Mini 737 - Hack Poetry Mafia (Game Over)

[TonyMontana]

Tick-Tock
Goes the clock
Confused, the town, with a dead doc
Spread their support around the dead
But time was tight, and blood must shed

Cops and docs were left alone
They'd rather lynch someone unknown
So RedCoyote was attacked
And will no longer do a track

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RedCoyote |

Tracker

| Lynched Day 3

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It is now night 3. Choices in ASAP, no later than sunday

[TonyMontana]

As sunrise sets, you're in day 4
Someone is missing, but who
You mourned last day, but now way more
Cause someone is dead, but not you

Last day you lost a doc
so how can that be topped
I'm sure the whole town's shocked
To find a shot-up cop

Lynx The Antithesis |

Cop

| Killed Night 3

It is now Day 4

With 7 people alive, it takes 4 to lynch

Deadline is Sunday, May 10th

[sekinj]

And I was blocked. So we have nothing new on the cops. I tried to look at ice.

Don - did yu get anything?
Spring - who did you protect?

[don_johnson]

yes. yes i did.

ooc: sorry about the deadline. i overslept.

[springlullaby]

I targetted sekinj.

So I may be in fact a roleblocker or jailkeeper.

[springlullaby]

Don, tell me you watched Lynx.

[Rhinox]

This game is meant to be screwing with us, I think.

Top 3 suspects in no particular order: Don, ice, and spolium.

I wish I could say "yay I'm confirmed now", but i realize that sanities might not be revealed, and there still could be the threat of a godfather.

Although I still think don is lying scum, my suspicion has actually dropped a small bit, due to the fact that with all the power roles, I think we're meant to get paranoid/distracted and lynch them off, rather than searching for scum. I am interested to hear what don claims his results are.

I really wish we had RC's results. Maybe we should comb through his posts looking for crumbs to see who he targetted and if he got any interesting results?

I have a feeling this is going to be a long, rough day...

[Rhinox]

Also want to add that upon doing some rereads during the night, I'm not too suspicious of goat, and I'm more suspicious of sekinj than I was yesterday.

[don_johnson]

Don, tell me you watched Lynx.

why on earth would i have watched lynx?

it should be pretty obvious that RC tracked me at some point.

i watched springlullaby.

[Rhinox]

it should be pretty obvious that RC tracked me at some point.

How so?

[don_johnson]

it should be pretty obvious that RC tracked me at some point.

How so?

why do you think he was so persistent in his support of my claim? i could be wrong, but it occured to me as soon as i saw how he flipped. i haven't seen any breadcrumbs, however, i also haven't reread him.

[Ice9]

So don, did you get any results?

[Lynx The Antithesis]

Damn...

[don_johnson]

yes ice. i saw you. only you.

[Ice9]

Well good, that confirms you are in fact a watcher.

If it wasn't completely obvious when RC called me out on it, I'm also a watcher. And its almost certainly massclaim time.

don - Watcher
goat - ????
Ice - Watcher
Rhinox - ????
sekinj - Cop
Spolium - Vanilla
spring - Doc (Unknowing Jailkeeper?)

Night three I watched spring, and saw don visit her. Night two fhq watched goatrevolt and saw Jebus visit him. Night one whoever was supposed to be in this player slot was missing in action and no watch was submitted.

I have some ideas, but we need to fill in those two blanks before we continue.

[springlullaby]

it should be pretty obvious that RC tracked me at some point.

How so?

why do you think he was so persistent in his support of my claim? i could be wrong, but it occured to me as soon as i saw how he flipped. i haven't seen any breadcrumbs, however, i also haven't reread him.

I would say that is the case, there is one post in particular in which he use the word 'tracking' in conjunction with his support to don.

And I think his N1 watch was plonky/magisterain, the same crumb exists somewhere.

I'm too lazy to dig it up now.

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Yes it's claim time I believe.

Thoughts afterward.

[sekinj]

agree about the mass claim. we may have been able to avoid the rc lynch if we had done that yesterday.

[springlullaby]

agree about the mass claim. we may have been able to avoid the rc lynch if we had done that yesterday.

