Lynch All Lurkers Mafia! GAME OVER

[roflcopter]

tajo, tracking mafiassk is beyond silly, so claiming to have tried to track him looks bad

even if ssk is scum, the scum are not going to send a mafia daymason who was under intense suspicion to perform a kill

[q21]

I believe the day finished two or so hours before antihero was able to earn any lurker-points.

vote: populartajo

waiting for results also

Although ortolan has taken a shot at explaining this, his explanation doesn't really do it for me. It does nothing to dispel the feeling I got on reading it, that feeling would be that ortolan already knew what the claim would be.

However, I'm not convinced of potajo's towniness either. Bussing is a possibility that explains both feelings, but it doesn't make much sense given the day one scum lynch.

I will watch a few more of their post today, but - short of a scumclaim or something - I will be voting one of these two.

Also, Elvis comes out of her recent interaction with potajo looking very townie.

[roflcopter]

Also, Elvis comes out of her recent interaction with potajo looking very townie.

elvis was already obviously town

[SpyreX]

I just am posting to make it obvious I'm not lurking as a replacement.

I will, in fact, have a real post later.

[elvis_knits]

Has Ortolan ever said he finds Xyl scummy, because this was weird:

Current scumteam shotgun: image, Antihero, ortolan.

Explain, scum.

Also because ortolan goes on to explain we should lynch dgb, tajo, and mafiassk, with no further mention of Xyl.

[elvis_knits]

tajo, tracking mafiassk is beyond silly, so claiming to have tried to track him looks bad

even if ssk is scum, the scum are not going to send a mafia daymason who was under intense suspicion to perform a kill

I agree with this.

[populartajo]

tajo, tracking mafiassk is beyond silly, so claiming to have tried to track him looks bad

even if ssk is scum, the scum are not going to send a mafia daymason who was under intense suspicion to perform a kill

I agree with this.

I disagree.

Unvote vote : ortolan.

I hate the DGB wagon, I think ortolan planned my lynch today and Ill explain when I have the time. Tonight.

[Ether]

4 DrippingGoofball (elvis_knits, Stephoscope, Empking, roflcopter)
1 Antihero (image)
1 ortolan (populartajo)
1 populartajo (ortolan)

8 Unvote (Antihero, BrianMcQueso, DrippingGoofball, MafiaSSK, q21, SpyreX, Xtoxm, Xylthixlm)

15 alive; 8 to lynch.

[Xylthixlm]

vote: DrippingGoofball

This wagon is too awesome to not be on.

[populartajo]

Xyl, do you remember Seraphim in WIH2?

[Xylthixlm]

Xyl, do you remember Seraphim in WIH2?

No, but I can go look...

[populartajo]

No need to. Only thing I want you to know is that going crazy against attackers that are prob town is a towntell coming from a manipulative girl like DGB.

[Xylthixlm]

Games I've been in where DGB was scum: Minivitational 10, Mind Screw Mafia 3, War In Heaven II
Games I've been in where DGB was town: Medieval Mafia

For some reason DGB's play here is giving me a slight scum vibe. I shouldn't be considered accurate though since she had me completely fooled in WIH2.

[SpyreX]

God I should have read up on this game BEFORE it started. Good lord.

i am tired of everyone using nothing but meta to analyze players in a game

You sir, bring me to tears. Happy, happy tears. Much different than the other tears.

See, I forgot something. Something important. There needs to be a disclaimer for all "Hey do you want to replace in" that also reads "THIS GAME IS A GIANT CLUSTERFUCK."

Yea, by nature there's going to be differences in who's scum and who isn't - but good lord that doesn't excuse the 48 pages of "U SUK NO U" I've been reading.

Rofl - Town
DGB - Probably Town (I don't like the repeated "I'm soo good at this game" business and I really dont like how hard she's trying to stuff rofl into a bussing-power scum move considering everything else, but)
GET THAT - FROM AN OUTSIDER BOTH OF YOU READ AS TOWN THAT ARE SLAPPING THE HELL OUT OF EACH OTHER AND LETTING SCUM SLIDE.
Elvis - Town
Steph - Town (not just the claim, but town)
Xyl - Probably Town

Now, I'm not going to deal with neutrals right now. Instead, I'm going to at the fact some of this has been allowed to slide - in no small part due to the great slapfights and /feelings.

Xtoxm - Scum. Seriously. This is where my vote is going. You'll get my case later.
Brian McQueso - Scum. He's next. Seriously "Pardon my ignorance, but I'm totally confused by this zwet-wagon." Really? REALLY?
Tajo - Definitely leaning scum. I really, really don't like not just coming out and saying "I was roleblocked". That and the bipolar shift in posting between under scrutiny and not. But, thats for later.

Vote: Xtoxm

This needs to happen.

