Lynch All Lurkers Mafia! GAME OVER

[ortolan]

So...your comment didn't really have any relevance then?

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't even care if this stretched into a scum-tell (rather oddly I might add). I always said his claim was scummy. It's his fault for making a claim at all on day one in the absence of sufficient pressure, and secondly saying that a claim which is inherently improvable on day one (and now day two), could confirm him. Note that here you assume I am scum and not he, because by massaging in the suggestion I'm a roleblocker you can now explain any subsequent nights where poptajo doesn't report a result, until I die.

I wholeheartedly reject this theory. I can just imagine the scum, thinking that potajo is doc-protected, hoping to get him lynched by roleblocking him every night. Kinda like what you're doing.

[Xylthixlm]

Ortolan, tell me in your words, what would you have done in my situation? Claim at L-1?

You think I am scum because I cant prove my claim when the only way I could have proven my claim is if if I hadnt fully claimed.

And, what is that antitown behaviour you are accusing me of? Softclaiming with no pressure?

I sure as heck wouldn't have claimed "confirmable", nor claimed before L-2. I might have claimed "will claim first thing tomorrow" then.

[DrippingGoofball]

I know two mods who say "you have been blocked", me and Phate.

I know one that doesn't, myself, in fact.

[ortolan]

I can just imagine poptajo anticipating that and making that claim in the first place. It's entirely down to WIFOM. He still has to explain why he took obviously anti-town actions if he is town.

[ortolan]

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[Xylthixlm]

So...your comment didn't really have any relevance then?

If I'm right it gives me bragging rights after the game.

[populartajo]

I can just imagine poptajo anticipating that and making that claim in the first place. It's entirely down to WIFOM. He still has to explain why he took obviously anti-town actions if he is town.

Im still waiting the part where you explain these antitown actions....

[ortolan]

I don't need to explain your anti-town actions, you do

[DrippingGoofball]

Not proof, it's still entirely consistent with you being scum though.

Absolutely not. You are being obtuse, in that special way that scum has to be obtuse and pretend to not see the obvious.

And stop it with the "scummy because it was a day 1 claim." As a player who often bears the grunt of roflcopter's stubborn and dogged accusations, I can see why potajo would want to get the "monkey off his back" so to speak. One of the most irritating aspect of having roflcopter lock on you is that it becomes nearly impossible to hunt scum when everything you say gets a "you're scum, nener-nener-nener," with no explanation, and no chance of him ever changing his mind.

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't need to explain your anti-town actions, you do

You need to DIE.

[Xylthixlm]

I don't even care if this stretched into a scum-tell (rather oddly I might add). I always said his claim was scummy. It's his fault for making a claim at all on day one in the absence of sufficient pressure, and secondly saying that a claim which is inherently improvable on day one (and now day two), could confirm him. Note that here you assume I am scum and not he, because by massaging in the suggestion I'm a roleblocker you can now explain any subsequent nights where poptajo doesn't report a result, until I die.

I wholeheartedly reject this theory. I can just imagine the scum, thinking that potajo is doc-protected, hoping to get him lynched by roleblocking him every night. Kinda like what you're doing.

DGB: I think I explained the rightcanswer to "block or kill" in ms3 scum qt. Remember? (y/n)

[DrippingGoofball]

I can just imagine poptajo anticipating that and making that claim in the first place. It's entirely down to WIFOM. He still has to explain why he took obviously anti-town actions if he is town.

There is NOTHING "obviously anti-town."

The only in-your-face anti-town behavior comes from YOU.

If it's down to WIFOM, as you say, why are you stubbornly trying to take down a power role?

It's not like he's been counterclaimed.

Oh wait.

I think ortolan is cryptocounterclaiming.

[ortolan]

I can see why potajo would want to get the "monkey off his back" so to speak.

But he didn't at all, which is the point. If he is town he has guaranteed he is going to look very, very scummy up until he dies.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB: I think I explained the rightcanswer to "block or kill" in ms3 scum qt. Remember? (y/n)

no.

