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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:01 pm

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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:05 pm

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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:33 am

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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:55 am

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xtoxm, you are a moron. If the town loses this because of your recent lack of xylbot experience, I will be pissed off. Since Xylbot was upgraded last year, players
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Anyway, not much to say here. I suggest you think this through correctly Tar, because I don't want to lose this game by xtoxm's lack of experience. Aside of that, How do you even consider the odds of me bussing a scummate if there are only 3 scum in total in the game.

Tar, I'm willing to answer all your questions if you still doubt about emp being scum.

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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:45 am

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What makes you think Tar is town?

I'm stumped because it appears that we're all town.

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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:48 pm

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I have a pretty defined set of thoughts right now, but I DON'T plan on revealing them just yet.

I intend to start asking a lot of questions when I have time later tonight.
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:05 pm

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1: If I wasn't confirmed town before, I am now - I didn't cast a hammer vote.

2: I'll PBPA both of you in the near future (preferably after you've made some salient points about each other that I can analyse). I WILL be looking for a rebuttal from each of you.

3: Observe the bolded text in the FAQ post in the first page.
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KScope, you need to explain the bolded section. NOW.

4: Empking, please make a case on KScope. Doesn't need to be a full case, just the things that you think make him more likely to be scum than you. (If you're town, you now KNOW he has to be scum, so act accordingly.)

5) KScope, please make a case on Empking. Doesn't need to be a full case, just the things that you think make him more likely to be scum than you. (If you're town, you now KNOW he has to be scum, so act accordingly.)
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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:59 pm

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Cheerleader Tar. It remains on one random target. That's the only logical explanation.

The reason why empking is scum is obvious. There is no one else left that can be. Empking has played a laid back game, and jumped from wagon to wagon to proceed through the game. About 3/4 of his game posts are votes with little to no explanation to it. He didn't do any scumhunting at all, because he didn't need to do so. The only thing that got him so far is a claim that sounded
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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:28 am

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K-Scope is scum because:

After Tubby was lynched he had to get Tubby lynched. Before Tubby was lynched he didn't really care.
He bandwagoned a lot.
He said he hadn't played for two years but is now ating like he had.
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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:05 am

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1. I explained that
2. Hypocrit
3. I've started playing again, for obvious reasons
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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:15 pm

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Okay, let's make this clear first. I'm confirmed, and it's endgame - THE time of game where I am at my best. This is MY time now. And I've been looking things over. I think I've got a good handle on the situation, but I'm still double-checking things, and until I'm done double-checking I think I'll hold my cards close to the chest.

Another question for both of you:

In the hypothetical situation that you were the last Mafioso and choosing which player to kill last night (N7), who would you have killed, and why?
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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:22 pm

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xtoxm. Because he would go after me, regardless. So I guess empking made a good choice there.
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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:56 pm

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*is not saying anything until Empking answers*
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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:57 am

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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:38 am

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1. I agree. I lynched scum. You?
2. I agree. I lynched scum. You?
3. Well, just recently. I missed Multichosen :)
4. Yes I can

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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:54 am

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VERY interesting.

The reason I asked is because I was actually quite surprised to find myself alive today. I've been assuming Empking is scum for some time, and Empking NEEDED to kill me last night if he was scum.

KScope admits the correct reasoning why he would probably kill Xtoxm last night if he were scum - because given Xtoxm's play at end of yesterday it would be his only chance at winning the game. There's a second reason he doesn't mention, however - I've been suspicious of Empking since very early in the game, even going so far as to PBPA him at least once. The logical implication to Scope-scum is that I would likely hammer Empking for the scum win, and quickly.

Empking, by way of contrast, recognizes the correct play but does NOT appear to recognize either of the two reasons why it would be somewhat better play to kill me - namely, I've been suspicious of him since very early while Xtoxm was clearly very suspicious of KScope (it's pretty much the EXACT inverse of Xtoxm's situation). If Empking is scum, why not take the easy road and kill me for the scum win?

