase, every 96 hours.)
Yes great idea for the town aligned compulsive vig to kill a semi outed tracker 3 pages (?) into the game. They're playing to their A game for sure.
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Post #171 (isolation #28) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:31 am
Postby whoami8 »
I agree with Raginwishbone, we need to move faster. We have effectively no-lynched today. We need to do atleast 2 in the next action phase to make up for it.
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Post #175 (isolation #29) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:15 am
Postby whoami8 »
J-Scope wrote:
Yosariwen wrote:
J-Scope wrote:I don't get it. What does Portishead have to do with Zmd? It is an inside joke? I want answers!
Are you that dense?
Incamn's crumbing is neutral for now, as there are multiple data roles than can be of either alignment and would benefit from early crumbs. Currently a null tell.
I didn't read it as a crumb and I still don't upon rereading the post. What do you mean? He was talking about a music album causing him to vote a player, as if the player would understand the vote because of the music album.
In addition to Yoswen pointing out the breadcrumb, we have J-Scope fishing to understand it. One or both need to die faster.
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Post #189 (isolation #32) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:59 am
Postby whoami8 »
Yos wrote:Yes. NOW the town has enough infromation to know that it was, in fact, a scum kill. However, from the way you worded that post, you seemed to KNOW it was a scum kill earlier in the day, at a time when only scum could possibly have known that for a fact, which is why I asked you about it.
-Yos
Great so now both heads of your hyrda are fishing for power roles.
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Post #196 (isolation #35) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:36 am
Postby whoami8 »
Yos if you're town I really feel for you. Your hydra partner put you in a bad spot due to, what I agree with you, is a bad theory position. But you have to see it from an outside observers perspective. We can't let something like this slide. It's too glaring to just say "well it doesn't make sense as scum...look a birdie!" There's a very decent chance that scum would make that play.
I appreciate your further attempts at scum hunting, but you need to go.
And while you may be right in general about "too much knowledge", anyone in their right mind would not take incamn's death as that from a vig. It's patently ridiculous, and feels like you trying to point out a shiny object to distract us. Your A&B analysis does give me some town vibes but overall it's not enough. We're already behind schedule. We got lucky with the vig/crosskill but we can't continue to count on those types of events. A lynch needs to happen at least once every three days and you are easily the scummiest player ATM. If you're town go down with a bang and leave what info you can for us to work with.
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Post #198 (isolation #36) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:52 am
Postby whoami8 »
You argue that Nuwen did it because power roles are more likely scum, yet no vote incamn was cast and she states herself it's a nulltell. Furthermore as I've pointed out INFORMATION powerroles are NOT more likely scum, as Nuwen alluded to. I don't recall you ever adressing this point as I brought it up. Then there's the discrepency as to whether or not you discussed this ahead of time. Sorry but you just look like scum talking your way out of a bad play.
I ask you again what kind of townie points out a freaking tracker breadcrumb because it's a nulltell? There's even less motivation for that.
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Post #201 (isolation #38) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:27 am
Postby whoami8 »
Yos I'm sorry but I think you're more likely scum than not. We are already behind the curve in regards to lynching and I'm not spending more time tunneling on you than playing. Furthermore if you are town I think you could be spending your time more fruitfully (though i do realize if you're town right now your primary goal is to avoid your own mislynch).
Bottom line Nuwen needs to get her ass in here and explain herself.
Meanwhile where the hell is Hogfather? Both of his heads are much more active than the hydra.
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Post #211 (isolation #40) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:25 pm
Postby whoami8 »
Ortohoops wrote:
Sexy shaft, you need to stop feeling sorry, killing scum should make you happy, they're both very competent players. Their actions were bizarre enough for players of their standards - they've had multiple pressing cases against them in areas not even crumb-outing related. It's not like they're being killed off solely for one mistake.
The town needs to finish off this wagon and kickstart a new one soon.
I agree, my gut is just giving me second thought.
Anyway Yoswen, if you're town please scumhunt in your remaining hours.