This is scummy as hell.

[Goatrevolt]

And I was blocked. So we have nothing new on the cops. I tried to look at ice.

That would mean Spring is probably a jailkeeper. That adds another possible reason for the lack of kill night 1. Spolium tried to make the kill and was blocked.

I targetted sekinj.

So I may be in fact a roleblocker or jailkeeper.

Rationale? Was post 1124 an intentional lie or did you change your mind over night?

Although I still think don is lying scum, my suspicion has actually dropped a small bit, due to the fact that with all the power roles, I think we're meant to get paranoid/distracted and lynch them off, rather than searching for scum. I am interested to hear what don claims his results are.

I really wish we had RC's results. Maybe we should comb through his posts looking for crumbs to see who he targetted and if he got any interesting results?

Here's 1 result:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I believe don's claim. I think don is the Watcher and his reports have made sense to me thus far. I've been

tracking

his posts pretty well and everything he's said has led me to pretty much do a 180 from my position on him earlier.

I found the other result, but I want to mass claim first.

Well good, that confirms you are in fact a watcher.

If it wasn't completely obvious when RC called me out on it, I'm also a watcher. And its almost certainly massclaim time.

don - Watcher
goat - ????
Ice - Watcher
Rhinox - ????
sekinj - Cop
Spolium - Vanilla
spring - Doc (Unknowing Jailkeeper?)

Night three I watched spring, and saw don visit her. Night two fhq watched goatrevolt and saw Jebus visit him. Night one whoever was supposed to be in this player slot was missing in action and no watch was submitted.

I have some ideas, but we need to fill in those two blanks before we continue.

Wow. I have some ideas myself, but I'd also like to see it all out first.

I missed the interaction between Ice and RC, but both Ice and Don are able to cross-confirm each other (in addition to RC confirming Don). So, both check out as legit watchers.

Spolium: Were you informed at all about being roleblocked night 1 or 2?

I'm vanilla. Rhinox, you're up.

[Spolium]

Is it normal for someone to be told they're a doc but actually be a jailkeeper?

That would mean Spring is probably a jailkeeper. That adds another possible reason for the lack of kill night 1. Spolium tried to make the kill and was blocked.

Question for you: if I was scum attempting a NK on N1, what reason would I have to think I was being roleblocked, as opposed to the target being protected?

Spolium: Were you informed at all about being roleblocked night 1 or 2?

No.

[Rhinox]

I agree that its looking bad for spolium at the moment. I also want to point out that don and ice can be scum working together here... however, that could just be my paranoia because its hard to argue with the crumb goat found.

I

was

a vanilla townie, or so I thought. However, when I checked the thread I had a PM from the mod that stated I was activated in my secret role as a

deputy

due to lynx's death. So, good news is I have lynx's results: Lynx investigated Goat last night, and an innocent result was returned. Coupled with goat's last post, I am believing that goat is in fact innocent, although GF isn't technically out of the question.

Thats also why I posted that I was more suspicious of sekinj - I was skeptical of the presence of 2 cops and a deputy. Although, 2 cops, a deputy, 2 docs, 2 watchers and a tracker doesn't make any sense either in a mini, with only 1 townie killed, another 2 claimed, and a mafia RB killed.

Spolium does bring up a good point though...

Is it normal for someone to be told they're a doc but actually be a jailkeeper?

However, we still have A) The N1 no kill, and B) why would scum-spring CC a scum doc fakeclaim? Only thing is if it was all just a big gambit - 1 scum claims doc, the other CC's, when 1 of them gets lynched, the other looks confirmed. Then send in a no-kill, which makes us think the real doc (jebus) preveneted the kill attempt, which essentially "confirms" spring. Then, jebus' death further confirms jebus' role/results, and we start PR speculating, which the other scum play on to claim other power roles.

So... What do we know...