[Xylthixlm]

SpyreX is town

[MafiaSSK]

SpyreX is town

QFT. I have serious townvibes from that post

[Stephoscope]

It's weird how SpyreX thinks DGB is probably town, whereas I (with thanks to roflcopter) think she's in cahoots with the rest of who she's identified as scum. I agree SpyreX seems town, and he's suspecting some of the same folks I am, so I'll do a re-read.

For the record, I would have no problem voting for Xtoxm today either, though it's just seemed to me that DGB should go first...but I'll think about that some more.

(is there an off chance that SpyreX is scum, Xtoxm is town, and he's trying to get us to vote the townie of the bunch so that afterwards we'll focus elsewhere? I'm not accusing him of anything now, it'll just be something to look out for upon a re-read.)

[SpyreX]

Why is that weird?

Why is suspecting the same people as you make me more town than not?

[ortolan]

ortolan: Why were you voting Antihero yesterday?

A policy lynch is undesirable, but necessary

Vote: Antihero

in anticipation

also to reset my lurk-o-meter

It was in anticipation of him getting over the lurker-threshold. I didn't expect Malyss to get lynched so quickly (in part because of antihero's lurking I believe, thus people felt it desirable to end the day a bit quicker to prevent him getting over the 72-hour mark).

I would otherwise have greatly favoured a MafiaSSK lynch at the time. Now either tajo or him are good targets.

Although ortolan has taken a shot at explaining this, his explanation doesn't really do it for me. It does nothing to dispel the feeling I got on reading it, that feeling would be that ortolan already knew what the claim would be.

I don't even care if this stretched into a scum-tell (rather oddly I might add). I always said his claim was scummy. It's his fault for making a claim at all on day one in the absence of sufficient pressure, and secondly saying that a claim which is inherently improvable on day one (and now day two), could confirm him. Note that here you assume I am scum and not he, because by massaging in the suggestion I'm a roleblocker you can now explain any subsequent nights where poptajo doesn't report a result, until I die.

However, I'm not convinced of potajo's towniness either. Bussing is a possibility that explains both feelings, but it doesn't make much sense given the day one scum lynch.

Having your cake and eating it too. "poptajo might be scum, he might not, but either way ortolan is scum".

Has Ortolan ever said he finds Xyl scummy, because this was weird:

Current scumteam shotgun: image, Antihero, ortolan.

Explain, scum.

Also because ortolan goes on to explain we should lynch dgb, tajo, and mafiassk, with no further mention of Xyl.

Saying I am scummy without

any

previous mention whatsoever or explanation in that post is likely to elicit this sort of reaction. It's certainly no worse than his baseless comment to begin with. I still have no reason for wanting him lynched because all he's done is mention my name on a suspicions list. I would like an explanation, as asked previously, however.

I hate the DGB wagon, I think ortolan planned my lynch today and Ill explain when I have the time. Tonight.

Perhaps you'll explain why you thought, as town, your role-claim was a good move to begin with in the process.

[DrippingGoofball]

It doesn't matter what Steph thinks. We're not policy-lynching Stephoscope, though he richly deserves it, but his borrowed opinions are completely devoid of any value and no one is paying attention, nor asking him questions. It's not like we'll get further insight into his alignment, or any sort of insight into the game in general. He's just a nuisance townie, we all know this, and we're letting him live. We're probably going to have to rely on his judgment in endgame, since the scum will not nightkill him, ever. He'll be the one having to decide which of the last two other living players is scum, and which is town. I hope he does better then, than now.

[ortolan]

oh and populartajo still hasn't explained how he "knows" he was role-blocked. In people's experience, how many mods say "you were role-blocked" as opposed to "you got no result" or something similar? There are other conceivable role interactions which could cause no result, after all.

[populartajo]

oh and populartajo still hasn't explained how he "knows" he was role-blocked. In people's experience, how many mods say "you were role-blocked" as opposed to "you got no result" or something similar? There are other conceivable role interactions which could cause no result, after all.

Yos PMed back with "no result".

The most logical reaction is to think that I was roleblocked and Im 99% sure this is what happened here.

You are using this as a proof of my scum status?

[populartajo]

Ortolan, tell me in your words, what would you have done in my situation? Claim at L-1?

You think I am scum because I cant prove my claim when the only way I could have proven my claim is if if I hadnt fully claimed.

And, what is that antitown behaviour you are accusing me of? Softclaiming with no pressure?

[ortolan]

Not proof, it's still entirely consistent with you being scum though.

Scum text-book fake-claim: Claim day 1, then claim to consistently be role-blocked for the rest of the game.

Town claim: When about to be strung up, claim power-role to avoid being strung up today, and usually be deferred to the night's night-kill.

1) Why did you claim on day one?

2) Why did you target MafiaSSK?

3) Why did you only vote me when prompted repeatedly?

[Xylthixlm]

I know two mods who say "you have been blocked", me and Phate.

Ortolan: scumteam shotgun is mostly gut. If I wanted to make an actual case I'd make a case.