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Post #215 (isolation #42) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:35 pm
Postby whoami8 »
Yosariwen wrote:
Ortohoops wrote:Their actions were bizarre enough for players of their standards - they've had multiple pressing cases against them in areas not even crumb-outing related
Now, that seems completly untrue to me. What valid argument was there made against me that wasn't entirely based on that one post of Nuwen's?
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Post #222 (isolation #44) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:45 pm
Postby whoami8 »
Raging Wishbone wrote:
Raging Wishbone wrote:
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:What has PokeaTaj done to make you label them town?
Tajo is being Tajo, imo... I dont Poker at all, but I cn tell the difference between each of there post. He is so methodical, calculated...he turns it on when he needs to and always provides a threw and threw analysis. He does not try to get just anyone hung, its like (no pun intnded) he is playing poker, he keeps his cards close to the table so no one can see. I have never played with him as scum, but as town...he is exactly the same.
oh and by the by, dont get me wrong; he aint obv town, I will lynch him quicker then you all can type wifom, if he gets scummy, lol.
so why did you put him in the town category? Futhermore why is J-Scope there?
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Post #242 (isolation #47) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:19 pm
Postby whoami8 »
Raging Idiot wrote:Is the rest of the scum team Yoso/nuwen and sexed?
God you suck at this game. I thought I was bad, but jesus. Why in the hell would scum super bus their remaining partner on D2? Get your head out of your ass.
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Post #249 (isolation #50) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:51 pm
Postby whoami8 »
The question of who ratted on Yos is a dead end. It looks like my other head guessed A&B because they were online. But for all we know, Yos asked Adel himself, and then pretended to wonder who was trying to get him modkilled. And I think Yos even looking for a rat is ridiculous because if it was illegal, Adel would notice anyway and modkill you. Nobody can "get you modkilled." You have to do something modkillable, and then it would be your fault, not anyone else's even if they point it out to the mod.
Most importantly:
NOBODY NEEDS TO GET YOU MODKILLED SINCE WE ARE LYNCHING YOU.
Yos is pretending there is some conspiracy to modkill him, even though, um there's clearly no need to do that. This "who is trying to get Yos modkilled OMG!!1!1!1" thing is a non issue. Yos is just trying to distract from his lynch.
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Post #254 (isolation #52) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:03 pm
Postby whoami8 »
Look, A&B posted at 5:44, and Adel posted the explanation about rule 17 at 5:56. Only other person posting around then was Yosariwen. So it is not unthinkable for anyone to assume A&B notified the mod.
But it could have been any fucking person in the game, who wasn't even posting at the time.
We will never know the truth unless someone fesses up.
And whoever did notify the mod, I would never call that "TRYING TO GET YOS MODKILLED!!!11!" Because nobody can "get a person modkilled." If you do something illegal, it's your fault.
This is a complete waste of time, and derailment of Yos's wagon.
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Post #256 (isolation #53) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:09 pm
Postby whoami8 »
Yosariwen wrote:
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote: Nobody can "get you modkilled." You have to do something modkillable, and then it would be your fault, not anyone else's even if they point it out to the mod.
Oh, absolutly. But in my experence, when someone tries to point out to the mod "Person X broke rule Y right here, see, look?" it's usually a scum trying to get a townie modkilled. And between this statement and your other head's attempt to blame apples for it, I'm starting to think it's the two of you who did it, and are now lying about it.
Why do you even think someone was hoping Adel would modkill you? Maybe they wanted to post something similar and wanted to check that it wasn't illegal? YOU DON'T KNOW THE MOTIVATION!
If I did it, I wouldn't lie about it. I'm tempted to say I did it just to stop this pointless speculation, and get back on track lynching you. But alas, I didn't do it.
Yosariwen wrote:
NOBODY NEEDS TO GET YOU MODKILLED SINCE WE ARE LYNCHING YOU.
Nope. Town almost lynched me, but I'm now starting to think we're going to lynch scum instead.