But if they tried a kill, and the kill failed, that would confirm tajo. And a tracker is a very powerful role. A confirmed tracker that gets protected day after day? That's a nightmare for the scum.

[populartajo]

Not proof, it's still entirely consistent with you being scum though.

Scum text-book fake-claim: Claim day 1, then claim to consistently be role-blocked for the rest of the game.

Town claim: When about to be strung up, claim power-role to avoid being strung up today, and usually be deferred to the night's night-kill.

What about "Town claim: When not about to be strung up, soft claim power-role to avoid a weak wagon" I never thought my softclaim would be considered scummy to the point of people asking for a full claim.

This also happened in Mind Screw and the RR game where I softclaimed my role with variable results and I also added the bit of information that I could be confirmed. Scum so panick when this happens and I bet this is a reason why my wagon didnt end with my death. I was town in both games.

1) Why did you claim on day one?

2) Why did you target MafiaSSK?

3) Why did you only vote me when prompted repeatedly?

1) Town would lost a PR if not.

2) I decided SSK after a reread. Everyone can disagree with me but a big part of the town think he is indeed a town mason, even though masons are not confirmed and Steph is prob town. How many people thought he was scum besides me and Zorblag?

3) What? You mean why I voted you after evaluating your answers?

Now, answer this : why the hell did you vote me before it was established that I was roleblocked? Why are you pushing that only scum can be roleblocked and left alive specially when Im so lynchable?

[Xylthixlm]

I can just imagine poptajo anticipating that and making that claim in the first place. It's entirely down to WIFOM. He still has to explain why he took obviously anti-town actions if he is town.

There is NOTHING "obviously anti-town."

The only in-your-face anti-town behavior comes from YOU.

If it's down to WIFOM, as you say, why are you stubbornly trying to take down a power role?

It's not like he's been counterclaimed.

Oh wait.

I think ortolan is cryptocounterclaiming.

Fish, fish.

[DrippingGoofball]

I can see why potajo would want to get the "monkey off his back" so to speak.

But he didn't at all, which is the point. If he is town he has guaranteed he is going to look very, very scummy up until he dies.

Not in the least. Only you and your buddies find this "scummy." It is not, absolutely not, not in the least.

Now stop it with your calling tajo scummy, scumbag.

It's not working.

Your desperate attempts are EPIC FAIL. And very transparent.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think ortolan is cryptocounterclaiming.

Fish, fish.

Like I believe he is, for a second.[/sarcasm] Ortolan is nothing but scum.

[populartajo]

I don't need to explain your anti-town actions, you do

What?
I think its pretty obvius I DONT know what antitown actions you are talking about.

[ortolan]

If it's down to WIFOM, as you say, why are you stubbornly trying to take down a power role?

Timing of claim suspect ergo alternative hypothesis that he is in fact scum more likely + if he is town then he's guaranteed useless until scum role-blocker is killed (which assuming evidence for one-killing faction, would only happen when scum role-blocker is lynched, in which case he would be killed following night anyhow), meaning his power-role has no value anyhow.

Get it guys, his power-role is actually confirmed

useless

[DrippingGoofball]

How many people thought he was scum besides me and Zorblag?

Add me to this list.

[DrippingGoofball]

If it's down to WIFOM, as you say, why are you stubbornly trying to take down a power role?

Timing of claim suspect ergo alternative hypothesis that he is in fact scum more likely + if he is town then he's guaranteed useless until scum role-blocker is killed (which assuming evidence for one-killing faction, would only happen when scum role-blocker is lynched, in which case he would be killed following night anyhow), meaning his power-role has no value anyhow.

Get it guys, his power-role is actually confirmed

useless

a-HA!

Caught you, scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

super-mega-confirm-lock-on-vote: ortolan

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't need to explain your anti-town actions, you do

What?
I think its pretty obvius I DONT know what antitown actions you are talking about.

Look, tajo. Ortolan is scum. It's not like you need to convince

him

. You need to concentrate on convincing the townies, not the scumbags engineering your lynch.