HOWEVER, Empking doesn't seem to recognize this reasoning. More to the point, I don't like his reasoning here at all... kill me as I'm the better player? What exactly gives you the idea that I'm a better player than Xtoxm, Empking? We're not exactly in an autowin position here due to outstanding doubts on KScope's claim, and have proven over time to be a rather bad scumhunter when I can't get a read with setup analysis.
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:12 pm

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Well, Emp might not have killed you in case you were a continues hider. You've been quite vague about your role so far.

Since you apparantly don't have questions anymore, my final statement on why emp is scum:
You've suspected me on my role interaction. Emp is suspected by scummy play. We've totally discarded his role so far, which should've revealed popped up somewhere over the last eigth days, but didn't.

I hope you make the right decision, Tar. Good luck Emp.
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:14 pm

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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:14 am

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Well, it's obvious you would say that now.
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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:37 am

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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:28 am

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Empking wrote:Due to it being the truth?
I don't know your reasons for killing xtoxm over Tar or me, but I guess you can eleborate that post-game.
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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:47 pm

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Point 1: There is a plausible scenario in which KScope can be scum (if Empking is Mafia Roleblocker that can kill and block at the same time and killed Armlx N4, everything falls into place)
Point 2: Empking has been in IIoA mode the entire game. IIoA happens to be the one Standard Tell I find reliable (case in point: Vir4030 in this very game).
Point 3: Looking over Empking's past games, his play here is VERY similar to Empking's Alt games where he's scum and somewhat divergent from Empking's Alt games where he's town (VERY divergent from Empking games where he's town, but he's more verbose as Empking even when he's scum).
Point 4: Empking voted for Vir for a LOT of the game but never followed up until other players put Vir4030 under heavy pressure - MAJOR distancing tell.
Point 5: For KScope to be scum would require one hell of a bus D2 from a player who I haven't seen heavy bussing from in my rereads.

Sorry Empking, but your play (which is strongly against you) outweighs the game state (which is somewhat in your favor).

!vote Empking's Alt


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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:35 pm

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cult: Terrorist Mastermind;
"You win when you have majority and there are no other killers."
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Role: Terrorist Mastermind (cult). You can recruit townie players into your terror cell, which can communicate at night. Your terrorists can suicide-bomb other players during the day. If you die, all cultists will die. You win when you have majority and there are no other killers.
Abilities: recruit

Special note: You may talk with your buddies at night. Your recruit doesn't happen until the end of the night, so you can't communicate with new recruits until the next night. If you use a quicktopic, I'd appreciate it if you share the URL with me, but be aware I'll post it after the game.
Mod notes: Can only recruit town. Can't recruit the Secret Ascetic. If he targets the Green Goo, the recruit succeeds but the mastermind loses his powers and becomes Green Goo. Cultists still die even if the mastermind has been gooed. If the cultist targets the twin, he recruits the twin's buddy. If he targets the buddy, he recruits nobody because the twin is mafia.
When a cultist is recruited, the new cultist recieves the message "LEADER has recruited you into a cult." and the new role PM, including all current cultists. The leader recieves the messages "PLAYER has been recruited into your cult." and "PLAYER has joined your team." Each other cultist recieves the message "PLAYER has joined your team."
If the cult recruiter targets a mafia player or an already recruited player, he recieves the message "Your recruit attempt failed." If the cult recruiter targets the Secret Ascetic, he recieves nothing.
If the cult recruiter dies, the message "PLAYER's followers have committed suicide." is posted, and then all the cultists die.
If a player is recruited and killed in the same night, they die with their old role and team.


Cultist PM:
Role: Suicide Bomber (cult). You can suicide-bomb a player during the day, killing you and your target. You win when you have majority and there are no other killers. Your team is: NAMES
Abilities: (day)suicidebomb
Team members: Wulfy (Terrorist Mastermind), NAME (Suicide Bomber), ...

Mod notes: The suicide bomb happens immediately during the day. The message when a suicide-bomb happens is "PLAYER has suicide-bombed PLAYER!", followed by the bombed player's death, followed by the bomber's death. Daykills reset the vote count.


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