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Post #258 (isolation #54) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:16 pm
Postby whoami8 »
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:Look, A&B posted at 5:44, and Adel posted the explanation about rule 17 at 5:56. Only other person posting around then was Yosariwen. So it is not unthinkable for anyone to assume A&B notified the mod.
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Post #263 (isolation #56) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:23 pm
Postby whoami8 »
Raging Wishbone wrote:
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:Look, A&B posted at 5:44, and Adel posted the explanation about rule 17 at 5:56. Only other person posting around then was Yosariwen. So it is not unthinkable for anyone to assume A&B notified the mod.
raging wishbone wrote: I have not left here tonight wanna know who all stopped by in addition to Hoopla (well there was DGB, poker, tajo, nuwen, you, me, sensfan, hog, as well as a few others who i cant remember everyones name yet).
I have no idea who was online at the time someone asked Adel a question. All I know is who posted around then. It was A&B.
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Post #269 (isolation #57) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:44 pm
Postby whoami8 »
Raging Wishbone wrote:
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:
Raging Wishbone wrote:
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:Look, A&B posted at 5:44, and Adel posted the explanation about rule 17 at 5:56. Only other person posting around then was Yosariwen. So it is not unthinkable for anyone to assume A&B notified the mod.
raging wishbone wrote: I have not left here tonight wanna know who all stopped by in addition to Hoopla (well there was DGB, poker, tajo, nuwen, you, me, sensfan, hog, as well as a few others who i cant remember everyones name yet).
I have no idea who was online at the time someone asked Adel a question. All I know is who posted around then. It was A&B.
lol right on fair enough.... but can I ask you again don't you think it was a huge mistake to make that assumption about Apples and Banana's?
And let me take a completely different approach than I have tonight so far regarding this matter. Did you see that I wrote a snarky post to him about trying to get yoso modkilled? How many other people who don't read enough (like myself tonight) may have started a wagon on him because either you or your partner blamed him for that and then worst of all tried to defend yourself instead of saying WE are wrong, especially when it is based on a lie (I know everyone who has visited this thread tonight) You all know that he was not the only one around when you or your partner blamed A & B....
Also whoever posted Nuwens aim account was wrong to do so (if I ever want my private im accounts published, I will post them!)...although in this case after playing "war in heaven" with her when she was scum, ti s good thing... her response seemed genuine, I really think she is gonna flip town.
Dude or dudette it just sounds really scummy to me.
I agree it was counterproductive to speculate on who ratted on Yos. My other head did it. I think it was just the first thing he thought of since A&B posted most recently close to Yos's accusation. He can tell you his exact motivations when he posts next. But it just seems off the cuff type of logical assumption based on who posted recently.
But seriously, we're never going to know for sure who did it unless they confess. There's no way we can make someone tell us.
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Post #270 (isolation #58) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:51 pm
Postby whoami8 »
Yos, I need more info about this:
Yosariwen wrote:She had come to the conclusion, before the game started actually, that the right move in this kind of game is to lynch anyone who claims a role or who even hints at a role, becuase a high percentage of people who have roles are scum, and there's of course also a chance that somone who claims or hints at a role is lying about it and also scum. She apparently discussed this with Adel some time ago. So she was not at all reluctent to out someone who seemed to be breadcrumbing a role right from the very start of a game, when there's really no good reason for a pro-town tracker to do so.
I don't understand how anyone could think this is a lynchng claimed power roles is a pro-town strategy.
I don't think any of the working premises are true... like I don't think "a high percentage of people who have [power] roles are scum"
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Post #273 (isolation #59) » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:59 pm
Postby whoami8 »
Raging Wishbone wrote:
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:
Ortohoops wrote:
Sexy shaft, you need to stop feeling sorry, killing scum should make you happy, they're both very competent players. Their actions were bizarre enough for players of their standards - they've had multiple pressing cases against them in areas not even crumb-outing related. It's not like they're being killed off solely for one mistake.