100% confirmed roles:
Doctor (Jebus)
Cop (lynx)
Tracker (RC)
Townie (fhqwhgads)

Mafia RB (Budja)

100% confirmed to me:
Deputy (cop) (Rhinox)

Claimed Roles:
Townie x2 (Spolium, Goat)
Watcher x2 (Don, ice)
Cop (sekinj)
Doc (SL)

Claimed Results:
Lynx/Rhinox Cop:
N1-Jebus innocent
N2-Rhinox innocent
N3-Goat innocent

Sekinj Cop:
N1-No action submitted
N2-Lynx innocent
N3-Blocked

Spring Doc:
N1-Protected Spolium
N2-Protected Spolium
N3-Protected Sekinj

Jebus Doc:
N1-Protected Spring
N2-Killed, (targeted goat)

Don Watch:
N1-RC,

saw nothing

N2-Spring,

saw himself

N3-Spring, saw ice target spring

ice watch:
N1-no action submitted
N2-watched goat, saw jebus target goat
N3-Spring, saw don target spring

RC track:
crumb found that RC probably tracked Don

in the same post as the other crumb:

Unlike some others, I didn't find that whole DO "let's lynch a Doctor claim" thing to be scummy. Like I said at the time, seemed more newbish than scummy to me. Rhinox may be a little overly concerned with defense and not enough with offense, but that really isn't enough to put him over the edge. I've played with Rhinox before, and (don't want to talk about it too much because it's an ongoing game) I think I have a better feel for reading Rhinox. Like, you can't really see it here, but I can

track

the way he was pressuring people yesterday to explaining why DO was scummy other than because of that one comment I mentioned. You can argue it might seem a little too defensive, but to me that shows he's interested in getting other player's opinions.

So I guess RC must have tracked me/DO at some point and got no result. That might explain why I was feeling that RC was buddying up to me hard.

Also found this. Either RC is really good, or this gave ice the idea to fake claim watcher:

There are also a lot of paired roles going on here - dead doc and claimed doc, two claimed cops. Could be a pattern, could just be coincidental fake claim(s).

Hinting at an unclaimed Watcher, Ice?

OK, so I still have to read RC some more, but this is all the known/claimed information. Logic puzzle time... which pieces don't fit?

I noticed a discrepincy in Don's reported results - when he reported that he watched RC, he said he saw nothing. However, after N2, he said he saw himself target spring:

role claim: town watcher
night 1 target: Red Coyote
results: confusing

i misinterpreted my ability. i thought its properties were more akin to the role "tracker" and have been back and forth with the mod as to my results.

My first return PM stated that RC was home alone all night.

when asked to clarify i got the response that as watcher i only see who targets my target and am given no information as to alignment. however, based on my continuing conversation i am leaning towards RC being town despite his entirely crap argument. has anyone here been watcher before? mods answers were puzzling to me and i have been wrestling with the results.

target: spring lullaby.

noone targeted springlullaby but me.

So... slip?

I've rambled long enough for now I think...

[don_johnson]

So... slip?

more like ^^^ reach. i didn't say i "saw" myself. okay there, ponch?

more later.

[Rhinox]

Sekinj, multiple choice quiz for you:

Since I'm a cop now, I had lynx results reported to me. Last night I got results about goat that said either:

A) Not Guilty
B) Innocent
C) Town Alligned
D) Not Scum Alligned
E) None of the above

Which choice above matches the result you got about lynx N2 from your investigation?

[springlullaby]

And I was blocked. So we have nothing new on the cops. I tried to look at ice.

That would mean Spring is probably a jailkeeper. That adds another possible reason for the lack of kill night 1. Spolium tried to make the kill and was blocked.

This doesn't add up, it's either a slip revealing that you know Spolium attempted to NK N1 or just a crappy argument: I targetted Spolium N2 and there was a kill.

If it is a crappy argument, it is also scummy because of its crappiness.

I targetted sekinj.

So I may be in fact a roleblocker or jailkeeper.

Rationale? Was post 1124 an intentional lie or did you change your mind over night?

The rationale behind my protecting sekinj is that I suspected her of being scum.

My 1124 was intentionally misleading.

[sekinj]

Rhin - B) Innocent


spring - How many scum do we have remaining? We could have 2 scum left. Spoilum sent in the kill N1 and was blocked, and the second night scum2 sent in the kill and was successful.